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Ghiklo wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:07 am Xawaadle is a delusional clan. They're probably only a plurality at best in Hiiraan but they want a monopoly on the Presidency. When Al-Shabaab goes Hirshabelle will turn to shit as Xawaadle aren't willing to change their unreasonable position.
Wrong information. Some Hawadle want Hiiraan State as a reaction to not preserving the treaties like the capital in exchange for the presidency but the majority r ready for restoring back the Gentleman's Agreement. right now things are going Jowhar to stay the capital and the next president to come from Hiiraan but until then Reer Hiiraan have right to refuse Guudlawe and the current admin as they got the capital too. its not About Abgaal vs Hawadle its Hiiraan vs Middle Shabelle and they r uncomfortable to begin with.


This is the new Mulkiilaha Hirshabelle from Hiiraan who will fix it. our politicians who r looking for the presidency have been in the queue for him all today.
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waxaa la sameeyay Iskaashi Saleebaan iyo Xawaadle in laga sifeeyo Al Shabaab labada dhinac oo ah beelaha u dhaxeeya!

Saleebaanka inay baxda hoosteeda ka bilaabaan ilaa ceelbuur xawaadlana ilaa aadan Yabaal!
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Nomand wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:24 pm
sahal80 wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:13 pm Al Shabaab issue cannot be summarized as something between the dominant clans and the marginalized ones as it seems on the surface.
I referred to this when I talked about the al Shabaab incubator in some regions and I took example for MX in JL(at some point) because they r against Kenya and JL admin. i remember 2013 their reinforcement from Gedo going through al Shabaab controlled area also Barre hiiraale staying in goobweyn next to Al Shabaab and was getting interviewed by them. al Shabaab siyaasad the enemy if my enemy is my friend that why they don't target SL but are able to target djibouti!

and there are Non Daarood marginalized cıans which is why the whole Middle juba is not liberated also JL convoys south of Kismaayo or Raaskombooni were targeted because of Gaaljecel and cawramale due to their beef with Harti.
things are different within every qawmiyad. Gaaljecel in JL are not treated the same in Hiiraan and Jowhar and the Govt in Xamar is Hawiye and Hirshabelle is led by Abgaal now. they dislike Hawadle but no one targets them as clan, no one taking their land so why they will be pro Al shabaab who live on their livestock? its bc they accepted to as a way of life. i have gone to their xaafad in baladweyne in 2017 and there was no single song it looks like taliban. people are so scary in their xaafad to support hirshabelle and guudlaawe that why you only see xl who r against it. their mps when they go to baladweyne cant sleep in their xaafad. during the elections their delegates were hiding their faces and heads

We are talking here about a failed Qawmiyad for example example why the massacres in Xamar?

Hassan Sheikh hails from ceeldheere where al-Shabaab controlled even in his first term he tried to arm them and they sold their weapons to al-Shabaab and was published by them. Murusade had PM Kheyre for 3.5 years why ceelbuur was not liberated? Harti Abgaal except mahaday and Ceelbaraf and there is amisom in both of them who are one degmo the rest are Al shabaab until cadale this is the clan of Sheikh Sharif who had the most weapons under him and under Hassan Sh and the funny this Col saneey Cabdulle the Star of Badbaado qaran clan awbakar gaabane is fully controlled by Al Shabaab. degmada adan yabaal, degmada ruun nirgood this has daauud oo ku dhagan galgaduud up to cadale is Al shabaab

are Abgaal marginalised clan? Abgaal are the luckiest clan they have a wall of sea and Border with HG and Hawadle not pro Al shabaab clans. they have dawlada dhexe they got all the ships donated to the govt they can attack them by sea

lastly im talking about Al Shabaab in gobolada dhexe abd Xamar. Hadii Hawiye dhulkooda ka saaraan ma Joogayaan koonfurta kale. Hawiye waa meesha ay ka helaan lacagta ugu badan maaha kaliya ciidanka oo dabcan gobol kaste u badan dadkiisa so yes Al Shabaab is Hawiye!.
interesting point, however i don't think you can label HG as anti al shabaab when as you say HG is probably the biggest financial contributor to al shabaab and al shabaab controls large sways of HG lands.

however your point on abgaal is correct they have sea on their backs and had 2 presidents yet 90 percent of their lands are controlled by al shabaab and the other 10 percent has basically thousands of ATMIS and majority of SNA stationed. so why do you think abgaal are in this situation?
What are you talking about? Middle shabelle has seven districts.
Jowhar, balcad, Cadale, Warsheikh, Aadan Yabaal, Ruun Nirgood and Mahadaay. Aadan Yabaal and Run Nirgood is under shabab the rest is gov controlled.

