I think 'most' significant development for Somalia in the next 50 years is MX & MJ elite socio-politico contract in work

[Gubbet]

Ibrahim Dheere (Reer Ugaas Shermaarke), the cultural/protocol advisor to Ugas Mohamed Keyse and part of his envoy says this from Boosaaso, being hosted for lunch by one of Boosaaso'd biggest tycoons;

[Nomand]

MJ is about to submit to ulusow soon. Talk about latching yourself to a dying horse.

[Nomand]

People who for the last 50 years have been siding with anyone but marehan. Fueling everyone of your conflict. Created badbaado qaran against you.

Armed dir against you armed hg against you. Have been politically supporting madoobe to spite you. Somehow you want to help them?

No wonder mx are in the gutter.

MJ elites chose HSM - a guy who brought war to Galkayo - over Farmajo. MJ elites prefer HSM who spilled MJ blood over Farmajo. Gubbet is talking rubbish.

MJ's where I live where celebrating like they won the world cup when farmaajo lost and culusow win. Now I am enjoying seeing how culusow will destroy puntland.

[Gubbet]

Nomand, walaaloow is there anyone in Somali politics you do not wish gloom except for your bionic bunny Ahmed Madoobe.

Ahmed Madoobe is like Somaliland in Laascaanood. Inta uu joogahayo ha joogo---dabbadiis it is like sand between the hour glass.

Waxba ha colaadsan waxa socda. It is longer, more relevant, and really more importantly concerns beyond Culusoow and Madoobe and the moment.

Kismaayo will become the Darod capital of the world and it will be in a Marehan led Jubbaland and yes MJ will be fine with it just like we are with Boosaaso. They will even be Mayors of Kismaayo just as us. Waxaan macna maleh iyo culusoow iyo KDF iyo Madoobe iyo dhalinyaradaan gafuurka wada taagayo ee Somalispot iyo waxaan.

Wassalam

[theyuusuf143]

Nomand, walaaloow is there anyone in Somali politics you do not wish gloom except for your bionic bunny Ahmed Madoobe.

Ahmed Madoobe is like Somaliland in Laascaanood. Inta uu joogahayo ha joogo---dabbadiis it is like sand between the hour glass.

Waxba ha colaadsan waxa socda. It is longer, more relevant, and really more importantly concerns beyond Culusoow and Madoobe and the moment.

Kismaayo will become the Darod capital of the world and it will be in a Marehan led Jubbaland and yes MJ will be fine with it just like we are with Boosaaso. They will even be Mayors of Kismaayo just as us. Waxaan macna maleh iyo culusoow iyo KDF iyo Madoobe iyo dhalinyaradaan gafuurka wada taagayo ee Somalispot iyo waxaan.

Wassalam

But they are already the mayor. How can you make it daarood capital when you are planing to kick out the daarods in charge today. It's the same cycle , if you manage to kick out the cagdheers you will be forced to karbaash the harti as well. Otherwise they too are capable to kick you out. Can't the dooros agree common principles. Why do you have to fight over the control of that city.

[Nomand]

Nomand, walaaloow is there anyone in Somali politics you do not wish gloom except for your bionic bunny Ahmed Madoobe.

Ahmed Madoobe is like Somaliland in Laascaanood. Inta uu joogahayo ha joogo---dabbadiis it is like sand between the hour glass.

Waxba ha colaadsan waxa socda. It is longer, more relevant, and really more importantly concerns beyond Culusoow and Madoobe and the moment.

Kismaayo will become the Darod capital of the world and it will be in a Marehan led Jubbaland and yes MJ will be fine with it just like we are with Boosaaso. They will even be Mayors of Kismaayo just as us. Waxaan macna maleh iyo culusoow iyo KDF iyo Madoobe iyo dhalinyaradaan gafuurka wada taagayo ee Somalispot iyo waxaan.

Wassalam

But they are already the mayor. How can you make it daarood capital when you are planing to kick out the daarods in charge today. It's the same cycle , if you manage to kick out the cagdheers you will be forced to karbaash the harti as well. Otherwise they too are capable to kick you out. Can't the dooros agree common principles. Why do you have to fight over the control of that city.

50 percent of kismaayo is mx. MJ at most are 5 percent. They are nothing.

If blackie is kicked out mayor will be marehan.

[Nomand]

Nomand, walaaloow is there anyone in Somali politics you do not wish gloom except for your bionic bunny Ahmed Madoobe.

Ahmed Madoobe is like Somaliland in Laascaanood. Inta uu joogahayo ha joogo---dabbadiis it is like sand between the hour glass.

Waxba ha colaadsan waxa socda. It is longer, more relevant, and really more importantly concerns beyond Culusoow and Madoobe and the moment.

