HSM admin is destroying federalism in Somalia and Somalia is back to transitional stage

[OwQariib]

Deni will be called to Xamar for a photo opp. HSM and Damul Jadiid will say all is well for talks and noise is cancelled for 6 months. These will be carried out under the disguise of negotiations, the focus is the eradication of terrorism i don't think the constitution can anywhere near finished before then.

[GuleedWarsame]

[Ghiklo]

What is the Asxaan Deni wants from HSM? Wasn't he doing dirty campaign to maneuver a Daarod election final. Deni vs Farmaajo. And get HAG backing? There's no need to cry now.

Puntland and MJ are Cadow. They do awrkacsi for dhulos but have no intention to help their fellow harti brethrens. Waa uun afka.

The reason they are angry at HSM now is because they want PM. Oo Ogaden so walaalkiina maha who backed you all these years?

MJs are sneaky as hell nobody trust you guys. Xaasid ma aflaxo aan maqli jiray.

Give the armchair psychoanalysis a rest. Dhulos have never liked MJs. You have no idea what you're talking about. Mogadishu has shown no interest in investing in PL's local infrastructure and economy. How can you ask for something from someone without giving anything in return?

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Here's Captain Ayuub spilling the beans

[Isseayaanle]

As for the topic. Somaliland was first puntland is second and I see once jubbaland gets a xalal maamul they too will leave. Hutus can't have their cake and eat it too. Every darod president they fight against.

Hutus can't have both the presidency and the capital.

Nomand seriously? We’ve been with this before? Hutus will do whatever xalane wants and keep Amisom in xamar forever. They will eat the aid meant for Somalis and no one it’s going to protest them because first they have the capital and their clan supports them. And second Amisom will protect them. This isn’t farmaajo who is afraid of Shacabka from Awdal to kismayo.

[Gubbet]

I don't see eye to eye to MX but wallahi they are more pf an advocate of Darodism than MJs.

It is not even "Darod" although everytime we are in power, Darood from Las Qoray to Buuhoodle to Goldogob to Dhooblay somehow tend to see themselves represented and with real ownership stakes. When Garowe was tied at the hip with "Madasha/HAG"---do you think Deni them ever thought it is not just "Marehan" you were targeting. It is not even just "Marehan" that is out of power. It is the Warsangeli kids saw themselves represented in national power with Jamal bringing real piece of the national pie to which they are not even considered by HAG. It was the Dhulbahante kid in Buuhoodle celebrating the ribbon cutting to road built which only was fairly directed to them for the first time development, etc.

Even during SSDF, Siad Barre went after them like a family member he had a fight with to extens them a blanket amnesty that to which he kept word. They weren't tricked or fleeced, and as soon as they came in they were disproportionately ministers and mayors of Mogadishu.

Look at the Farmajo that was demonized with the most dishonest lie ever said about recent Somali politics namely that he "withheld" aid money which is not only untrue but as we found out after last election he even handsomely and disproportionately employed them in the civil service including a Benadir mayorship.

A Majerten national leader given the experience of just the last 15 years since TFG not only would never even think of such goodwill towards Marehan as part of his constituency but would have never implicate the support or pride those boys in Buuhoodle and Badhan felt desiring to express towards Farmajo.

And the most damning of all--Majerten dispossessed my entire extended kin of our heritage in southern Shilabo, actively supporting our displacement, they used government largesse under Abdirashid government to disposses Layl Kase the wells they shared in Gaalkacyo corralling them in Goldogob, and most recently permanently (in my estimation) ended any hopes of Dhulbahante reunification with Puntland after building baraago in Sool the most grievous expression of territorial aggression---and yet in 1991 all 3 of us came to their aid when they were threatened in Gaalkacyo and we would absolutely do so right now as well.

Which brings me back to what I have intellectually observed about Majerten, it's not that they are more selfish or any of these subjective assumptions---

---it is reall all because Majerten is fundamentally "reactionary."

Reactionarism is a state of continuing, low-life, dull, but chronic state of stressed exigency.

