beesha CELI demand their seat back

[Jimbie]

It is simple-there is no Mareexaan seat that has existed since 1950's that belonged to any clan. There was no real "rer Fulaan" clan "seat" until Carta to begin with.

There was just loosely informed local caucusing, not even regional as in it did not even exitend to Marehan elsewhere, which we have since called "Afar Waaxood" and Celi and reer Siyaad Xussein unfortunately were both members of the same one; Waaxda "Ilma Adeero."

Even then , its influence was limited in national politics because national seats were not APPORTIONED according to clan like after 1991.

People sometimes really tend to forget that, even though we are a tribal society and tribe and politics always dissected, the PHENOMENON of DIRECT clan apportionment we call "4.5" is...a new innovation post-Carta.

This is why if Sh Abdulle Maxamuud was one of the Marehan MPs and the Marehan Minister n 1960 as Celi, another election later in the 1968 elections, Shire Warsame Guled, Mahad Dirir, happened to become the MPS while Adan Loow was the Marehan Minister/MP---all 3 rer Dini.

The point is there was no "reer Diini" or specific clan seat in 1960 and no "Celi" or specific clan seat in 1968.

They just happened to be those clans, the more important factor being talent at politics as individual politicians explained their success.

Since the 4.5 apportionment, it so happened the MOST deferentially recognized individual of the Marehan seat extended to "Waaxda Ilmo Adeero" was General Ahmed Warsame.

It was his until death or resignation or abdication.

Just like Gaani, just like all the main important civil war figures.

Tusaale ahaan; GENERAL CUMAR XAAJI MASSALE.

He is reer Guuleed Faarax. When the apportionment started in Carta, the seat occupied by Sagal Isaaq Biixi right now which she inherited from her father, was the seat extended then to "Waaxda Bah Hawiye" (the seats were smaller during Carta).

Including Isaaq Biixi there and many of other clamoring competitiors---immediately any campaigning was suspended because of a "deferential" issue.

Cumar Xaaji was reer Guuleed Faarax Ugaas as in brothers of reer Diini Faarax Ugaas. He had to get a seat and he could only get it from them.

Reer Diini met as a whole, even as Gedo iyo Mudug, and it was decided the Bah Ogaadeen seat had to go to Gaani and the Bah Hawiye seat would be deferred to Cumar Xaaji.

Every single man there starting with Isaaq Biixi and all who were clamoring for competition "Qabaltu" bay reer Diiniyoow dhan hortooda yiraahdeen and Cumar Xaaji was gifted his seat until he retired from politics.

So if Gen Ahmed Warsame was deferred to and long held without a whisper, the seat apportioned to Waaxda Ilmo Adeero, walaalayaalow that was an expression of ixtiraam.

I am not wading into WHY there is this seat or why Celi or rer Siyaad Hussein should or should not share---like I said I understand the controversy of this seat.

But as a note of fact check, according to Marehan dispensation since 4.5 and Carta beginning of official clan apportionment, the seat named "Waaxda Ilma Adeero" exists under that name and has been recognized by Sade as equally representative of both Celi and reer Siyaad Hussein in the national parliament.

This is not an opinion. This fact, even if you disagree that it should continue to exist as a reality.

beenale. You have history of information war against CELI.. This seat has nothing to do with afar waxod, afar waxod wa aqalka sare and galnus VP

Carta Carta, CELI never shared seat with anyone the seat was CELi before Carta and we had the seat after Carta until 2016 when it was stolen in Cadado

Celi never shared seat with RER Siyad Xusien just like you don’t share seat with Reer Ahmed put that in your head. Celi had this seat since Somalia was formed.. Reer siyad xussen was given seat in Carta and it was stolen by Reer dini you know the whole story of the court’s ruling the seat for RER Siyad Xusien but you are still squatting/occupying reer siyad xussien seat

Jimbie, according to SNet Lunatic-in-chief's skewed view of the world, my mere cursory comment here constitutes a cardinal sin of the highest order. Anyway, my unsolicited advice to you is this: given the track record of the lot of characters gathered here iney kuugu goobtaan, you should not be wasting your time and energy, as it is highly unlikely, nay impossible, (try as they may), to find in their heart the decency of approaching the subject under discussion with the least degree of objectivity. Waa dad jiran, ilaahey ha caafiyo. Adigana nin dhalin yaro ah aa u muqataa, and as a consequence susceptible to get carried with matters qabiil in nature, marka hadaa interaction kooda badsatid oo is daba qaban, you are in danger of contracting their malignant cancro.

