North South integration starts as south’s elders land in hargeisa

[theyuusuf143]

Exchange "land" at the end of Somaliland with it's exact Latin suffix counterpart. That home.

Be specific English is not my first language .

Somaliland = Somalia

Somali = Somali
land = ia [Latin suffix mean 'land of/land']

Exchanging land with exact Latin counterpart is "ia"

Somali + ia = Somalia

Welcome back home.

In that case come to hargeisa and take our flag . We don't mine to rule you from hargeisa.

[Khalid Ali]

Mahoka so in other words u became traitor because Somaliland didnt fight hard against the qurjiiles and as a result u want to know fully join walanweyns wauuw and share the same country with the same jeberti filth that u hate , waauw ,. to become a traitor like that i dont know

by the way mahoka does not represent nuux ismaciil this is a a great clan of great prestige and he does not represent them the nuux ismaciil are proud people of Somaliland and one of the aristrocratic families of Somaliland long live

[theyuusuf143]

Mahoka so in other words u became traitor because Somaliland didnt fight hard against the qurjiiles and as a result u want to know fully join walanweyns wauuw and share the same country with the same jeberti filth that u hate , waauw ,. to become a traitor like that i dont know

by the way mahoka does not represent nuux ismaciil this is a a great clan of great prestige and he does not represent them the nuux ismaciil are proud people of Somaliland and one of the aristrocratic families of Somaliland long live

Just kordhi cashuur ta daaawooyinka macaanka. ma nin waalan baad tahay markad dhali sacle wax waydiinayso.

[original dervish]

The SSC supporters are not wise a bit dumb and strange group of people they want to jeopardize a meeting meant to save the civilians of LA from the guns of Muuse Biixi besides this Odayaal are not here for gov't or any of that but here for peace mediation.

I have seen the SSC supporters were goading SL and even going as low as taking photos of the private jet logo they landed on..

This has nothing to do with sovereignty and all that hence the odaayal are strictly here to talk ceasefire or seek ways for political settlement to the LA situation..

Muuse Biixi doesn't want ceasefire or anything but ways to purge the city and kick out the LA civilians. But if you antagonize the SL sovereignty with this irrelevant stuff then you are encouraging the Idoors to only reject the peace and jeopardizing your peace in LA if the rockets start raining again you are to blame for as you have not played your cards well

Look at the mental gymnastics this dude has to engage in to place blame for this conflict on the honourable Dhulbahante people.

The entirety of the international community has condemned tyrant Bixi aggression on peaceful civilians.

The majority of Somalis have expressed support for Dhulbahante right of self determination.

The iidoors have launched over 40 offensives against Lascaanood, with horrific casualties, and have failed to gain a single inch of territory.

The iidoors will soon withdraw.......their precarious position is unsustainable.

[grandpakhalif]

Seems like even mahoka has realized the 30 year dream has come to an end.

[KacdoonSool]

[mahoka]

Mahoka so in other words u became traitor because Somaliland didnt fight hard against the qurjiiles and as a result u want to know fully join walanweyns wauuw and share the same country with the same jeberti filth that u hate , waauw ,. to become a traitor like that i dont know

by the way mahoka does not represent nuux ismaciil this is a a great clan of great prestige and he does not represent them the nuux ismaciil are proud people of Somaliland and one of the aristrocratic families of Somaliland long live

Don’t listen to me, listen to these hardcore ictiraaf radicals

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Welcome back home Yusuf.

We are family here , same like the Galti . Nuux ismaaciil ku waa reer gurigiina oo kale , nin luuq jooga oo sagaal hectare oo webiga kulaalaya lehba baa waxa u talinaya nin caabudwaaq Ka yimi.

Dunidan marwalba ninka ooman baa belaayada jecel

Gudoomiyaha degmada Luuq, Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Gedo, Madaxwayne ku xigeenka Jubbaland, intuba waaw wada Saddam-Mariixmaan (Reer Hassan from Luuq who are Guri). Malaha idinkeey waxaas idin dhex taal, Mareexaan waa mid qura

“High on the deck the godlike hero stands, With olive crown’d, a charger in his hands; Then cast the reeking entrails in the brine, And pour’d the sacrifice of purple wine.”— Virgil, The Aenid

[Miles8]

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Look at the mental gymnastics this dude has to engage in to place blame

My message was not to blame anyone but I have to admit I am bit annoyed by the SSC supporters online campaigns. War nimanyahow chill let us talk to them and everytime we wanna talk to them it gets hijacked by SSC supporters who agitate or MJ folks who are fitna. I have finally realized why there is not much talks between Somali gov't and SL because there are agitators inbetween and it is unfortunate that the idoors are easily riled up by this troll elements. If they were to come to Mogadishu it would just be reverse and they will say ''Look now the dream has died yada yada'' They use this card constantly and it is tiring. I was seeing even xataa small things such as the private jet logo getting pointed and used as propaganda which is reaching for straws.