When we go into flight or fight, our cortisol or stress hormones spike and the body is tense and wired. We have to come off it or it would be debilitating.

Well imagine a low-level, but chronic stress which is not so in your face you have no way of escaping there is a problem but which can never leave to bring your cortisol down to normal? That's premature death if not a compromised immune system leaving you vulnerable to frequent sickness.

Majerten national politics is "reactionary."

It is not based on what they "want," it is grounded in, reinforced, and made imprisoned by what they are "against" never what they are "for."

Mother Theresa was asked in an interview "are you anti-war?"

Her reply was " I am FOR peace."

Waa yaab, Gaal iyo Muslim, special human beings are special for a reason.

What's the difference between anti-war and pro-peace? Substantively there is no difference. It is a secure, peaceful world devoid of conflict.

But Mother Theresa's mentality was based on what she WANTED, not what she was AGAINST.

When you are led by being FOR something, it is positive mentality---it is optimism, hope, it is proactive.

You build even complicated relationships.

When you are led by being AGAINST something, it is negative mentality---it is pessimism, angst, it is reactionary.

You destroy even natural relationships.

[MrSinister]

Gubbet

You have serious cugdad issues with majerteen. Get some help. I can count all of the grievances majerteen have against marexaan, but what will it serve. That’s the difference between majerteen and marexaan, you are always stuck in the past while mj’s move with the times.

Majerteen or Puntland doesn’t need friends, waa dowlad on its own. PL has ports, army, institutions. The only thing it asks of the federal government is for it to respect the constitution and power sharing agreement. Unlike you, PL doesn’t rely on Mogadishu. The Hutus are your lifeline. Take your envy somewhere else.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

“Ninna madax-salaax iyo
Kama yeelo seetada
Sasabada ma qaayibo
Sirta waxaan iraahdaa
Saab aan biyaha cellin
SOOMAALI BAAN AHAY!”— Abwaan Yam Yam

[Gubbet]

Gubbet

You have serious cugdad issues with majerteen. Get some help. I can count all of the grievances majerteen have against marexaan, but what will it serve. That’s the difference between majerteen and marexaan, you are always stuck in the past while mj’s move with the times.

Majerteen or Puntland doesn’t need friends, waa dowlad on its own. PL has ports, army, institutions. The only thing it asks of the federal government is for it to respect the constitution and power sharing agreement. Unlike you, PL doesn’t rely on Mogadishu. The Hutus are your lifeline. Take your envy somewhere else.

No, I don't. I have never really had cuqdad towards Majerten and I actively challenged and contextualized any emotional or psycho-emotional residual negative imparting.

I don't see Majerten as a foe--even in Kismaayo I don't see a vision of it that would please me more than any Majerten having the same rights and equality even political rights that I would want for Marehan.

Majerten and we do not have land disputes, grazing disputes, even mildly relevant substantive land disputes. We are not relevant to your equity in Puntland federal leadership and outside the novelty imposition in Jubbaland federal leadership i attributed to reactionarily being "against" Marehan, you are not relevant to our equity in Jubbaland federal leadership. Furthermore in the only place we have an actual border, we have an excellent, natural, reinforcing mutually beneficial relationship so much so that border implicates how good our relationship is with a Marehan settlement under the Puntland umbrella as our boundary point.

I don't even see the same Kismaayo jn which an Ogaden has any less right, freedom, or opportunity to anything a Marehan has and Ogaden, along with Habar Gidir, is the most prominent antagonist in my most substantive land, equity, and political disputes as Marehan both in our central lands and southern lands.

What I did is express my observation derived with intention purely implicated in intellectual curiosity. Perhaps it is biased and maybe reflects a weakness in my attempt to have been based un objectivity, but there is no malice or even negative intention.

I thought Majerten national politics displayed a philosophical vulnerability which expressed irrationality to my untrained eyes.

I engaged that question and described my finding of "reactionarism" as a uniting thread linking everything together.

[MrSinister]

Gubbet

Ninyahow you and I both know your bullshit psycho analysis of a whole clan is from a place of envy, especially when it has no relevance to the topic at hand. You wish your clan could have the organization, unity to say no to the FGS and go their own way.

