Irir Samaale, meet Ilmo Jaberti; A/rahman Ismail Jaberti (Darod) & Ali Ismail Jaberti (Digil & Mirifle).

[Khalid Ali]

As a habarjeclo I confirm akishe are our brothers .

This includes the Akisho clan of the Oromos, who are scattered in small groups among the Habr Awal Isaaq

Yes both of them . Somali speaking akishe and oromo speaking akishe are both Dir . Even my isaaq habarjeclo Clan is Half Oromo and we are Dir.

Habarjeclo are not half Oromo they are half habasha they have always called xiiis haabr xabusheeed this was hee name since. 900 years now 2023 baad ayeyo identity badashay to fit ur fake Oromo or dir narrative. Abtiirsintu isma badasho

[theyuusuf143]

I don't even consider my self Islam , forget about holy men. I didn't say habar awal land is small I just emphasized the truth that you didn't expand in terms of land or peaple. Either you have to bring more land or more peaple , our income depends on This.

Just because we have an art of state ports doesn't mean progress if we do not control trade corridors all over the horn. To do this you need more peaple in every Somali region. For example Arab sheekh isaxaq invested milk factory in dhagaxle , that factory brings more capital to reinvest some where else . In war time we can survive there . Think about the box .

[theyuusuf143]

This includes the Akisho clan of the Oromos, who are scattered in small groups among the Habr Awal Isaaq

Yes both of them . Somali speaking akishe and oromo speaking akishe are both Dir . Even my isaaq habarjeclo Clan is Half Oromo and we are Dir.

Habarjeclo are not half Oromo they are half habasha they have always called xiiis haabr xabusheeed this was hee name since. 900 years now 2023 baad ayeyo identity badashay to fit ur fake Oromo or dir narrative. Abtiirsintu isma badasho

I have nothing to gain for being xabash. Oromo is the future. In fact our mother can't be xabash because we never had a border with them. Our mother was herari or Oromo. Preferably Oromo. Always think about the present or the future. Not the past.

[mahoka]

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[mahoka]

Ogaden iyo Iidoor Midkee baa bilaa nasab ah ?


Ogaadeen Absame
Jidwaaq Absame
Baalcad Absame
Wayteen Absame


waa afartaa ilma Absame .Rag ku midaysan deegaan iyo abtirsiin labadaba ??



Horta idoor garac haduu san ahayn ayaa dhalay ? yaase la dhashay ?


Iidoorka bilaa haybta ah ee maalin Carab sheegta maalin a Irir iyo Hawiye miyaa rag kale Oromo ku sheegay!

Sacad Muuse soow kala bar ma aha Oromo,gaar ahaan Jaarsa iyo Akiishe

Akisho and jaarso are ogaden and breed with you, they got nothing to do with sacad muse

As for origins, isaaq has all Arabic and Muslim names while darod has Ethiopian and babtu names such as geri koombe kuumbe, darod tribe has huge association with waaq the oromo sky god - jidwaaq, cabudwaaq kkkkkk you were oromo pagans before isaaq forced you to adopt Islam and speak somali language

Hooyadaa siilkeedii baa ogaadena , they are noble Dir clans . Akishe and Jaarso waa la yaqaan waa niman Dir ah , cid nagu qabsan kartaana ma jirto. Sidaad doonaysa inaad u noolaato horta markad ummada ilaahay oo dhan iska faquuqdo. now I understand waxay isaaqa qaar idiinla collooben. inan gumeed yahaw Arab Ku barsuugooda laabtay Ku haystan adna akishe oo aad gebiley wada degtaan baad iska fogaynaysa. These people can Open doors for us in galbeeed. In fact muj maxamed cali first comrades were jaarso. Even the current chairman of SNM veterans (sooyaal) is akishe .

If you are related to oromo and dir, that’s up to you after all you are habar habashi

You should also spread your futo for your cagdheer cousins since you are both xabashi

[mahoka]

This includes the Akisho clan of the Oromos, who are scattered in small groups among the Habr Awal Isaaq

Yes both of them . Somali speaking akishe and oromo speaking akishe are both Dir . Even my isaaq habarjeclo Clan is Half Oromo and we are Dir.

Habarjeclo are not half Oromo they are half habasha they have always called xiiis haabr xabusheeed this was hee name since. 900 years now 2023 baad ayeyo identity badashay to fit ur fake Oromo or dir narrative. Abtiirsintu isma badasho

Ninyahow where are this guy’s tol horta, skywalker cries when I reply to this guy yet won’t stop him from embarrassing hj, cajiib

Let him speak for his reer, they are happy with it ninyahow

[theyuusuf143]

Yes both of them . Somali speaking akishe and oromo speaking akishe are both Dir . Even my isaaq habarjeclo Clan is Half Oromo and we are Dir.

