Look @ this conversation btw Ogaden & Isaaq to see why my geocoding is transformational. It undid 80 yr info blackout.

[eliteSomali]

War I will be the first to say Doolo waxaa iska leh Ogaden, xitaa Hartiga shuqul kuma laha iskaba daa Iidoor, hasa ahaate ceelasha Doolo its a small strip of land north of us, and Doolo zone renamed from Warder zone is a massive land the largest administrative zone in DDS and perhaps all of Ethiopia, dee dhulkaas baxaada leh waa wada OG kaama yeeliye.

Infact maba la isku qabsan wiligeed, Sayidka iyo Darwiish ma ahane cid kale oo inagu qabsatay meesan jirin, up until Mahbar days 80s.

Adiga Rer Cabdille baa tahay you don't know anything about this Doolo waa hore lagaa ceriye oo nimanka isaaq baa idin cerysade, xitaa qoraxeey aad magaalo madax u tahay you don't know its largest Woreda Shilaabo because maba degtid oo Ogaden waxaa ka dego Bah Geri iyo Makahil labadoodna waxee la degan MX!

I know OG lands quite well, and I happen to know the land in a general sense. I can tell you who lives here except for small tuulos.
I have mentioned already that isn't shocking that MX lives in the areas you mentioned because they live on the other side of the border. That's literally the case everywhere. What I will not except is for gubbet and others to claim shilaabo as a marehan deegaan when the mayor, deputy mayor, and all three xildhiban from that district is all Ogaden. I have repeatedly said if you want to know who owns where, you look at the representation. Stop this major complex yall got. Dhulkiina dhista, cid idinku haysataa majirto, cid idinku qabsan kartaana majirto mana jiri doonto. When I see the likes of Gubbet and others claiming lands that they do not even make up 5%, I feel bad for them. It makes him look like nin ciilan, nin laangaab ah, nin dhul aan haysan etc..., something which is not a good look for you guys.

qof deegaanka garanayo siyaasiga ma fiiriyo, listen Qabridahar waxaa gudomiye ka ha nin Rer Yuusuf MX ah, but Qabridahar waa deegaan Rer Cabdille gaar ahaan Rer Warfa OG, xilka ku fadhiyo ninka MX waa laga xayuubin kara, balse Rer Warfa cid kale oo ka qaadi karto deegaankod ma jiro.
Its the same with Shilaabo, waa deegaan MX, ciduu rabo ha noqdo Gudomiye, awalba waxaa ka ahaa Harti, kaale sheeg ma Harti ba degan Shilaabo.

adeer OG waa tolkay Daroodna wee iiga xigaan markaan dhiiga iyo DNA ka hadlayo, I know the deegaan better than you xitaa dhinaca OG, you are stumbling and look lost, waxaa tahay baa sheki iiga jiro, maybe you are not even OG.

The mayor of Qabridahar is indeed mx but he's practically reer ugas magan, they even came to his aid when other rer warfaa tribes tried to remove him last year. Mayor of jijigjiga is Geri, mayor marehan deegaan in nageyle is hawadle, did you know that? I forgot the name. Since cagjar came to power, we've been seeing more and more of this.
Correction, harti was never the governor for shilaabo, ever! This is what I mean when I say I won't allow false information to be spread around.

lastly kaalaya soo dega deegaanka, I genuinely mean that. Too massive of a land to fight over.

[eliteSomali]

^ dude stop crying, shilaabo belongs to Ogaden. I have proved it.
if it is yours, go get yourself the mayor, and the 3 xildhibaans. You can't own land online my guy.
who are you trying to convince with your fake claims?
There are more reer cabdille in shilaabo than marehaan. Besides, wasn't' it just last year that here was skirmish between gumucadle and marehan in fadhigaraadle where you midget ugaas was begging for peace? How can you claim Shilaabo.
Have some shame.

[Gubbet]

Elite-

If you would like a role model, someone to emulate in what you are saying look no further than your own Ogaadeen clan especially your own Bah Geri cousins.