In Galmudug Ceeldheer and Harardhere is under shabab controll.
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Walee Somali inkaar baa ku dhacay Inkaar

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Laa Xawla Walaa Quwwata Ilaa Bilaah


This is why I always say at the root Somali understand fear, and xoog. They’re not civilized humans, but animals that need to be tamed.
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Cilada waxa waaye mamul gobeledyadi qaar wa gacan ku rimis oo marki la as aasay wa lagu degdegey ama madax ku sheega Muqdisho jooga ba sida ay ayagu raban isku raaciyey ayagon local people la xiriirina aana u dhaqmin hab dimuqradiyad iyo waxa dadku raali ka yihiin
Teeda kale dadka isku degaanka wa in ay is aaminan oo mamul ka wada dhexeya oo shaqaynaya sidi Puntland lagu dhisay 1998 process dheer iyo heshiis lagu so gunaanaday
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The problem with Somalia is hawiye
I have said about 15 years ago on this forum
Ka wax dilaya wa hawiye ka la dilaya wa hawiye ka is qarxinaya wa hawiye ka la qarxinayo wa hawiye ka dawlada doonaya wa hawiye ka dowlada diidaya wa hawiye ka caasimada somalida kale ka sheegenaya wa hawiye Ka caasimada hawiyaha kale ka sheeganaya wa hawiye unuka leh
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Murax wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:57 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:08 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:14 am Xawadle are one of the few hawiye clans fighting the terrorists, they should be supported. A lot of other Somali clans in the south are not willing to pay the price to fight them.

Just as you can manipulate the lineage system to have a dynamic understanding of your "lineage-group," so too can the extremist parasite 🪱 to find and manipulate the exact point to take advantage and amplify your political grievance or sense of marginalization for their benefit.

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There are Somalis, Westerners, think tanks, etc making 100s of thousands of dollars to articulate what you just did. I am tracking what you are saying 100%. To me it seems unlike other Somali groups AS only use Qabil for very quick strategic missions or campaigns unlike other Somali groups who use it recklessly with zero results . Before masses could even begin revolting under what they see as a AS campain against them, those very same said people end up being the very ‘disenfranchised’ group struggle AS end up championing!

Let’s be very frank. HSM and his hooligans ran under a campaign of ‘Hiiraab, Hiiraab, Hiiraab’. HSM wasted no time in building a hooligan Gov under that premise. The Hawiye subgroups, even sub sub subclans left out of the equation become cannon fodder for providing AS support. Add to that the NISA AS connection under Mahad Salaad, Roobow, etc, and wow.


I 100% do not think it is a fluke certain regions are the brunt of Al Shaydaan offensives. If the illiterate mooryaan HSM was a bit more interested in building a real, inclusive, representative Gov, Al Shaydaan would be more stretched perhaps.
And sadly, no one else besides you understood exactly what that description of Shabaab's strategy manipulating the clan system is.

For example, Marehan is not your lineage-group even to you let alone others.

Marehan is "one" out of many choices for your lineage-group and it is so dynamic, there has probably never been a single day you have had one single "lineage-group" for a full day.

For example, an individual said "his clan" and another clan have formed an alliance between the "clans" in the middle, i e. the Shabaab clans.

He is Samaale, Hawadle, Abdi Yusuf.

As Samaale lineage-group, he is the same as the "Shabaab clans" he identified. He is a Shabaab clansmen according to his discretion.

As Hawadle lineage group, the other clan forming a part of his alliance, are the same as the "Shabaab" clans in between them. So it is his lineage-group vs. all the clans he identified including the alliance member as the "Shabaab clan."

As Abdi Yusuf lineage group, it is possible tomorrow, if not today, he is part of the "Shabaab clans" or forming one of many pockets of different loyalties in the geographic territory he identified.

In this very topic, he has had different lineage-group depending on whom or what he was addressing directly controlling his perspective on a number of different issues (whether for example talking about Darod vs. non-Darod, Hawiye vs Samaale, Hiraab vs Hawiye, Hiiraan clans vs Hirshabelle clans).

