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Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:59 pm
by theyuusuf143
Gubbet wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:47 am Yusuf, I expect the shimbirayahoow hees from Mohoka, but indeed you are a surprise. At the least understand stalking cyber detractor probably is taking inspiration from you first noticing "why" I utilize this forum to which I was the first to agree amd concur. It is why I found Nolol Cusub's enter effect irrelevant. Yes, I utilize this forum entirely for me and my community. Literally.
I wonder on what grounds your claim is based that mareexaan has the highest quality of life among all faaraxis. :lol:

Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:29 pm
by Gubbet
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:59 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:47 am Yusuf, I expect the shimbirayahoow hees from Mohoka, but indeed you are a surprise. At the least understand stalking cyber detractor probably is taking inspiration from you first noticing "why" I utilize this forum to which I was the first to agree amd concur. It is why I found Nolol Cusub's enter effect irrelevant. Yes, I utilize this forum entirely for me and my community. Literally.
I wonder on what grounds your claim is based that mareexaan has the highest quality of life among all faaraxis. :lol:
I gave the source.

I will give you one example based on scientific metrics.

Do you know the perception of "Gedo" as "food insecure" or "drought" or "humanitarian taxed.?"

This is a very wide public perception right because of the cyclical, rolling news campaigns?

"Gedo" according to FEWS and the UNOCHA (Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs) is one of the MOST food secure regions in Somalia.

It is more food secure than all of Somaliland, all of Puntland, all of Galmudug, all of the northwern belt of the interreverine from Hiiraan to Bakool.

In fact Gedo is the "4th" most consistently food secure and less "humanitarian taxed" regions over the last 20 years.

It has only Lower Jubba (capital Kismaayo), Lower Shabelle(Marka), and Middle Shabelle Regions (Jowhar) of Somalia that are more food secure.

The reason for that public perception is Gedo, in particular Dollow, is the biggest IDP relief center anywhere in Somalia. It would in fact be the biggest "refugee camp" if it were counted as such.

The road from the interreverine heartland from Baidoa and Buurhakabo into Gedo Region entering through Yurkud is a virtual " trail of tears."

That entire swath hugging the Luuq or Garbahaarey road to Baydhabo is severely taxes because it is a lifeline for IDPS heading to Dollow Camps.

It you had ever watched the frankly speaking Taliye Shub ever talk about it you will understand that "Marehan" of Gedo are really "humanitarian angels" for the folks ok using that lifeline heading to the Dollow Camps. The MX Gedo folks are feeding, sheltering, and sharing with tlthe constantly moving IDP streams what they have in their own homes even.

Let's see if you can come across this information about the food security of regions using the sources I referenced (FEWS network and UNOCHA).

So sxb Marehan has a remarkable presence among the former Somalia full of very complicated and complex circumstances.

For example those kids in Caabudwaaq that look like that and clearly getting the education putting them consistently at the top of Somalia---one would be surprised since Caabudwaaq is a "remote" dusty town in central Somalia, correct?

Caabudwaaq metro (mX connected to it from the landscape) probably has the same number of "camels" as the rest of entire central regions combined at the least if not betweem Qoroxeey to the coast.

Those kids are wealthy per capita relative to most of Somalis and their education is bought with money.

The same as Gedo Region.

Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:27 pm
by Nolol cusub
Gubbet wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:11 pm I am a son of Yahye & Moorif.

And I am a son of Juruf & Buruf. :lol:

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Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:41 pm
by theyuusuf143
High quality of life is often associated with wealth , Anigu weligay intan noola taajir marexaana ma maqal company mareexaana ma maqal iyo wershad toona , beero iyo kallun toona involved kuma tihidin, ganacsigiina kalena wax sidaa usii buuran oo la sheegi Karo maaha. Amni xumada xuduuda Ka jirta awgeed . Macdan aad qodateena ma maqal. Waxuun baan warkaaga Ka fahmay , raashinka UN Ka na dhex maroo qamadi badan baa naloo reebaa markaa gaajo nalookama werwerayo. Kkkkk

I would say the wealthiest daarods are warsangeli . Waxyaabo badan bay dibada u dhoofiyan, dahab, malay, maydi , dhuxul iyo xoolaba.

Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:43 pm
by Nolol cusub
mahoka wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:12 am Interesting findings mr Nolol Cusub

When it comes to Haraadiga Barre the appetite for anarchy is boundless. Gubbet is just a small sample of the larger mentality of the Haraadiga Barre's political class. When I say they are intellectually inferior I mean it in the context of risk and reward. The whole concept of risk and reward does not register with them. I'll explain later.

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Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:58 pm
by Gubbet
Nolol cusub wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:43 pm
mahoka wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:12 am Interesting findings mr Nolol Cusub

When it comes to Haraadiga Barre the appetite for anarchy is boundless. Gubbet is just a small sample of the larger mentality of the Haraadiga Barre's political class. When I say they are intellectually inferior I mean it in the context of risk and reward. The whole concept of risk and reward does not register with them. I'll explain later.

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Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:04 pm
by Nolol cusub
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:37 am
Nolol cusub wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:45 am
Gubbet wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:13 am
"Marehan today have the highest quality of life of any part of Somalia."

Source: a very highly placed Marehan technical staff

:lol: Thanks for proving my point. Your propaganda is purely for an internal consumption.

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Poor gubbet psychologist baa helay. ditoore aad noosoo booqo, gubbet cilladiisa adaa fahmaye.

Yuusuf, as a political class Haraadiga Barre is the weakest link among Somali race. They have presided over the 3 biggest disasters in Somali history. I'll explain.


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Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:47 pm
by Gubbet
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:41 pm High quality of life is often associated with wealth , Anigu weligay intan noola taajir marexaana ma maqal company mareexaana ma maqal iyo wershad toona , beero iyo kallun toona involved kuma tihidin, ganacsigiina kalena wax sidaa usii buuran oo la sheegi Karo maaha. Amni xumada xuduuda Ka jirta awgeed . Macdan aad qodateena ma maqal. Waxuun baan warkaaga Ka fahmay , raashinka UN Ka na dhex maroo qamadi badan baa naloo reebaa markaa gaajo nalookama werwerayo. Kkkkk

This is becoming rather redundant with you, sxb. At some point if you will implicate discussion, discuss the actual points raised. You keep implicating the same exchange without ever addressing the actual points.

This is a video out of Caabudwaaq this week, longer lines of almost unceasing trade trucks entering Caabudwaaq from Ethiopia with these ones from Berbera port to Mudug (Hobyo district) slowing down the usual north-south or Somali Region -Southern Somalia trade that enters through Caabudwaaq;



Recall what I shared from here in this post about my trip to Caabudwaaq👇

The SSC war disrupted the trade from Berbera through SSC to Mudug which originally did not enter through Caabudwaaq but from Galgaduud down all trade with either Boosaaso pr Berbera or northern Somali region enters through Caabudwaaq as I explained
Gubbet wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:15 am I don't think anybody in central Somalia wants to go back to this period. Especially trying a group that is the most Al Shabaab free in central Somalia.That would be Qaan Mareexaan waa Qaaxo kugu maqan on steroids.

I will also add 2 things

1. Starting at Bangeelle village, the tracks in Caabudwaaq have no rocks. None. Waa completely soft, blood red, compact soil. It is like that completely through Marehan territory until you get to the Ethiopian road connecting Galadi and Wardheer.

You can only understand how special that type of soil is for travel when you realize---OUTSIDE of rain---that track is easier, faster, and even more efficient for motor travel than dilapidated road, even mildly unkept paved road.