Abid lama sheegin Mareexaan and Bah Geri killing each other and they are the Ogaden in Shilaabo "town" that you used to try to fundamentally commit injustice against Marehan in this very topic with the intolerable denial of Marehan equity to 90% of Shilaabo "district."

In fact, Bah Geri has been such a good neighbor and brother to their Marehan neighbors and Marehan admiration and respect for Bah Geri so strong that right now this very second Cayr in Lababaar near Ulasan are accusing Bah Geri of acting as "look outs" for Marehan allegedly planning "reprisal" for the aano qabiil Cayr recently committed against an innocent Marehan herding family near the Hiiraan border.




Similarly while you and Makaahiil and other Ogaden have made it a habit of trying to delegetimize Marehan settlement in his land as "encroachment", here are Bah Geri elders speaking from "Shilabo town" fundamentally implicating themselves in profound justice affirming Marehan settlement and ownership serving as living witnesses to the fact forget Marehan "encroaching," but that Marehan is actually MISSING justice having been displaced from even more parts of Shilaabo by the Dergue government of Menguste in 1982 in their path to the capture of Balanbale of that year.


Bah Geri elders "dukumiintiga dib haloo raaco" (let's open the record books) starting 10:40:



"We [Bah Geri] have historically lived here, so too has Awrtable [Darod]; Marehan are the historical owners of this land. The Dergue [Menguste government] & "Majerteen Kulmis" [SSDF] uprooted them [in 1982]. There wasn't a single one of them [Habar Gidir] past the road [north/south highway in Somalia] until that event."

You have committed transgression against justice and all that is good under God with your conduct in this topic.

Ilaahay ha ku soo hadeeyo, xaqiisane ha ku tuso and indeed, all of us.

[Gubbet]

^ dude stop crying, shilaabo belongs to Ogaden. I have proved it.
if it is yours, go get yourself the mayor, and the 3 xildhibaans. You can't own land online my guy.
who are you trying to convince with your fake claims?
There are more reer cabdille in shilaabo than marehaan. Besides, wasn't' it just last year that here was skirmish between gumucadle and marehan in fadhigaraadle where you midget ugaas was begging for peace? How can you claim Shilaabo.
Have some shame.

Are you bipolar? Wallahi I am dead serious.

[Hulkujir]

I know OG lands quite well, and I happen to know the land in a general sense. I can tell you who lives here except for small tuulos.
I have mentioned already that isn't shocking that MX lives in the areas you mentioned because they live on the other side of the border. That's literally the case everywhere. What I will not except is for gubbet and others to claim shilaabo as a marehan deegaan when the mayor, deputy mayor, and all three xildhiban from that district is all Ogaden. I have repeatedly said if you want to know who owns where, you look at the representation. Stop this major complex yall got. Dhulkiina dhista, cid idinku haysataa majirto, cid idinku qabsan kartaana majirto mana jiri doonto. When I see the likes of Gubbet and others claiming lands that they do not even make up 5%, I feel bad for them. It makes him look like nin ciilan, nin laangaab ah, nin dhul aan haysan etc..., something which is not a good look for you guys.

qof deegaanka garanayo siyaasiga ma fiiriyo, listen Qabridahar waxaa gudomiye ka ha nin Rer Yuusuf MX ah, but Qabridahar waa deegaan Rer Cabdille gaar ahaan Rer Warfa OG, xilka ku fadhiyo ninka MX waa laga xayuubin kara, balse Rer Warfa cid kale oo ka qaadi karto deegaankod ma jiro.
Its the same with Shilaabo, waa deegaan MX, ciduu rabo ha noqdo Gudomiye, awalba waxaa ka ahaa Harti, kaale sheeg ma Harti ba degan Shilaabo.

adeer OG waa tolkay Daroodna wee iiga xigaan markaan dhiiga iyo DNA ka hadlayo, I know the deegaan better than you xitaa dhinaca OG, you are stumbling and look lost, waxaa tahay baa sheki iiga jiro, maybe you are not even OG.