Kismaayo will become the Darod capital of the world and it will be in a Marehan led Jubbaland and yes MJ will be fine with it just like we are with Boosaaso. They will even be Mayors of Kismaayo just as us. Waxaan macna maleh iyo culusoow iyo KDF iyo Madoobe iyo dhalinyaradaan gafuurka wada taagayo ee Somalispot iyo waxaan.

Wassalam

Sxb you live in a alternative reality. Culusow won the war. He will borrow billions and make himself and his clan fortified. Instead of working with ulusow- use him to gain leverage. You latched your camel with a dying horse (puntland) who will feed you to the wolves the first opportunity they get.

What exactly does mx gain from this darod bullshit you are peddling?

Smartest move mx can do is to work with ulusow. Becauese right now he will do everything in his power to keep ogaden as head of jubbaland. Ogadeen are playing a great game, they turned kenya and eithiopia against you, convinced them that marehan is against their interests and now the SFG against you.

[eliteSomali]

Why do Marehan keep making threats for 15 years? They couldn't even elect their MPs in Gedo, the only clan not to do so in Somalia. The truth is Ogaden has finished off Marehan, and we are coming for MJS next. Darods have no idea what's coming their way.

If kismayo is yours, come get it, and drop the Kenya excuse. Ogaden were at war with an even stronger government in Ethiopia from 1949 to 2018, that's 70 years!

If you aren't going to do this, stop the whining and the calacal all over social media, it's really embarrassing.

I don't know who even wants to hear this, but Marehan can bring Majerteen and even other darods, Kismayo is gone gone, it's unlikely to be ruled by anyone who isn't OG.

The only way any Darod clan can take on OG anytime soon if Ogaden get dragged into another war with Ethiopia, and I know enough to say that isn't happening.

These are the facts but I doubt the minds of delusional folks even entertain facts and realities.

[Gubbet]

Nomand, walaaloow is there anyone in Somali politics you do not wish gloom except for your bionic bunny Ahmed Madoobe.

Ahmed Madoobe is like Somaliland in Laascaanood. Inta uu joogahayo ha joogo---dabbadiis it is like sand between the hour glass.

Waxba ha colaadsan waxa socda. It is longer, more relevant, and really more importantly concerns beyond Culusoow and Madoobe and the moment.

Kismaayo will become the Darod capital of the world and it will be in a Marehan led Jubbaland and yes MJ will be fine with it just like we are with Boosaaso. They will even be Mayors of Kismaayo just as us. Waxaan macna maleh iyo culusoow iyo KDF iyo Madoobe iyo dhalinyaradaan gafuurka wada taagayo ee Somalispot iyo waxaan.

Wassalam

Sxb you live in a alternative reality. Culusow won the war. He will borrow billions and make himself and his clan fortified. Instead of working with ulusow- use him to gain leverage. You latched your camel with a dying horse (puntland) who will feed you to the wolves the first opportunity they get.

What exactly does mx gain from this darod bullshit you are peddling?

Smartest move mx can do is to work with ulusow. Becauese right now he will do everything in his power to keep ogaden as head of jubbaland. Ogadeen are playing a great game, they turned kenya and eithiopia against you, convinced them that marehan is against their interests and now the SFG against you.

Yaahuu. Nona

[Gubbet]

Why do Marehan keep making threats for 15 years? They couldn't even elect their MPs in Gedo, the only clan not to do so in Somalia. The truth is Ogaden has finished off Marehan, and we are coming for MJS next. Darods have no idea what's coming their way.

If kismayo is yours, come get it, and drop the Kenya excuse. Ogaden were at war with an even stronger government in Ethiopia from 1949 to 2018, that's 70 years!

If you aren't going to do this, stop the whining and the calacal all over social media, it's really embarrassing.

I don't know who even wants to hear this, but Marehan can bring Majerteen and even other darods, Kismayo is gone gone, it's unlikely to be ruled by anyone who isn't OG.

The only way any Darod clan can take on OG anytime soon if Ogaden get dragged into another war with Ethiopia, and I know enough to say that isn't happening.

These are the facts but I doubt the minds of delusional folks even entertain facts and realities.

[Gubbet]

Nomand, walaaloow is there anyone in Somali politics you do not wish gloom except for your bionic bunny Ahmed Madoobe.

Ahmed Madoobe is like Somaliland in Laascaanood. Inta uu joogahayo ha joogo---dabbadiis it is like sand between the hour glass.

Waxba ha colaadsan waxa socda. It is longer, more relevant, and really more importantly concerns beyond Culusoow and Madoobe and the moment.

Kismaayo will become the Darod capital of the world and it will be in a Marehan led Jubbaland and yes MJ will be fine with it just like we are with Boosaaso. They will even be Mayors of Kismaayo just as us. Waxaan macna maleh iyo culusoow iyo KDF iyo Madoobe iyo dhalinyaradaan gafuurka wada taagayo ee Somalispot iyo waxaan.