Ok thanks for the tip.. warku waa caadyahay

[NGM]

Nomad rooble is not in charge of the nomination. Farmajo can do two things neither of which he has done so far because he is corrupt to the core

Number one: give the stolen seat back to CELI. there is no shame in this move it’s xaaq farmajo takes the stolen seat and Returns to us

Number two. Faramjo stays out CELI can get the seat back ourselves this time there is no ina carebey to steal our seat we have farmajo trying to steal Beesha CELI seat in exchange he wants aqalka sare Sare seat to go to CELI that unacceptable

I understand what you are saying and this is one of the main problems that would have been avoided with 1p1v which farmaajo wanted.

but what i see here is what i usually criticize farmaajo for on global somali politics. where farmaajo appeases other clans even if it directly negatively effects his own marehan clan. instead of somali level he is doing intra marehan level.

first look at this, he got rid of carabey and told every other reer diini candidate to get lost, he gave the seat to cali ciid who is celi. then as you claim he is trying to give galmudug mx senate to celi and take it away from his own reer diini reer dalal clan

you can't accuse him of being anti celi when he is sacrificing reer diini seats to appease other MX subclans and in this case CELI.

i am not denying there is great injustice happening and lots of clans are either over represented or underrepresented. but 4.5 wont solve this and you will always have clans or subclans that will complain rightfully or wrongfully.

Farmaajo is related to the Ciid family, they are his inlaws brother, and Farmaajo as you said is not responsible for lower level shit like this, those calaacalin are free to calaacal, and I never really cared one day if anyone dissed Farmaajo, but ultimately this has nothing to do with him, it has more to do with GM President, Kuxigeenkis who is Celi, Ugaaska, Galmudug MPs.

lets see if anyone fires a single shot, they have already called into question the spotless reputation of Caabudwaaq for being stable by making these threats, primitive chimp mode, lets see if anyone dares even do the little doola tus we saw in Balanbale with the Urmidig distric councilors, Caabudwaaq has high security and the dhaqan fully backs the security while not interfering in the politics.

Nothing will happen, when Ciid and Wayeel clashed nothing happened in terms of security, and they were literally days after at the same Janaaza, in Caabudwaaq. Hadal iyo calaacal its just campaigning but threats nope.

[Gubbet]

my mere cursory comment here constitutes a cardinal sin of the highest order

Yes, 100% of your commentary in Gedo Section, is to sow "knots" between Marehan clans and the only "knots" I would be talking about are the ones where Allah (swt) explains the SIXIR used against the Prophet.

100% because I actually did a small, although unscientific, but still entirely randomized audit using a small statistical sample spaced out by 1 year each.

Your MO is clever until a very clear identifiable, observable pattern is being curled in Excel.

There is Sickness I never realized was so desperately attracted to a person sharing Marehan history on this page that seems to have mindlessly supplanted all empty space.

Even the purpose for starting this topic just like your superficial instigation is not about the subject per se


It is about getting 'Voltage's' attention by using instigation of Marehan clans as foil.

And I plan to make it worthwhile read for the many graduate academic programs that will subject their students to reading about it as multidisciplinary case study.

[barbarossa]

^ Speaking of case studies for scholarly purposes, you yourself appear to be amply fit a subject. In you, researchers can look deeper into how the effects of excessive, unbridled hatred, is invariably more injurious to the hater than the hated.

[Dab]

Arta secrewd mx over, we should've gotten at the least 25 mps. Within mx the allocations aren't based on deegans but rather siyaasad. The whole arta shir is one big shit show. The reps should be changed to reflect deegan. If today within mx if the reps were allocated based on deegan here it would go.
Luuq-Reer Hassan
Doolow-Reer Hassan
Beledxaawo-Howrsame than Raadamir
Gabra-Reer Yusuf than Reer Gaarad
Ceelwaaq- Talha than Uurmidig
Bardheere-Talha
Cabuudwaq-Raadamir than Wargadhac
Cadaado- Wargadhac
Dhusomareeb-Raadamir than Uurmidig