The mayor of Qabridahar is indeed mx but he's practically reer ugas magan, they even came to his aid when other rer warfaa tribes tried to remove him last year. Mayor of jijigjiga is Geri, mayor marehan deegaan in nageyle is hawadle, did you know that? I forgot the name. Since cagjar came to power, we've been seeing more and more of this.
Correction, harti was never the governor for shilaabo, ever! This is what I mean when I say I won't allow false information to be spread around.

lastly kaalaya soo dega deegaanka, I genuinely mean that. Too massive of a land to fight over.

What do you mean kaalaya soo dega ?

War waan joogna wiligeena waan joognay lol, waa gaf iyo xaqirad waxaa wadi but kuuma qabsanayi because I already detected you are not bright, you probably did not graduate from high school, even your own cousin the Rer Isaaq dude admitted Shilaabo is majority Darood because of MX, waxaa soo raaco in yaro Bah Gerri, Makahil live north of Shilaabo, kuwaan Gumcadlaha are new people we use to live next to Gacanweyne in Yucub, Gerlogubay etc I admit Gumcadle today are in Qarsooni and even took our land Caleen, waa caadi dowlad baa u hiilisay, but even with that they only have Qarsooni and Caleen, MX live in Shilaabo-Somalia border as well as Shilaabo Wardheer border exclusively, and are fighting Iljeex in the south. Magaalada Shilaabo maba ahan Magaalo waa tuulo yar, Balanbale is 10 times bigger than Shilaabo, afarta qof degan ukala qeybi Amxaaro shirkada shidaalka ka shaqeyso, askari Amxaar oo wardiyo ah, iyo shacab yar oo mixed ah, dadka badankood meeshas waa rer miyi waana MX, wax magaalo la yirahdo maba ku arkin Google maps.

[Gubbet]

The man mentioned "Rer Abdille" with Shilaabo like it wasn't just a month ago Gumcadle forcefully stopped Cagjar from including Rer Ugaas Magan Warfaa in a water project in Qamuuda to the point blood was shed.

Regarding "soo dega" he probably doesn't even understand the "contested" area is not east towards the border but WEST of Marehan now towards Caleen, the Bali Midgaan near Lahelow, and Jaleelo.

In fact, I am tempted to post a secret group telephone conference in which Makaahiil are lamenting it is "inevitable" Marehan will once again "reach" the highway between Shilabo and Warder which was the border of Marehan as recently as the 90's.

Also they complain extremely about "Aarsade" sensing the "power" of Marehan is "back" and are all in droves migrating across the clan boundary point "leaving" Makaahiil to make base with Marehan having decided Marehan is the "landlord" once again.

To my surprise it was the first time I even realized that Makaahiil had "submerged" Aarsade and that what started the fighting between them and Rer Cusmaan/MX in Neefkuceliye wasn't a one off thing. Essentially where Makaahiil told Reer Cusmaan to "renounce" being MX and be reborn a "Gumcadle lineage." Of course Reer Cusmaan said that is a non-starter which is why the fighting at Neefkuceliye started that pushed Makaahiil back from grazing even up to Ceel Dibir since the 90's.

It would seem Makaahiil had a history of this and a recent precedent was Aarsade. In the discussion, I also realized something even more intriguing which is the number and the amount of benefit Makaahiil gained from submerging Aarsade. Aarsade is apparently a substantial community to the extent they literally display the fear a large part of what is presently considered their part of "Lahelow-Yucub" will become "lost" to Marehan if Aarsade is not "stopped." At the center of this is the area around Jaleelo straddling on both sides the road between Warder and Shilabo.

Of course anyone from Wardeer, Galaadi, and Shilaabo to Caabudwaaq district should know what Aarsade is, but in case one doesn't, Aarsade is the main "Gabooye/Madhibaan" umbrella for the artisanal communities in that geography.

It is like "Muuse Dheeri" in Hargeisa and Waqooyi or "Kuulbeer" in Gaalkacyo and Mudug.

Should I post it?

P.S. The name Aarsade intrigues btw and whether it alludes to something like "Madhibaan Garaad" on Sool or basically whether the name itself is a historical artifact alluding to historical protection status under Marehan since all of this entire area was under Marehan suzerainty until modern colonialism and state borders. Hmm

[Hulkujir]

When it comes to Aqoon wiilkas Rer Isaaqa he knows OG inside out, mana ahan qof cadalaad xumo yaqaan, he said Shilaabo is majority MX, elitesomali I don't think it is hatred for Beesha Sade he has, he is ignorant, he cannot name two qabale in Shilaabo wax kale aan ka wada hadalno Shilaabo, Doolo war uma haysi.