Wassalam

But they are already the mayor. How can you make it daarood capital when you are planing to kick out the daarods in charge today. It's the same cycle , if you manage to kick out the cagdheers you will be forced to karbaash the harti as well. Otherwise they too are capable to kick you out. Can't the dooros agree common principles. Why do you have to fight over the control of that city.

You are not understanding something.

The only thing keeping Kismaayo from Marehan is Kenya Defense Forces and because qe don't see them as a permanent problem.

They either leave or Marehan will start a clan war the second they conceive Kenya has overstayed.

Neither MJ nor Harti nor Juj wa Majuj are needed for Marehan to seize all of Jubbaland. That's Kenya who is the present impediment.

Ny sub-clan of Reer Siyaad Diini of Garbahaarey can remove Madoobe or any other Somali group from Kismaayo by themselves let alone all of Marehan waana iga wallahi.

This is for the AFTER---you know AFTER we have seized Kismaayo control what is Jubbaland in everyway either with the Kenyans having vacated or been compelled to vacate upon us agreeing they overstayed.

Don't get it twisted.

This is for the day after---we want Kismaayo to be the Darod market of the world. We want it and it will be because no other city in the world implicates all of Darod like Kismaayo does.

Waan ilbaxnay.

[skywalker25]

Nomand, walaaloow is there anyone in Somali politics you do not wish gloom except for your bionic bunny Ahmed Madoobe.

Ahmed Madoobe is like Somaliland in Laascaanood. Inta uu joogahayo ha joogo---dabbadiis it is like sand between the hour glass.

Waxba ha colaadsan waxa socda. It is longer, more relevant, and really more importantly concerns beyond Culusoow and Madoobe and the moment.

Kismaayo will become the Darod capital of the world and it will be in a Marehan led Jubbaland and yes MJ will be fine with it just like we are with Boosaaso. They will even be Mayors of Kismaayo just as us. Waxaan macna maleh iyo culusoow iyo KDF iyo Madoobe iyo dhalinyaradaan gafuurka wada taagayo ee Somalispot iyo waxaan.

Wassalam

But they are already the mayor. How can you make it daarood capital when you are planing to kick out the daarods in charge today. It's the same cycle , if you manage to kick out the cagdheers you will be forced to karbaash the harti as well. Otherwise they too are capable to kick you out. Can't the dooros agree common principles. Why do you have to fight over the control of that city.

You are not understanding something.

The only thing keeping Kismaayo from Marehan is Kenya Defense Forces and because qe don't see them as a permanent problem.

They either leave or Marehan will start a clan war the second they conceive Kenya has overstayed.

Neither MJ nor Harti nor Juj wa Majuj are needed for Marehan to seize all of Jubbaland. That's Kenya who is the present impediment.

Ny sub-clan of Reer Siyaad Diini of Garbahaarey can remove Madoobe or any other Somali group from Kismaayo by themselves let alone all of Marehan waana iga wallahi.

This is for the AFTER---you know AFTER we have seized Kismaayo control what is Jubbaland in everyway either with the Kenyans having vacated or been compelled to vacate upon us agreeing they overstayed.

Don't get it twisted.

This is for the day after---we want Kismaayo to be the Darod market of the world. We want it and it will be because no other city in the world implicates all of Darod like Kismaayo does.

Waan ilbaxnay.

As a non Darod we are a little confused.
Are the current occupants of Kismayo now not Darod. Why cant it be a Darod market in its current format. Why are you happy to throw your political capital with Puntland, a very risky proposition with high a very high probability of seeing zero return. Instead of Madobe also risky but with a much higher reward if successful. Surely if the bases of your calculations are Darodnimo they both qualify under that criteria.
As an outsider looking in one has never understood the zero sum political position of Marexaan, on this forum at least. Its like you approach politics the same way one would approach war; either you die or I die. But politics allows you small wins and maybe somewhere down the line a bigger victory. In short it would be best you accepted your defeated position - just as you advice Somaliland. And be the passenger.

[theyuusuf143]

So you think mareexaan can subdue all other dooros in Kismayo. It's very unlikely. Simply because you are not the absolute majority of the town your civilians can't outnumber the combined civilians of the kablalax. So you can't use your peaple like the qurjiiles did in LA. Madoobe forces are also well equipped and more funded than yours. They even have more access to the SNA compare to you .