Everytime we wanna talk it gets hijacked by the same elements



Just normal talk over a tea xataa will get hijacked and how are we suppose to communicate anything to them such as ceasefire or anything. It is like one guy is sitting in between two phones and constantly cutting the wire in between

[skywalker25]

The penny finally dropped that SL never really had proper with the south but Darod. We wanted to break away from them and if it means taking a small portion of them with us so be it. They would be sent to reeducation camps then de-darodized. The problem with Somalia is Darod.

[Khalid Ali]

The penny finally dropped that SL never really had proper with the south but Darod. We wanted to break away from them and if it means taking a small portion of them with us so be it. They would be sent to reeducation camps then de-darodized. The problem with Somalia is Darod.

Well said co sign sky walker

[BestP]

The problem with Somalia is Darod.

The problem with Somalia is tribalism.All clans fail to understand the concept of a nation state.In other words, Somali clans are deeply tribal and that places them in a precarious state of perpetual tribal conflict.


ISAAQ
Their extreme hate for Darod and their glorification of SNM history makes them unfit for ictiraaf. Iidoor simply can't build an inclusive multi-clan Somaliland which is why Dhulbaante completed shunned the ill-fated two-clan hegemon(HA-HJ) known as Somaliland.

HAWIYE
Hawiye wasted their golden opportunity to spearhead a united Somalia in early 1990s but they instead chose violence over peace. They killed Darods, looted govt facilities, seized lands of weaker tribes.Ib fact, both Siyad Barre and USC equally destroyed Somalia.

Today's Hawiye politicians want a united ,high centralized Somalia centered around the economic and the political might of Mogadishu. They want sideline MJ who are the natural leaders of Darod politics.But these Hawiye elites are not very smart as they can't afford to fix Hamar and the south before they embark on their mission of eliminating Darod from the top leadership.

DAAROOD
Siyad Bare was a Darod man who destroyed Somalia.Even his archenemies, the Iidoors, admit the good performance of Siyad Barre in his first 8 years in office (1969-1976s) but all hell broke loose after the Ogaden war. He should have resigned or reformed his govt but instead he chose to crush disgruntled clans such as MJ, Iidoor, Hawiye etc.Evidently, it is not sustainable to subdue an entire population in the long run and Siyad Barre mistakes ultimately created clan militia which lead to the demise of downfall of the regime.


Now, interestingly both Hawiye and Iidoor believe the Kacaan regime lost the war and so were the Darods.They gravely interchange the regime with Darod which is entirely wrong and immoral.

Despite declaring an all-out war, Hawiye failed to crush Darod.USC breifly occupied Jubaland but they failed to establish their dominance .They also wanted to crush Puntland but they failed to capture Darod side of Galkacyo.

"Waagii uu xoogu shaqaynaayay ,Hawiye cidlay ku biyo baxeen" Salad Cali Jeelle.



An iidoor SNM veteran once said "dagaal ninkii badiya ayaa taarikhda qora'" ..Iidoor elites believe they already defeated Darod and they are rightful owners of Northern Harti and their territories.Thsnks to Dhulbaante, Iidoor hubris is finally dying a painful death. SNM elements are now waking up to the reality .Darod clan is too big to defeated and Dhulbaante will never be part of Somaliland.


"Darod vision for Somalia"

Iidoor secessionism failed
Hawiye's strong central govt is untenable
Darod's unified federal Somalia is gradually getting popular (Thanks to Puntland and MJs)


Qabyaalada Soomaaliyeed waxaa looga gudbi karaa in la Helo nidaam dawladeed, mid ay qabaailadu ku kala badbaadi karaan , isugu dawladayn karin , isku muquunin Karin.Nidaamkaa waa nidaam ku salaysan in wax la wada yeesho ,qolo walibana waxeeda gaar u yeelato.

Qabyaalada ayaa xun balse qabiilku waa qayb ka mid ah nolosheena sidaa awgeed waxaa loo baahanyahay system deegaan iyo qabiil ku dhisan, system kaas oo aan dulmayn qaar ka mid ah beelaha Soomaliyeed.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Macrobians say celi:

[Miles8]

The problem with Somalia is Darod.

The problem with Somalia is tribalism.All clans fail to understand the concept of a nation state.In other words, Somali clans are deeply tribal and that places them in a precarious state of perpetual tribal conflict.


ISAAQ
Their extreme hate for Darod and their glorification of SNM history makes them unfit for ictiraaf. Iidoor simply can't build an inclusive multi-clan Somaliland which is why Dhulbaante completed shunned the ill-fated two-clan hegemon(HA-HJ) known as Somaliland.