Wallahi anytime I left Caabudwaaq to go West, the car traveled 55+- Miles Per Hour (MPH). For reference, in the US, freeways have a speed limit of 60 MPH. In Caabudwaaq to Raqo for example, when the land flat and clear, multiple times the car reached close to 70 MPH.

For example, I traveled from Mogadishu to Afgooye once and, forget how ridiculous travel was in Mog (and Hargeisa tbh) because of the degredation of the pavement, you spend more tippy toeing around potholes than traveling---but we didn't pass 40 MPH between Mog and Afgooye

But literally inside Caabudwaaq and through it across Marehan country, on average you can go as far as the same as US freeway and even 70's MPH when coast is clear.

The soft, blood red compact soil has 1.) no rocks, none whatsoever and 2) when compact (any place you put your foot down or a motor vehicle goes through once) is as structurally sturdy enough as condensed gravel. In fact the compact, red soil of Caabudwaaq without rocks is actually buoyant forming as shock absorber over the wheels and alignment. This is why Rer Caabudwaaq vehicles last considerably longer than their neighbors.

I actually even describe the travel as pleasant and comfortable. It is sort of like invisible sturdy road "on clouds." Was very relaxing wallahi.

The only problem is when it rains---which is not a great problem, since rain is the exception not the norm.


2. Because of that + the security, THE ROUTE FOR TRADE IS NOT THE NORTH/SOUTH "highway." From the border of Galgaduud with Hiiraan or Middle Shabelle, the trade does not go north from Dhusamareb to Cadaado to Gelinsoor to Gaalkacyo. The trade ENTERS Somalia at Caabudwaaq then it goes through Cadaado all the way to Hobyo or it goes From Caabudwaaq to Dhusamareb to Ceelbuur to Ceeldheer to Cadale along the coast or goes from Caabudwaaq to Guriceel down to Beled-Weyne to merge with the central Somali region trade entering through Hiiraan to Jowhar, etc.

But if any of that trade comes from Berbera or the North, even Boosaaso, almost 100% that trade came through Caabudwaaq border with Ethiopia before going south. In fact even Boosaaso port, what is not destined immediately for Galkacyo town separated at Garowe to go through Bookh to Galadi through the Caabudwaaq soft compact road going through Galaadi-Yamaarugley-Duuban-Ceelay-Booso-Bali Abdi Ali-Abudwaaq.


For some who might be wondering why are 3 Xawaadle trucks lying around in Caabudwaaq. Dude, I saw AJUURAAN TRUCKS.I saw Sacad Muuse/NUUX ISMAACIIL TRUCKS, I saw TUNNI trucks. Caabudwaaq is a town of trucks, and trucks, and trucks. Imagine Tunni trucks in Mugdi Mudug? You sit outside for tea at Casbudwaaq city center and every 1/2 of an hour, you will see 1-3 long haul big xamuul trucks either filled with goats or livestock or with badeeco/commercial stuff coming in through the border with Ethiopia or coming into Caabudwaaq from the south or east through Dhusamareb.

Caabudwaaq waa meel yaab leh wallahi.

It is sort of like the "American heartland."

When the most powerful people in the world like Bush and Cheney leave Washington D.C, they go and retire in their ranches or farms in the rural heartland.

Abudwaaq has the most disproportionately rer Magaal citizenry, but have completely retired to their heartland and simpler way of doing things. This guy next to you could be talking to his grandsons and camel drivers about where his flock of camels he bought since coming back were last seen grazing. Waxaa la oran "Libaaxseexay" ama "Abda Caale" sii marayeen or the young Aaran have reached Raqo and then all of a sudden drinking tea listening, he whips out his sell phone and is speaking English to a contractor at Berbera port about exactly when his trucks transporting a consignment for "Baxdo" will be sent off.

Wa cajiib meeshaas wallahi.