Habarjeclo are not half Oromo they are half habasha they have always called xiiis haabr xabusheeed this was hee name since. 900 years now 2023 baad ayeyo identity badashay to fit ur fake Oromo or dir narrative. Abtiirsintu isma badasho

Ninyahow where are this guy’s tol horta, skywalker cries when I reply to this guy yet won’t stop him from embarrassing hj, cajiib

Let him speak for his reer, they are happy with it ninyahow

From now on I retire for 3 months , you don't have to call my tol . Let's see how Far you go. ( I am 100% serious)

[Khalid Ali]

The yusuuf u don’t need to retire u just need to be factual right from the historical records it was always know that habar xabusheed was an Abyssinian woman. Ask guraysame the habarjeclo guru who even believes that habar xabusheed was related to yakuno Amlak thus. Habarjeclo both trace their lineage from David to Solomon to jacob and on the father side iman hussein and imam Ali . There was no Oromo between Somalis and habesha as Oromo were back then around the Kenyan Ethiopian border near borana so the sheikh had no connection to them these are historical facts . This is not about Qof wax ku taraya but wa taarikh iyo runta if habar zabusheed Was Oromo we would call her habar Oromo but we do not. Runta kanhadalw issaq population is close to five million people
Dad ahaan ma jarin we expanding on all fronts habaryoonis live close to laasqoray waqdariya jibriel abokor live in lughaya zeila all the way to jabuuti close to the affars there are almost 150000 habar awal in jabuuti alone Bussines ahaan we move forward runta ka shaqe

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

So dhowaada ..ilmo Cali Ismacil Jaberti

[Gubbet]

So dhowaada ..ilmo Cali Ismacil Jaberti

Hasoo dhawaadaan walaalahaya, ariirow mey fadaase

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

So dhawow. We have Right Coast business to handle. It’s our dub:

[Gubbet]

Even today, hsm the hawiye has done more for dhulbahante than farmaajo, farmaajo a darod man literally said to a darod woman from lascanood/buhodle to go away cuz he had no answer for her in public on media, hsm has been crying for dhulo freedom since he came to power

You are a dishonest scoundrel Mohoka. You literally brought up this question to me about Dhullo and Farmaajo question and I gave you a factual, evidence based contextualization that 100% clarified for you any misunderstanding about this issue. So you now fully well understand your statement above regarding Farmaajo and SSC question is shameless case of "disinformation."

So why did your leader farmaajo tell the woman from lascanood that he can’t give her an answer?

Stop using the poor dhulo sxb, it’s cruel

Farmajo gave a perfectly legitimate answer which Reer SSC themselves all expressed recognition.

The only people who ever bring that up are the people opposed to SSC because it is manipulation.

Farmajo was President of Somalia, particularly pre-Las Anod development.

The system we agreed to underpinning reestablishment of a recognized Federal Government specifically unempowers him from "compelling" a decision of his own from Villa Somalia.

Somaliland is a complicated issue which persists through every single administration and president we have had since civil war---BECAUSE it is not a decision that can be effectuated by a "single" side.

Neither can Somaliland legitimately separate herself from Somalia regardless of whatever unitary declaration from Hargeisa thus far and neither can Somalia legitimately incorporate it back to Somalia regardless of whatever Mogadishu says or does.

So Somaliland has its own "representation" in Hargeisa unrecognized by Somalia and Somalia has its own "Somaliland representation" (of all clans Isaaq, Gudabiirsi, Harti, even Ciise) in Mogadishu unrecognized by Somaliland.

This is an issue that can only be resolved "mutually" by all accounts apparent now to everyone including both sides given their participation in multiple attempts at "talks" thus far.

This is further complicated by Federalism as the system of government which is what a President of Somalia presides over (his basic authority) & the presence of Puntland as a constituent and even founding federal member state "claiming" and even having "administered" Laas Caanood during Abdullahi Yusuf.

And even more, SSC elders and community have been implicated in both substantiations of Somaliland and Puntland claims over Las Caanood. For example, the highest traditional Garadship particpation in Shirka Boorama that built Somaliland as well the Garowe Conference that built Puntland.

Similarly the aspirations of SSC during Farmaajo were publicly still held imprisoned by monopolization of representation by political entities such as Xaabsade and Xaglatoosiye for example who had a history of switching sides.

All of this is SSC before "Las Anod" development.

That was the "fall of Berlin wall" moment which is what makes SSC a pre and post-Las Anod uprising.

Farmajo's answer was the answer of someone who cared but had no power of authority to do what was beyond his control.