HAWIYE
Hawiye wasted their golden opportunity to spearhead a united Somalia in early 1990s but they instead chose violence over peace. They killed Darods, looted govt facilities, seized lands of weaker tribes.Ib fact, both Siyad Barre and USC equally destroyed Somalia.

Today's Hawiye politicians want a united ,high centralized Somalia centered around the economic and the political might of Mogadishu. They want sideline MJ who are the natural leaders of Darod politics.But these Hawiye elites are not very smart as they can't afford to fix Hamar and the south before they embark on their mission of eliminating Darod from the top leadership.

DAAROOD
Siyad Bare was a Darod man who destroyed Somalia.Even his archenemies, the Iidoors, admit the good performance of Siyad Barre in his first 8 years in office (1969-1976s) but all hell broke loose after the Ogaden war. He should have resigned or reformed his govt but instead he chose to crush disgruntled clans such as MJ, Iidoor, Hawiye etc.Evidently, it is not sustainable to subdue an entire population in the long run and Siyad Barre mistakes ultimately created clan militia which lead to the demise of downfall of the regime.


Now, interestingly both Hawiye and Iidoor believe the Kacaan regime lost the war and so were the Darods.They gravely interchange the regime with Darod which is entirely wrong and immoral.

Despite declaring an all-out war, Hawiye failed to crush Darod.USC breifly occupied Jubaland but they failed to establish their dominance .They also wanted to crush Puntland but they failed to capture Darod side of Galkacyo.

"Waagii uu xoogu shaqaynaayay ,Hawiye cidlay ku biyo baxeen" Salad Cali Jeelle.



An iidoor SNM veteran once said "dagaal ninkii badiya ayaa taarikhda qora'" ..Iidoor elites believe they already defeated Darod and they are rightful owners of Northern Harti and their territories.Thsnks to Dhulbaante, Iidoor hubris is finally dying a painful death. SNM elements are now waking up to the reality .Darod clan is too big to defeated and Dhulbaante will never be part of Somaliland.


"Darod vision for Somalia"

Iidoor secessionism failed
Hawiye's strong central govt is untenable
Darod's unified federal Somalia is gradually getting popular (Thanks to Puntland and MJs)


Qabyaalada Soomaaliyeed waxaa looga gudbi karaa in la Helo nidaam dawladeed, mid ay qabaailadu ku kala badbaadi karaan , isugu dawladayn karin , isku muquunin Karin.Nidaamkaa waa nidaam ku salaysan in wax la wada yeesho ,qolo walibana waxeeda gaar u yeelato.

Qabyaalada ayaa xun balse qabiilku waa qayb ka mid ah nolosheena sidaa awgeed waxaa loo baahanyahay system deegaan iyo qabiil ku dhisan, system kaas oo aan dulmayn qaar ka mid ah beelaha Soomaliyeed.

This is some revisionism chest-beating gone wrong.

First I wanna tackle the USC revisionism and Hawiye part. Siyaad was entirely at fault but I admit the Hawiye went to far and hence they are partial in that or perhaps a bigger portion of it or the biggest portion can be assigned to them.

But the analogy that we couldn't take Gaalkacyo or destroy darood is a major fallacy our intention was never to destroy darod they are aren't pest and besides as soon as Barre was chased to away Mandhera there was no reason in beating a dead horse hence Mahdi and Caydiid had their own tango to settle which by the way was way more demanding then anything hence all campaigns ended by that time.

You assume that you are smart yet Again Hawiye has dominated somali politics for the last 33 years including another 12 years previously and Somalia is relatively a young country like 65 years old. over half of reer PL are pastorals and reer badiye they have not integrated properly into a civilization.

You are geographically located in a desolate area to have any importance even If you were offered independence on a plat you wouldn't want it. PL is the weakest state in Somalia, militarily, economically and population wise it is an empty dry land with severe desertification hence it has no future prospects.

We can take it militarily without much effort today And yesterday you defending it would be like putting a camel thru a needle.. You have to look at the population etc etc potential and stuff like that. It is the weakest state in Somali per none it has no competition.

We are going different route currently and the future plan is to create demarcations to reduce tribal tensions and divert the people into development but it will come with stage by stage. The current federalism is not absolute it has holes but it will be perfected with demarcations.

[theyuusuf143]

Daarods are weak , unarmed and toothless. They are like a pet anaconda , you may seem too big but you are just a pet for every one, look Ethiopia , Oromo guy said to you qujbal and u responded ishi , Go to kenya , go to kismaayo , garbahaaray , laascaanood every where you have superiors telling you what what to do. Daarods are defeated and they should bow down before us and the hawiyes. Case closed.