HSM policy on Gedo & Jubbaland have changed overnight given recent developments.

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Re: HSM policy on Gedo & Jubbaland have changed overnight given recent developments.

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Murax wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:46 pm
Gubbet wrote: [quote=MrSinister post_id=5037164 time=<a href="tel:1673462933">1673462933</a> user_id=161950]
[quote=grandpakhalif post_id=5037163 time=<a href="tel:1673462817">1673462817</a> user_id=154071] but when Majerten works with Hawiye, it always seems to be about stopping something Marehan wants as well.

This statement here caught my eye why? I heard some Oday saying this a while back, that MJ’s enduring national political doctrine is basically at all costs try to keep a MX Gov/Official out of power even if it means you will gain nothing in return. It’s not even competition in terms of they want that same seat it’s anybody but them. So that’s the end game full stop of their relationship with Hawiye. With Mx it’s more mutual interest scenarios.



In politics there’s no permanent friends or enemies. If HSM is not doing anything at the moment adversarial to MX interests why oppose him? Wallahi I’d work with him any day over a Deni.
Interestingly enough I came to that conclusion on my own and Mr Sinister called me "cugdad" ridden. Namely that Puntland exhibits "reactionarism" or that the reason why they are always unsatisfied with the result nationally is maybe because they were acting on what they did NOT want as opposed to what they DID want.

"Well congrats, pork ribs are off the menu, now here, will it be fried worms or minced dog?"

"What the...!"

"I only heard you didn't want pork, is there a problem?"

:Puhlease:
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Re: HSM policy on Gedo & Jubbaland have changed overnight given recent developments.

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Gubbet wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:07 am
Murax wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:46 pm
Gubbet wrote: [quote=MrSinister post_id=5037164 time=<a href="tel:1673462933">1673462933</a> user_id=161950]
[quote=grandpakhalif post_id=5037163 time=<a href="tel:1673462817">1673462817</a> user_id=154071] but when Majerten works with Hawiye, it always seems to be about stopping something Marehan wants as well.

This statement here caught my eye why? I heard some Oday saying this a while back, that MJ’s enduring national political doctrine is basically at all costs try to keep a MX Gov/Official out of power even if it means you will gain nothing in return. It’s not even competition in terms of they want that same seat it’s anybody but them. So that’s the end game full stop of their relationship with Hawiye. With Mx it’s more mutual interest scenarios.



In politics there’s no permanent friends or enemies. If HSM is not doing anything at the moment adversarial to MX interests why oppose him? Wallahi I’d work with him any day over a Deni.
Interestingly enough I came to that conclusion on my own and Mr Sinister called me "cugdad" ridden. Namely that Puntland exhibits "reactionarism" or that the reason why they are always unsatisfied with the result nationally is maybe because they were acting on what they did NOT want as opposed to what they DID want.

"Well congrats, pork ribs are off the menu, now here, will it be fried worms or minced dog?"

"What the...!"

"I only heard you didn't want pork, is there a problem?"

:Puhlease:
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Re: HSM policy on Gedo & Jubbaland have changed overnight given recent developments.

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Sxb ReturnOfMariixmaan,

I can't watch this anymore. Stop talking in tongues and return to normality.
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Re: HSM policy on Gedo & Jubbaland have changed overnight given recent developments.

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Gubbet wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:07 am
Murax wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:46 pm
Gubbet wrote: [quote=MrSinister post_id=5037164 time=<a href="tel:1673462933">1673462933</a> user_id=161950]
[quote=grandpakhalif post_id=5037163 time=<a href="tel:1673462817">1673462817</a> user_id=154071] but.

"Well congrats, pork ribs are off the menu, now here, will it be fried worms or minced dog?"

"What the...!"

"I only heard you didn't want pork, is there a problem?"

:Puhlease:

:dead: :dead:
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Re: HSM policy on Gedo & Jubbaland have changed overnight given recent developments.

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Gubbet wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:30 pm
MrSinister wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:48 pm
grandpakhalif wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:46 pm Breaking News JL Pro Madoobe officials barred from flying to Garbaharray by NISA. It seems like Fartaag work is already bearing fruit :troll:

You’d rather be ruled by HSM than JL admin?
To be honest, when Marehan works with Hawiye, it always seems to be about Marehan achieving something they want, but when Majerten works with Hawiye, it always seems to be about stopping something Marehan wants as well.

So when Marehan enters into alliance or working relationship with Hawiye, Marehan is in charge of his destiny and inevitably he commands the terms of working relationship like for example JVA or Ahlu Sunnah. Those were moments of Hawiye subscribing to something in the "interest" of a Marehan as long as they stood to gain something.

You are represented by the SSDF-USC alliance and Deni-Madasha. You switch places with Marehan-Hawiye dynamic wherein you become the one subscribing to something in the interest of Hawiye as long as you stood to gain something (given history almost always predicated on anti-Marehan reactionarism).

That is why 1991 happens after SSDF-USC and the last 7 months happened after Deni-Madasha.

But when we are in a deal, we preside over the terms of contract and when the contract has reached the end of term, it is amicably and even irrelevantly dissolved amicably.

HSM didn't "rule" Marehan as of 24 hours ago. It was just last week when he as President of Somalia failed to compel a change of administration in GEDO REGION, one of Somalia's 18 regions mind you not 4 or whatever Federal States. He didn't have that authority over Marehan. HSM didn't have the authority to "rule" a Marehan village let alone even a town exemplified by the failure of his NISA head to fly to Dollow.

HSM, as the subject of the topic says, has signalled a "change" in his position. He is the one coming around to subscribe to the Marehan position not the other way.

And quite extraordinarily, in a post showing just how much of a change in support of the Marehan position HSM is exhibiting by carrying out a demand from Gedo Region namely to stop Mogadishu airport from transiting Madoobe officials attempting to travel to Gedo Region, you ask "so would you rather be ruled by HSM than JL Admin."

Are you logical or rational thinking?

FOCK THE JL ADMIN. FOCK THEM. THEY ARE MY #1 PROBLEM. MY FOCKING PROBLEM WITH HSM WAS EVEN GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF US TO TAKE THEIR SIDE.

Is this the twilight zone? I don't get it. What kind of question is that?

Maybe it was a Freudian slip...
You like to create your own fake narrative. Majerteen have been in Somali politics before marexaan was known as a clan. Before 1969, I doubt anyone was aware of Marexaan. SSDF did not have an alliance with USC, they had the same objective. The same way Deni had the same objective as the rest of the opposition. He ran for president himself and was close to winning.

Puntland has veto in Somalia, it is not landlocked poor region like Gedo that has no leadership and is at the mercy of Mogadishu. Puntland could walk away from Somalia and would thrive as it is not being held hostage by mogadisho.

If you want to blame majerteen for your clans weak political position, go ahead, but it won’t get you anywhere.

Good luck with getting kismayo/JL back, but I wouldn’t hold any hope of HSM or any hutu handing it to you. You have to win it by blood.
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