If you have multiple lineage-group as aspects of your worldview in just one online discussion topic, why would you imagine "clan" identity is so static and that only you can choose even for your "enemies" their lineage-group.

Murax, in this topic, your lineage-group to Sahal is Darod.

Your lineage-group to a Darod like MrSinister is Marehan.

Your lineage-group to a Marehan like me is Ali Hussein.

If there was another participant from Ali Hussein, your lineage group would be below Ali Hussein.

Just in this topic, Shabaab has 3 choices to manipulate your response and worldview based on the 3 options for your lineage-group at their disposal.

I am afraid Somalis are yet to comprehend just ALL the effects of how flexible they designed their own navigations for resources, including their relationships or identities, responding to the constant threat of nature's environmental inconstancy.

This reality is such even in this very topic, we display this incredible disconnect.

It is the things you most take for granted about being a Somali that are inevitably the strongest tools at your enemy's disposal for strategizing against you.
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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:07 pm The problem with Somalia is hawiye
I have said about 15 years ago on this forum
Ka wax dilaya wa hawiye ka la dilaya wa hawiye ka is qarxinaya wa hawiye ka la qarxinayo wa hawiye ka dawlada doonaya wa hawiye ka dowlada diidaya wa hawiye ka caasimada somalida kale ka sheegenaya wa hawiye Ka caasimada hawiyaha kale ka sheeganaya wa hawiye unuka leh
exactly.


Voltage waxaa fadeexa kuugu filan kunkii thread eed ku laheed Farmaajo waa soo noqonayaa 100% he will win in the first round when Deni and Hassan Sheikh were ahead of him in the first and second rounds and got annihilated in the third round over 100 votes. fulaynimadaada you kept hiding 3 months without even explaining why your adeer Farmaajo lost :pac:

waa kaa gambisanay hadana waa na juqjuqeynee ilaahey amarkii :lol:

Tankale hawadle haduu Samaale yahay iyo hawiye yahay adiga maxaa kaa galey? adiga Daarood ka ohoow afaarahaas qeybi iyo bitterness kaaga meesha kala tag ii abtiri aniga kuma dhihi!

war hawiye waa kuwa OG mulkigii ay ku siin jireen ku wareejitay 10ka Xlana waa kuwii meesha idinka tuurey oo xataa hal mid uma codeyn Farmaajo Al xamdulilah aniga milkiilayaashaan ku jiraa xataa Doodishe qandaraasyada amniga ee wasaaradiisa bixiso aan ka qaadanay oo shirkad amni ayaa Sanbaloolahe hoostiisa ka wadaa wuxuna qaataa $20k mushaar kiisa ka badan oo ah $12k Hirshabellana hada waatan Qoone la hoosgeeyay. Farmaajo CBB Cabdi xirsi fiiri oo guudlaawe ku leh adigaa Farmaajo khiyaanay :pac:
https://fb.watch/fm0gvLdDgE/


Niyahow dad federal iyo FMS aan hada waba ka aheen marabo inaan ku mashquulo we kicked out your Farmaajo "who was controlling baladweyne" as you said before during the elections and your Fahad when your mps got produced in ceelqaalow Kenya and not in Garbaharey ood ku dhaaran jirtey inay ka dhaceyso doorashada :pac:

im glad Murax and Nomad understand my point wich is obvious when i called hawiye madaxa koonfurta. madaxa haduu soo noqdo koonfurta kale waxba ma aha. Odey warsangali daarood aa i dhihi jiray waagii Cabdullahi yuusuf "SL iyo waxaan waxba ma aha hadeey xamar degto waa soo hooban" maxaa umaleynee koonfurta?