Let me assure you PL and majerteen will continue to do what is in the best interest of its citizens no matter who is in Mogadishu. If that hurts your feelings, that is your problem.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Gubet there is no need for you..to fall for Abkoow’s cheap jambal..xitaa Hartigi bu isku diriya..

Y’all can’t hate on hsm’s hawiye first policy…..Somali wada heshiis ah ..maxaa ka dambayey

[Gubbet]

Gubbet

Ninyahow you and I both know your bullshit psycho analysis of a whole clan is from a place of envy, especially when it has no relevance to the topic at hand. You wish your clan could have the organization, unity to say no to the FGS and go their own way.

Let me assure you PL and majerteen will continue to do what is in the best interest of its citizens no matter who is in Mogadishu. If that hurts your feelings, that is your problem.

Your response leaves me uninterested in validating. Mr Sinister regardless of it's value to you, I am disappointed in the display of such profound irreproachability. It's a level of freshness much beneath you

Smile,

I am immune to jambals

[BestP]

Even you don't believe what you are saying. Now explain to me what HSM has done worse than Farmaajo to Somalia to declare that PL cut the relations with SFG?

I remember during NN Deni held a speech saying he was scared for his life and even then xiriirka una gooynin dowladda. Marka what changed?

Let’s be honest bro. Somalia waa qabil power sharing, nothing else. PL had political differences with farmajo, but at the end wuxu aha nin Darod and that’s how the shacab saw him. Farmajo also wasn’t using government for some darod agenda. Majority of his supporter were very diverse.

Hassan sheikh wants a hawiye government, he wants to arm hawiye states under the guise of fighting al shabab. He believes the federal government is for hawiye only and does not have a functioning ministries. He wants to have back door meetings with Somaliland without Puntland. That shit will not fly.

You can’t claim to be a hawiye first government and then cry that others don’t want to have anything to do with you.

Wadanka waa la isla leeyahay ama waa la iska leeyahay

Sxb with all due respect. This trick of yours is not working. First of all HSM aint " arming" hawiye. Gorgor, Danab and SNA are all part of it with the aid of macawisley who where armed already. Phase 1 is finished and now we are about to kick of Phase 2 General biixi just arrived in GM.

The forcee trained in Eritrea will be used in phase 3 in jubbaland and KG. You are cadow to umadda Somaliyeed who don't want reer southern Somalia to liberate itself from Shabab.

Secondly stop this awrkacsi of SSC. You don't give a fuck about them and u want to use those poor peoples struggle to negotiate for PM.

Original Dervish is not a fool and knows who his friend and enemies are

You talk about darodism when in fact you are the cadow of Daarods. You sideline everyone except the 3 mohamud Saleeban. You can't even support your fellow Kablalax PM who is actually a decent humanbeing amd god fearing.

I don't see eye to eye to MX but wallahi they are more pf an advocate of Darodism than MJs.

Will Raahwayn and Darod entertain any attempt of preplanned Hawiye expansionism in KGS and Jubaland under the guise of fighting Alshabab?

Will HSM's hawiye-first regime be able to successfully eridicate Shabab in Banadir,Galnus and Hirshabelle?


Believe it or not, HSM clan regime is doomed to fail in an epic scale.

[theyuusuf143]

These dhabayaco secessionists are more threat to Somalia than alshabaab. Somali peaple should support us against them.

[theyuusuf143]

What is the Asxaan Deni wants from HSM? Wasn't he doing dirty campaign to maneuver a Daarod election final. Deni vs Farmaajo. And get HAG backing? There's no need to cry now.

Puntland and MJ are Cadow. They do awrkacsi for dhulos but have no intention to help their fellow harti brethrens. Waa uun afka.

The reason they are angry at HSM now is because they want PM. Oo Ogaden so walaalkiina maha who backed you all these years?

MJs are sneaky as hell nobody trust you guys. Xaasid ma aflaxo aan maqli jiray.