[eliteSomali]

Spare me the calacal fellas. Shilaabo is as Marehan as Garbaharay is Ogaden.
who is this wiilka rer isaq you guys keep mentioning?
Shilaabo is majority Muse guamcadle, followed by bahgeri, followed by reer abdille. Whatever that's left is less than 5% border villages.

MK were so close to the abudwaaq border not long ago before president cagjar disarmed them.

[Northkil]

The man mentioned "Rer Abdille" with Shilaabo like it wasn't just a month ago Gumcadle forcefully stopped Cagjar from including Rer Ugaas Magan Warfaa in a water project in Qamuuda to the point blood was shed.

Regarding "soo dega" he probably doesn't even understand the "contested" area is not east towards the border but WEST of Marehan now towards Caleen, the Bali Midgaan near Lahelow, and Jaleelo.

In fact, I am tempted to post a secret group telephone conference in which Makaahiil are lamenting it is "inevitable" Marehan will once again "reach" the highway between Shilabo and Warder which was the border of Marehan as recently as the 90's.

Also they complain extremely about "Aarsade" sensing the "power" of Marehan is "back" and are all in droves migrating across the clan boundary point "leaving" Makaahiil to make base with Marehan having decided Marehan is the "landlord" once again.

To my surprise it was the first time I even realized that Makaahiil had "submerged" Aarsade and that what started the fighting between them and Rer Cusmaan/MX in Neefkuceliye wasn't a one off thing. Essentially where Makaahiil told Reer Cusmaan to "renounce" being MX and be reborn a "Gumcadle lineage." Of course Reer Cusmaan said that is a non-starter which is why the fighting at Neefkuceliye started that pushed Makaahiil back from grazing even up to Ceel Dibir since the 90's.

It would seem Makaahiil had a history of this and a recent precedent was Aarsade. In the discussion, I also realized something even more intriguing which is the number and the amount of benefit Makaahiil gained from submerging Aarsade. Aarsade is apparently a substantial community to the extent they literally display the fear a large part of what is presently considered their part of "Lahelow-Yucub" will become "lost" to Marehan if Aarsade is not "stopped." At the center of this is the area around Jaleelo straddling on both sides the road between Warder and Shilabo.

Of course anyone from Wardeer, Galaadi, and Shilaabo to Caabudwaaq district should know what Aarsade is, but in case one doesn't, Aarsade is the main "Gabooye/Madhibaan" umbrella for the artisanal communities in that geography.

It is like "Muuse Dheeri" in Hargeisa and Waqooyi or "Kuulbeer" in Gaalkacyo and Mudug.

Should I post it?

P.S. The name Aarsade intrigues btw and whether it alludes to something like "Madhibaan Garaad" on Sool or basically whether the name itself is a historical artifact alluding to historical protection status under Marehan since all of this entire area was under Marehan suzerainty until modern colonialism and state borders. Hmm

Do it

[Gubbet]

Northkil, I have decided waa ceeb iyo fadeexo if I were to do that. Even more, Makaahiil waa tol especially. Wallahi as God is witness, Makaahiil just as much if not more than any other single group of people anywhere on earth have committed egregious, intolerable, even hate-inspiring transgression and dulmi against us. Wax ay noo reebeen ama ay noola hareen ma ay jirto and the extent of the godob we are counting against them singularly may even excede even HG, but at the end of the day anigu wax waan ula hari oo sumcad dil iyo foolxumo kula dhaqmi maayo. Teeda kale aniguba si kedis ah ayaan u helay oo waa rag dhexdood tashanaya taasuna hadii ay ceeb tahay kuligeenu waaw wada ceeb miiran. Marka, soo dhigi maayo. Inaan ka war sheekooday ayaa anigu laf ahaantayda ceeb igu ah alle hayna ceeb asturee!