Someone who cares is not gimmicky, cheap, and fake with you. People who care are real and honest with each other.

Farmajo's concern and care for SSC can substantively be judged from the fact it was the first time Federal appropriation to SSC was not wired through Garowe or even expressed in deference to Hargeisa. The public works like roads rehabilitated and social services established from Buuhoodle to Badhan speak for themselves.

Finally, the young woman who asked the question herself publicly stated his answer satisfied her and even sobered her to the reality facing SSC which said the "trigger" for a change of status for SSC could only really be pulled by Rer SSC first.

The womb must trigger "labor" before birth.

They pulled that trigger in January of 2023.

It was called Las Anod uprising.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6#p5037114

[mahoka]

Even today, hsm the hawiye has done more for dhulbahante than farmaajo, farmaajo a darod man literally said to a darod woman from lascanood/buhodle to go away cuz he had no answer for her in public on media, hsm has been crying for dhulo freedom since he came to power

You are a dishonest scoundrel Mohoka. You literally brought up this question to me about Dhullo and Farmaajo question and I gave you a factual, evidence based contextualization that 100% clarified for you any misunderstanding about this issue. So you now fully well understand your statement above regarding Farmaajo and SSC question is shameless case of "disinformation."

So why did your leader farmaajo tell the woman from lascanood that he can’t give her an answer?

Stop using the poor dhulo sxb, it’s cruel

Farmajo gave a perfectly legitimate answer which Reer SSC themselves all expressed recognition.

The only people who ever bring that up are the people opposed to SSC because it is manipulation.

Farmajo was President of Somalia, particularly pre-Las Anod development.

The system we agreed to underpinning reestablishment of a recognized Federal Government specifically unempowers him from "compelling" a decision of his own from Villa Somalia.

Somaliland is a complicated issue which persists through every single administration and president we have had since civil war---BECAUSE it is not a decision that can be effectuated by a "single" side.

Neither can Somaliland legitimately separate herself from Somalia regardless of whatever unitary declaration from Hargeisa thus far and neither can Somalia legitimately incorporate it back to Somalia regardless of whatever Mogadishu says or does.

So Somaliland has its own "representation" in Hargeisa unrecognized by Somalia and Somalia has its own "Somaliland representation" (of all clans Isaaq, Gudabiirsi, Harti, even Ciise) in Mogadishu unrecognized by Somaliland.

This is an issue that can only be resolved "mutually" by all accounts apparent now to everyone including both sides given their participation in multiple attempts at "talks" thus far.

This is further complicated by Federalism as the system of government which is what a President of Somalia presides over (his basic authority) & the presence of Puntland as a constituent and even founding federal member state "claiming" and even having "administered" Laas Caanood during Abdullahi Yusuf.

And even more, SSC elders and community have been implicated in both substantiations of Somaliland and Puntland claims over Las Caanood. For example, the highest traditional Garadship particpation in Shirka Boorama that built Somaliland as well the Garowe Conference that built Puntland.

Similarly the aspirations of SSC during Farmaajo were publicly still held imprisoned by monopolization of representation by political entities such as Xaabsade and Xaglatoosiye for example who had a history of switching sides.

All of this is SSC before "Las Anod" development.

That was the "fall of Berlin wall" moment which is what makes SSC a pre and post-Las Anod uprising.

Farmajo's answer was the answer of someone who cared but had no power of authority to do what was beyond his control.

Someone who cares is not gimmicky, cheap, and fake with you. People who care are real and honest with each other.

Farmajo's concern and care for SSC can substantively be judged from the fact it was the first time Federal appropriation to SSC was not wired through Garowe or even expressed in deference to Hargeisa. The public works like roads rehabilitated and social services established from Buuhoodle to Badhan speak for themselves.

Finally, the young woman who asked the question herself publicly stated his answer satisfied her and even sobered her to the reality facing SSC which said the "trigger" for a change of status for SSC could only really be pulled by Rer SSC first.

The womb must trigger "labor" before birth.

They pulled that trigger in January of 2023.

It was called Las Anod uprising.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6#p5037114

Gubbet you are a very dishonest person, see how you don’t comment on all my points about hawiye/darod alliance, can you please go thru my comment and point out how I am wrong, I gave you all verifiable factual evidence of why hawiye and darod have a deep alliance that goes back all the way to when Italy colonised the area. You started this thread to try and misinform people about hawiye isaaq alliance called irir when you and I both know the real irir is hawiye and darod

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

No Compton you banned. You gonna ride for them you gonna die for them. You LA to me. The love I showed you earlier is dead. Like DAMN bro, why did we fuck with him? You pro him. You know what it is. I’m with my vagabonds and Pratus you Protestant like him. We Muslim and Christian Cs