Mojoka, they are not even poor wallahi. Caabudwaaq per capita has more diaspora and sees more remittances than probably any other town Somalis settle and probably has more hard asset to any teenagers name too. There isn't a boy who has reached 10, that doesn't have 10 camels to his name and nowadays like big town boys want a bajaaj, the Caabudwaaq teen expects a transport van to take part in the trade.

Just this past half year, we bought a booyad worth $20K because too many people wanted to loan one for kin, and my mom made us fork over transport van for a 22 year old cousin of hers because she "promised." He wanted to start his own camel milk business buying daily from Marehan herdsman in the villages between Raqo to Burgeesoole to then go and service the drivers of the trade lines heading to Caabudwaaq through Wardheer. I am told he just started breaking even meaning he is selling enough to pay for his petrol and car upkeep and spenditure. I am following carefully to see his trajectory and at what point he starts making good profit. This is potentially something to replicate.

Disrupting that trade from Caabudwaaq is going to displease a lot of communities if the guys in Beled-Weyne do not rectify this with "xaal."
Once again, Somalia does not produce. It does not manufacture. There is no virtual material "production" of any kind. The only two commercial trades are water bottling and the tuna canning---neither of which is really a materially significant "industry." It is really basic subsistence or supply to cover the existing demand.

Except for telecommunications amd basic service, both of which is saturated and greater in supply than current demand, there is no actual wealth tangibly in Somali hands than---

---THEIR LIVESTOCK PARTICULARLY CAMELS AND BASIC TRADE CORRIDORS.

Marehan is the wealthiest Somali clan in camels the single most valuable livestock ($890 is the price of a she-camel) and is in control of more trade corridors than any other Somali clan in the entire Horn (Caabudwaaq and to a lesser extent Balanbale for north/south trade, and Luuq, Dollow, Beled-Hawa, Ceel-Waaq, and Gerileey-Diiffor Somalia to Ethiopia particularly to southwen Ethiopia in Bale and Sidama and Somali-Nageyle, Somalia-Mooyaale, Mandera Triangle/Kenya trade.

In fact, Marehan is in control of 6 very profitable customs points, 3 each with Ethiopia and Kenya;

Ethiopia;

1. Caabudwaaq
2. Balanbale
3. Luuq-Dollow

Kenya

4. Beled-Hawa
5. El-Waq
6. Geriley-Diif

Everyone of those trucks is paying $800 in entrance and exist fees in Caabudwaaq customs.

What number of municipalities in Somalia is bringing in thousands of 💵 per hour in outside currency day in and day out 365 days a year?

You know nothing about Marehan.

Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:46 am
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
Nolol cusub wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:45 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:05 am I hated the ‘77 war. Hyenas won’t dare attack lions. That’s why I am different than my father. From 9:15-9:45


Back in the day when Somalia was run by weak, lazy, coward and incompetent men.
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He was an autocrat. I wish he didn’t invade Ethiopia. If he didn’t, we’ll still be the most dominant military in sub Saharan Africa

Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:36 am
by KacdoonSool
If that is the truth he is getting payed that makes him way more intelligent than of all us idiots combined we have been doing this for free for decades the joke is on you hutuboy :lol:

Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:52 am
by skywalker25
Gubbet wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:29 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:59 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:47 am Yusuf, I expect the shimbirayahoow hees from Mohoka, but indeed you are a surprise. At the least understand stalking cyber detractor probably is taking inspiration from you first noticing "why" I utilize this forum to which I was the first to agree amd concur. It is why I found Nolol Cusub's enter effect irrelevant. Yes, I utilize this forum entirely for me and my community. Literally.
I wonder on what grounds your claim is based that mareexaan has the highest quality of life among all faaraxis. :lol:
I gave the source.

I will give you one example based on scientific metrics.

Do you know the perception of "Gedo" as "food insecure" or "drought" or "humanitarian taxed.?"

This is a very wide public perception right because of the cyclical, rolling news campaigns?

"Gedo" according to FEWS and the UNOCHA (Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs) is one of the MOST food secure regions in Somalia.