Hotelada Xamar dhan lacag al Shabaan siiyaan waxaana iska leh qabiilada waaweyn. ma jiro dhaqaale kasoo gala gaaljecel iyo jareer iyo eelaay marka laga reebo xoolo tacbaan ah oo nolol maalmeedkooda dabari karin

Al Shabaab ugaas Hassan ay tiri dhiib 150k ama waa ku dilaynaa markii uu ka aamusay Hirshabelle iyo Dawladii hore waa diidey. waa ka shirnay wuxuu yiri maya ha iga dhiibina! tii ilaahay baa u timid wuxuuna ku dhuntay Sharaf asagoon is dhiibin. waxa Xamar jooga dhan waa isdhiibeen dekada ay lacag ka qaataan iska daa suuqyada!
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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:07 pm The problem with Somalia is hawiye
I have said about 15 years ago on this forum
Ka wax dilaya wa hawiye ka la dilaya wa hawiye ka is qarxinaya wa hawiye ka la qarxinayo wa hawiye ka dawlada doonaya wa hawiye ka dowlada diidaya wa hawiye ka caasimada somalida kale ka sheegenaya wa hawiye Ka caasimada hawiyaha kale ka sheeganaya wa hawiye unuka leh
Cry me a river! Putland and Somaliland are the reason Somalis are suffering around the world. There the reason Hawiye are literally keeping Somalia on the stone ages because they refuse to dismantle the status quo because it benefits them. I hate hawiye but I hate Isaaq and majertain more because of them keeping the status quo. HAWIYE DONT WANT DOWLAD. But as long as putland and Somaliland keep the status quo hawiye specially Habar Gidir will be Hawiye. The biggest beneficiaries from the 30 year status quo is Isaaq, Majaertain, Habar gidir and abgaal.
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sahal80 wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:54 pm
Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:07 pm The problem with Somalia is hawiye
I have said about 15 years ago on this forum
Ka wax dilaya wa hawiye ka la dilaya wa hawiye ka is qarxinaya wa hawiye ka la qarxinayo wa hawiye ka dawlada doonaya wa hawiye ka dowlada diidaya wa hawiye ka caasimada somalida kale ka sheegenaya wa hawiye Ka caasimada hawiyaha kale ka sheeganaya wa hawiye unuka leh
exactly.


Voltage waxaa fadeexa kuugu filan kunkii thread eed ku laheed Farmaajo waa soo noqonayaa 100% he will win in the first round when Deni and Hassan Sheikh were ahead of him in the first and second rounds and got annihilated in the third round over 100 votes. fulaynimadaada you kept hiding 3 months without even explaining why your adeer Farmaajo lost :pac:

waa kaa gambisanay hadana waa na juqjuqeynee ilaahey amarkii :lol:

Tankale hawadle haduu Samaale yahay iyo hawiye yahay adiga maxaa kaa galey? adiga Daarood ka ohoow afaarahaas qeybi iyo bitterness kaaga meesha kala tag ii abtiri aniga kuma dhihi!

war hawiye waa kuwa OG mulkigii ay ku siin jireen ku wareejitay 10ka Xlana waa kuwii meesha idinka tuurey oo xataa hal mid uma codeyn Farmaajo Al xamdulilah aniga milkiilayaashaan ku jiraa xataa Doodishe qandaraasyada amniga ee wasaaradiisa bixiso aan ka qaadanay oo shirkad amni ayaa Sanbaloolahe hoostiisa ka wadaa wuxuna qaataa $20k mushaar kiisa ka badan oo ah $12k Hirshabellana hada waatan Qoone la hoosgeeyay. Farmaajo CBB Cabdi xirsi fiiri oo guudlaawe ku leh adigaa Farmaajo khiyaanay :pac:
https://fb.watch/fm0gvLdDgE/


Niyahow dad federal iyo FMS aan hada waba ka aheen marabo inaan ku mashquulo we kicked out your Farmaajo "who was controlling baladweyne" as you said before during the elections and your Fahad when your mps got produced in ceelqaalow Kenya and not in Garbaharey ood ku dhaaran jirtey inay ka dhaceyso doorashada :pac:

im glad Murax and Nomad understand my point wich is obvious when i called hawiye madaxa koonfurta. madaxa haduu soo noqdo koonfurta kale waxba ma aha. Odey warsangali daarood aa i dhihi jiray waagii Cabdullahi yuusuf "SL iyo waxaan waxba ma aha hadeey xamar degto waa soo hooban" maxaa umaleynee koonfurta?