[Northkil]

Northkil, I have decided waa ceeb iyo fadeexo if I were to do that. Even more, Makaahiil waa tol especially. Wallahi as God is witness, Makaahiil just as much if not more than any other single group of people anywhere on earth have committed egregious, intolerable, even hate-inspiring transgression and dulmi against us. Wax ay noo reebeen ama ay noola hareen ma ay jirto and the extent of the godob we are counting against them singularly may even excede even HG, but at the end of the day anigu wax waan ula hari oo sumcad dil iyo foolxumo kula dhaqmi maayo. Teeda kale aniguba si kedis ah ayaan u helay oo waa rag dhexdood tashanaya taasuna hadii ay ceeb tahay kuligeenu waaw wada ceeb miiran. Marka, soo dhigi maayo. Inaan ka war sheekooday ayaa anigu laf ahaantayda ceeb igu ah alle hayna ceeb asturee!

Very honourable of you sxb

[Gubbet]

There's been quite a bit of google approvals since last update;

1. Dalsan
2. Libahyale (Libaaxyaale)
3. Dafle
4. Dilimbaa
5. Angalo
6. Dhaake
7. Ali Yalo
8. Lan Dodole (Laan Dowdowle)
9. Burale
10. Horiyo (Xoriyo)
11. Darasalam
12. Boran Ad (Booraan-cad)
13. Sarmaan (Tuulo Sarmaan)
14. Hananle (Tuulo Hananle)
15. Gahandhale (Gaxandhaale)!

Forgot;

16. Gesawayne

Update

Google has approved

1. Bali Jeh (Bali Jeex)
2. Kalafoge
3. Galmeygag
4. Kahandhale!

Kahandhale is the Reer Siyaad Kaxandhaale of Balanbale not Gahandhale that is Wagardhac Gaxandhaale of Saaxo.

[Gubbet]

Just a disclaimer regarding how "behind" Google Satellite imagery is;

Google Satellite is the "least" updated satellite imagery of the major providers. Just because a place looks one way on Google Maps satellite does not necessarily mean that is the the reality right this second.

Saaxo is a real good example of this issue, as the top represents google satellite, the center represents mapbox satellite, and the bottom represents ESRI arcgis satellite



But also, if you look at many other places that I have mapped, google satellite in general is completely behind as you can see using Dacdheer and Gaxandhaale for example;

This is Dacdheer as shown by ESRI




And this is Dacdheer comparing ESRI and Google satellite



Similarly, Gaxandhaale is an empty plot of land on google satellite but ESRI shows this update;

[Sbashi]

^ dude stop crying, shilaabo belongs to Ogaden. I have proved it.
if it is yours, go get yourself the mayor, and the 3 xildhibaans. You can't own land online my guy.
who are you trying to convince with your fake claims?
There are more reer cabdille in shilaabo than marehaan. Besides, wasn't' it just last year that here was skirmish between gumucadle and marehan in fadhigaraadle where you midget ugaas was begging for peace? How can you claim Shilaabo.
Have some shame.

That's irrelevant. Just recently celi got an mp from galaadi. Does this mean celi only started settling the place in 2022? Your argument is laughable.

You yourself say there was a fight between gumucadle and mx in north of fadhigaraadle yet in this same thread you claim mx lives only in border towns. I mean are you even listening to yourself?

You said mx live in fadhigaraadle, you said mx don't have representation for where they live. And then you argued because they don't have representation they don't live there. This is a serious case of cognitive dissonance, that's why you appear lost.

You contradicted your argument and proved political representation ≠ population size/number of settlements or even who settles where.

And finally we have the old maps showing where mx live. You definitely saw those but here you are arguing nonsense like mx need to settle the land.

[Gubbet]

Update

Google has approved

1. Bali Jeh (Bali Jeex)
2. Kalafoge
3. Galmeygag
4. Kahandhale!

Kahandhale is the Reer Siyaad Kaxandhaale of Balanbale not Gahandhale that is Wagardhac Gaxandhaale of Saaxo.

Looks like the approved were 6 not 4!

5. Abda'ale (Cabda Caale)
6. Bali Hawd