It is more food secure than all of Somaliland, all of Puntland, all of Galmudug, all of the northwern belt of the interreverine from Hiiraan to Bakool.

In fact Gedo is the "4th" most consistently food secure and less "humanitarian taxed" regions over the last 20 years.

It has only Lower Jubba (capital Kismaayo), Lower Shabelle(Marka), and Middle Shabelle Regions (Jowhar) of Somalia that are more food secure.

The reason for that public perception is Gedo, in particular Dollow, is the biggest IDP relief center anywhere in Somalia. It would in fact be the biggest "refugee camp" if it were counted as such.

The road from the interreverine heartland from Baidoa and Buurhakabo into Gedo Region entering through Yurkud is a virtual " trail of tears."

That entire swath hugging the Luuq or Garbahaarey road to Baydhabo is severely taxes because it is a lifeline for IDPS heading to Dollow Camps.

It you had ever watched the frankly speaking Taliye Shub ever talk about it you will understand that "Marehan" of Gedo are really "humanitarian angels" for the folks ok using that lifeline heading to the Dollow Camps. The MX Gedo folks are feeding, sheltering, and sharing with tlthe constantly moving IDP streams what they have in their own homes even.

Let's see if you can come across this information about the food security of regions using the sources I referenced (FEWS network and UNOCHA).

So sxb Marehan has a remarkable presence among the former Somalia full of very complicated and complex circumstances.

For example those kids in Caabudwaaq that look like that and clearly getting the education putting them consistently at the top of Somalia---one would be surprised since Caabudwaaq is a "remote" dusty town in central Somalia, correct?

Caabudwaaq metro (mX connected to it from the landscape) probably has the same number of "camels" as the rest of entire central regions combined at the least if not betweem Qoroxeey to the coast.

Those kids are wealthy per capita relative to most of Somalis and their education is bought with money.

The same as Gedo Region.



Gubbet and his fantasies on the WWW is so far away for reality....

:lol: :lol:

Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:45 am
by Gubbet
Explain to me in your own words the relevance imparted by your post

Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am
by Gubbet
Cliffs from Video;

  • Beled Hawa is an important market for a 3-way border (Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya)
  • Beled Hawa is a cheaper source for essential foodstuffs like salt, sugar, etc
  • Buyers from a wide region in southern Ethiopia-N Kenya are linked to venders in Beled-Hawa furnishing these supplies
  • Beled Hawa uses Berbera and Bosaso ports to import these foodstuffs because they cost less than Mogadishu port due to insecurity and checkpoints
  • Berber/Bosaso-Beled Hawa = $8 X; Mogadishu-Beled Hawa = $13 X


He posted a video I would use as evidence for the exact statement of mine he quoted, but the way he used it leads me to believe he was under the impression it is the inverse :?:

You do this all the time man.

And FYi, I have said more than once Marehan even in Gedo used Berbera Port and even explained that Hargeisa and Somaliland is closer to Beled-Xawa than say "Mudug."

Beled Hawa to Galkacyo = 690 kms

Beled Hawa to Hargeisa = 610 kms

And keep in mind once you pass Dolo Bay Ethiopia, you hit real.good Ethiopian paved road unto Hargeisa

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Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:45 am
by Gubbet
Another irony is how many times have I said that "iririzing" Berbera port is one of the dumbest business mistakes Isaaq can make seeing as since Cruttenden's observations in 1840's to now, almost 200 years of modern recorded trade in our hands---"Marehan" is one of the singularly and uniquely most important business clients of Isaaq regarding use of Berbera Port.