The cagdheer in Kismayo are not as weak as you think. KDF boss is cagdheer himself , he can prolong Their stay and convince his master to put Kismayo under the direct protection of Kenya without the AU mandate. Culusaw himself knows he will flee from Mogadishu with the UN helicopter if the foreign forces leave too soon. He prefers them to stay while he is pushing alshabaab out of his huttuland to the Mayland. in my opinion mareexaan has no chance through violence. I like your confidence though , Ku soco

[eliteSomali]

But they are already the mayor. How can you make it daarood capital when you are planing to kick out the daarods in charge today. It's the same cycle , if you manage to kick out the cagdheers you will be forced to karbaash the harti as well. Otherwise they too are capable to kick you out. Can't the dooros agree common principles. Why do you have to fight over the control of that city.

You are not understanding something.

The only thing keeping Kismaayo from Marehan is Kenya Defense Forces and because qe don't see them as a permanent problem.

They either leave or Marehan will start a clan war the second they conceive Kenya has overstayed.

Neither MJ nor Harti nor Juj wa Majuj are needed for Marehan to seize all of Jubbaland. That's Kenya who is the present impediment.

Ny sub-clan of Reer Siyaad Diini of Garbahaarey can remove Madoobe or any other Somali group from Kismaayo by themselves let alone all of Marehan waana iga wallahi.

This is for the AFTER---you know AFTER we have seized Kismaayo control what is Jubbaland in everyway either with the Kenyans having vacated or been compelled to vacate upon us agreeing they overstayed.

Don't get it twisted.

This is for the day after---we want Kismaayo to be the Darod market of the world. We want it and it will be because no other city in the world implicates all of Darod like Kismaayo does.

Waan ilbaxnay.

As a non Darod we are a little confused.
Are the current occupants of Kismayo now not Darod. Why cant it be a Darod market in its current format. Why are you happy to throw your political capital with Puntland, a very risky proposition with high a very high probability of seeing zero return. Instead of Madobe also risky but with a much higher reward if successful. Surely if the bases of your calculations are Darodnimo they both qualify under that criteria.
As an outsider looking in one has never understood the zero sum political position of Marexaan, on this forum at least. Its like you approach politics the same way one would approach war; either you die or I die. But politics allows you small wins and maybe somewhere down the line a bigger victory. In short it would be best you accepted your defeated position - just as you advice Somaliland. And be the passenger.

Waa classic afku xoogle.
Kismaayo ma cid baa hor taagan?

He doesn't see it but he's admitting how weak his clan is because by begging the puntlanders, he's basically saying his clan are unable to get what's theirs on their own. lol

@Gubbet, you'll be on this very site next year around this time predicting how Madobe will lose the election and how one of your clansmen will become president, but as usual, you'll be wrong and the man you hate so much will be back for another 5 years to humiliate you and anyone who allies with you, and by the end of that term, it'll have been 18 years

The closest chance you had was when we had the autistic farmaajo as president, but unfortunately for you, he failed.

[Gubbet]

But they are already the mayor. How can you make it daarood capital when you are planing to kick out the daarods in charge today. It's the same cycle , if you manage to kick out the cagdheers you will be forced to karbaash the harti as well. Otherwise they too are capable to kick you out. Can't the dooros agree common principles. Why do you have to fight over the control of that city.

You are not understanding something.

The only thing keeping Kismaayo from Marehan is Kenya Defense Forces and because qe don't see them as a permanent problem.

They either leave or Marehan will start a clan war the second they conceive Kenya has overstayed.

Neither MJ nor Harti nor Juj wa Majuj are needed for Marehan to seize all of Jubbaland. That's Kenya who is the present impediment.

Ny sub-clan of Reer Siyaad Diini of Garbahaarey can remove Madoobe or any other Somali group from Kismaayo by themselves let alone all of Marehan waana iga wallahi.

This is for the AFTER---you know AFTER we have seized Kismaayo control what is Jubbaland in everyway either with the Kenyans having vacated or been compelled to vacate upon us agreeing they overstayed.

Don't get it twisted.

This is for the day after---we want Kismaayo to be the Darod market of the world. We want it and it will be because no other city in the world implicates all of Darod like Kismaayo does.

Waan ilbaxnay.

As a non Darod we are a little confused.
Are the current occupants of Kismayo now not Darod. Why cant it be a Darod market in its current format. Why are you happy to throw your political capital with Puntland, a very risky proposition with high a very high probability of seeing zero return. Instead of Madobe also risky but with a much higher reward if successful. Surely if the bases of your calculations are Darodnimo they both qualify under that criteria.
As an outsider looking in one has never understood the zero sum political position of Marexaan, on this forum at least. Its like you approach politics the same way one would approach war; either you die or I die. But politics allows you small wins and maybe somewhere down the line a bigger victory. In short it would be best you accepted your defeated position - just as you advice Somaliland. And be the passenger.

This is probably the single modt astute and enlightening question you ever presented (heck I have ever received on this forum). I will think about it and give you a befitting (not long haha) reply soon.