Hotelada Xamar dhan lacag al Shabaan siiyaan waxaana iska leh qabiilada waaweyn. ma jiro dhaqaale kasoo gala gaaljecel iyo jareer iyo eelaay marka laga reebo xoolo tacbaan ah oo nolol maalmeedkooda dabari karin

Al Shabaab ugaas Hassan ay tiri dhiib 150k ama waa ku dilaynaa markii uu ka aamusay Hirshabelle iyo Dawladii hore waa diidey. waa ka shirnay wuxuu yiri maya ha iga dhiibina! tii ilaahay baa u timid wuxuuna ku dhuntay Sharaf asagoon is dhiibin. waxa Xamar jooga dhan waa isdhiibeen dekada ay lacag ka qaataan iska daa suuqyada!


Sahal,

I stopped paying attention to the election exactly a year ago. Furthermore, I hardly cared about partaking in discussions here given both that I was traveling in Ethiopia-Somalia for the better part of a year.

Not every single thing I have written here is a read of my true reflections or even started with any serious intention. I can tell you there has been moments where I was only motivated by entertainment.

All this is irrelevant and really personalizing discussion towards me is simply not useful or feasible for engaging me as was part of your habits in the past; although, unfortunately, I encouraged and partook in it in many a moment in the past.

The information I shared is merely a contribution to the topic based on my own thoughts about the subject. Please keep this in mind going forward.
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yes you ran away because of me as you stated and you said more than once you will come back when the election time is up. every thing happened as i said and your 100% farmaajo will come back threads still need to be explained by you. you can say like the CCB he didn't pay money when the fact is he had no Daarood base let alone hawiye except few dozens of eelaay

i don't want to argue with you anymore before you explain why farmaajo lost in the first round in your own thread not here so before that get the fuck out of my face

if you have argument i let you alone until you mention my name and talk about my clans abtirsi bla bla GFOH! :arrow:

He uses the Samaale name for me bc of my Hawiye topic he even puts Samaale between quotation marks look his daandaansi. hawiyihii ay wax ku cuni jireen uu u xiisa. come back after 30 years with another dumaashi :pac:

. hawiye waa ku tuureen orod isaaq wax ka raadso your anti mj thread kkkkk
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sahal80 wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:18 pm yes you ran away because of me as you stated and you said more than once you will come back when the election time is up. every thing happened as i said and your 100% farmaajo will come back threads still need to be explained by you. you can say like the CCB he didn't pay money when the fact is he had no Daarood base let alone hawiye except few dozens of eelaay

i don't want to argue with you anymore before you explain why farmaajo lost in the first round in your own thread not here so before that get the fuck out of my face

if you have argument i let you alone until you mention my name and talk about my clans abtirsi bla bla GFOH! :arrow:
Sir, going forward, please disabuse me of your engagement if you believe yourself so entitled to my contribution you treat yourself with such indignity.

Your relationship to my online presence in this board is neither healthy nor constructive.

I bid you a good day.
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Isseayaanle wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:01 pm
Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:07 pm The problem with Somalia is hawiye
I have said about 15 years ago on this forum
Ka wax dilaya wa hawiye ka la dilaya wa hawiye ka is qarxinaya wa hawiye ka la qarxinayo wa hawiye ka dawlada doonaya wa hawiye ka dowlada diidaya wa hawiye ka caasimada somalida kale ka sheegenaya wa hawiye Ka caasimada hawiyaha kale ka sheeganaya wa hawiye unuka leh
Cry me a river! Putland and Somaliland are the reason Somalis are suffering around the world. There the reason Hawiye are literally keeping Somalia on the stone ages because they refuse to dismantle the status quo because it benefits them. I hate hawiye but I hate Isaaq and majertain more because of them keeping the status quo. HAWIYE DONT WANT DOWLAD. But as long as putland and Somaliland keep the status quo hawiye specially Habar Gidir will be Hawiye. The biggest beneficiaries from the 30 year status quo is Isaaq, Majaertain, Habar gidir and abgaal.