Gubbet wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:25 pm
Cruttenden akhri oo Ingiriiski akhri, nimankaa Harti Bender Qaasim ayeey awalba ilaashanaayeen, Berbera lama galaan ayeey ahayd sanadka intiisa badan oo kuleeylaha ayaaba waxa u dhawaada heat stroke ku dhalin jiray, hal xili ayaa la camiri jiray iyaduna Indian Banians ba khasbay oo Mareexaan iyo Ogaadeeen xoolahooda iyo malmashooda sugayeey malmalsha siiba Mareexaan waayo tiinaan waqooyi nafi ma lahaynba, Hawiye jiritaankiisaba miidnaan aqoon warna kamiidnaan hayn inagaad akhbaar naga warsan jirteen Indian Banianska inagoo raadinaya allaw nin aan wax ogeeym ha cadaabin,


We never really switched over to Mogadishu or even Kismaayo port. Remember we are historically and cultural-dispositionally a "northern" clan under the recently gained southern exterior. We are spiritually an interior or Hawd plateau clan and frame of reference was beamed looking from north. Marehan is today servicing Nageyle to Isiolo and Borana and Samburus from the northern ports we still imagine is a few leagues walk.

And Yusuf wanted to mix business with Iririya shenanigans. Caku HJ, war Sacad Muuse faraha uga qaado arrimaha ku saabsan Berbera waliba ka reeba Muuse Biixi's reer Samatar iyo reer Liibaanka waa badawda Sacad Muuse kuwaas HJ laba daqiiqo dhiman :ufdup:

Re: How Haraadiga Barre Lost the Civil War, the Economy and now…

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:32 am
by skywalker25
Gubbet wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:45 am Another irony is how many times have I said that "iririzing" Berbera port is one of the dumbest business mistakes Isaaq can make seeing as since Cruttenden's observations in 1840's to now, almost 200 years of modern recorded trade in our hands---"Marehan" is one of the singularly and uniquely most important business clients of Isaaq regarding use of Berbera Port.

Gubbet wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:25 pm
Cruttenden akhri oo Ingiriiski akhri, nimankaa Harti Bender Qaasim ayeey awalba ilaashanaayeen, Berbera lama galaan ayeey ahayd sanadka intiisa badan oo kuleeylaha ayaaba waxa u dhawaada heat stroke ku dhalin jiray, hal xili ayaa la camiri jiray iyaduna Indian Banians ba khasbay oo Mareexaan iyo Ogaadeeen xoolahooda iyo malmashooda sugayeey malmalsha siiba Mareexaan waayo tiinaan waqooyi nafi ma lahaynba, Hawiye jiritaankiisaba miidnaan aqoon warna kamiidnaan hayn inagaad akhbaar naga warsan jirteen Indian Banianska inagoo raadinaya allaw nin aan wax ogeeym ha cadaabin,


We never really switched over to Mogadishu or even Kismaayo port. Remember we are historically and cultural-dispositionally a "northern" clan under the recently gained southern exterior. We are spiritually an interior or Hawd plateau clan and frame of reference was beamed looking from north. Marehan is today servicing Nageyle to Isiolo and Borana and Samburus from the northern ports we still imagine is a few leagues walk.

And Yusuf wanted to mix business with Iririya shenanigans. Caku HJ, war Sacad Muuse faraha uga qaado arrimaha ku saabsan Berbera waliba ka reeba Muuse Biixi's reer Samatar iyo reer Liibaanka waa badawda Sacad Muuse kuwaas HJ laba daqiiqo dhiman :ufdup:
Berbera is not closer to Beled Xaawo than Mudug. Because that would make me closer to your Gedo tribesman than you :shock:


Gubbet, you live in a fantasy world sprinkled with a little half truths. To give you a dose of reality. Commerce does not have ideological attachment. Its purely based on profit and how much the said individual can make from the particular deal. To give you a example, and this will dismiss your whole essay above. We (HJ), WHO are isaaq and from Berbera, were using Bossaso port during the 2000's. This was because Bossaso at the time was cheaper than Berbera. How you can sit there and convince any rational person that because you tribe has some historical association with the north you would prefer Berbera makes zero sense.

As for the sly little dig waa caadi