It’s a collective things no one is to blame exclusevly not isaaq not hawiye or darood every one on their own way respectfully are stake holders but if we can’t agree why not just all go our separate ways

But in a sense what Sahal is saying is true and I concur
Because shabaab operates in hawiye land it is hawiye land because there is a vaccuum and because there are segments of hawiye who support shabaab for what ever reasons that’s another discussion whether is ideological islamism or they oppose the establishment of the tfg the same way u have hawiye on the dowlad side throat oppose each other and oppose shabaab
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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:46 pm
Isseayaanle wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:01 pm
Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:07 pm The problem with Somalia is hawiye
I have said about 15 years ago on this forum
Ka wax dilaya wa hawiye ka la dilaya wa hawiye ka is qarxinaya wa hawiye ka la qarxinayo wa hawiye ka dawlada doonaya wa hawiye ka dowlada diidaya wa hawiye ka caasimada somalida kale ka sheegenaya wa hawiye Ka caasimada hawiyaha kale ka sheeganaya wa hawiye unuka leh
Cry me a river! Putland and Somaliland are the reason Somalis are suffering around the world. There the reason Hawiye are literally keeping Somalia on the stone ages because they refuse to dismantle the status quo because it benefits them. I hate hawiye but I hate Isaaq and majertain more because of them keeping the status quo. HAWIYE DONT WANT DOWLAD. But as long as putland and Somaliland keep the status quo hawiye specially Habar Gidir will be Hawiye. The biggest beneficiaries from the 30 year status quo is Isaaq, Majaertain, Habar gidir and abgaal.

It’s a collective things no one is to blame exclusevly not isaaq not hawiye or darood every one on their own way respectfully are stake holders but if we can’t agree why not just all go our separate ways

But in a sense what Sahal is saying is true and I concur
Because shabaab operates in hawiye land it is hawiye land because there is a vaccuum and because there are segments of hawiye who support shabaab for what ever reasons that’s another discussion whether is ideological islamism or they oppose the establishment of the tfg the same way u have hawiye on the dowlad side throat oppose each other and oppose shabaab
it doesn't mean hawiye support Al shaab because they have dawlad they pay both for the dawlad and Al shabaab. The real factor is fear what Al Shabaab doing in Hiiraan is to plant fear in people's hearts. Hawiye have to choose between Dawlada iyo Al Shabaab they r with Al Shabaab now. businessmen waxay dhahan maxaa iga galay aniga hantideydaa ii daran. i have seen alot of reer Hiiraan diaspora from Xamar who sold their business and came back to london bc of Al shabaab. waa gubeynaa mise intaasaa na siinee? hadeey hawiye maalqabeeno ciidanka deegaanada dhisaan wallahi billahi Al shabaab waa la weyn bilo gudahood. koonfurta waa afarjeeblayaal dhaqankooda he doesn't care except himself. ان الله لا يغير ما بقوم حتى يغيروا ما بانفسهم

ilaahay qawm ma badalo ilaa ay naftooda badalaan.


Gadafi 40 sano shib aa laga ahaa cabsi laakin biluu ku dhacay. waxaa jira carabta magaalooyin jabiyay cabsida sida darca Syria waa dad badaw ah oo reer guuraa ah oo ka karaamo fiican kuwa dimishiq iyo xalab. Sheikhooda tribal leader ayaa ciqaalkiisa dhulka ku tuuray markii caruur darbiga iskuulka ku qortey جاء دورك يا بشار adaa ku xiga qadafi iyo mubarak bashaarow la dilay. qabiilkii dhan aa kacay ciqaalka dhulka ku dhacay dartiis.

xataa mediaha hawiye mid dhihi kara argagaxisada ma jiro look Goobjoog they use dagaal yahanada al shabaab


Aniga markaan dhoho madaxweynaha hawiye waa inuu yahay igama ah qabyaalad waxaan rabaa in ay dawlada Al shabaab ka doortaan. hada Al shabaab waxay noo xanuu jinaysaa waayoo daaladaa hawiye ah waa حرب استباقية preemptive War

hadii dawladaan ay guulo ka keenta magaalooyinka ay heestaan waa loo sabri karaa weerarada Al shabaab ee bahalnimada xataa ka baxsan.
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Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!

Post by Isseayaanle »

Hawiye support anything that has death and destruction and will do anything to dismantle any sense of law and order. But the worst of all is ISSAQ and MAJERTAIN. They have been keeping the status quo which is the reason we have many presidents and I’d they put their foot down the capital and AID would’ve moved and they can kill themselves. Also, Sahal is in a tough place because he sees how HAG true nature is and his hometown is buring so he tries to deflect from the situation by blaming others or saying “HAWIYE, HAWIYE, HAWIYE BROTHERHOID”. Sahal is exactly the type of person who would’ve supported the slave trade even he was in West Africa at that time. Disgusting hypocrite. May ALLAHSWT give you the hate and destruction you have for other Somalis.
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