THE BRUTAL, BRUTAL, BRUTAL TRUTH ABOUT WHY IDOORS ARE STUCK TO SL

[mahoka]

Like 99.99% of society you think revenue is what a company makes or it's worth.

No,

Revenue - Production = (Revenue - Production) - Operations = Revenue - (Production + Operations) = Revenue - Expenses = Earnings - Obligations= Profit + all cash flow = Net worth

Revenue is all the mone Dahabshiil tansacted.
Production is the money Dahabshil paid in transferring xawala (money paid to wire from A to Z to financial companies and banks).
Operations is money paid to employees working the transaction.
Expenses is production + operation added together.
Earnings is expenses subtracted from revenue.
Obligations are taxes paid to Somaliland, Somalia, Kenya, etc where transactions occur + obligations in income tax to Somaliland.
Profit is gross income after obligations are subtracted from earning.
All cash flow is money gained from investments minus all debt liability.
Net worth is Gross income + all cash flows (even if negative).

Somaliland's government taxes earning, what Dahabshiil actual makes is profit. What the business is worth in relation to compare/contrast with what you gain from Dahabshiil vs what Dhulbahante gain from Buhoodle customs is net worth.

Dahabashiil is not a very profitable company. None of the "remittance" or really all of the "service industry" really are.

They just fulfill a needed demand.

Buuhoodle has 0 expenses and obligations and debt and really any production costs.

They just tax goods passing by them.

Buuhoodle customs makes more profit for Dhulbahante than Dahabshiil does for Somaliland.

Saw mareexaan wadaniya ma tihid ? Anna saw iima taqaanid soomali diid. Caasimada ummada soomaliyeed bal tower kaaga halaga dhex arko Anigu kaygii waan wadaaye. Car bal horumar igula tartan anoo habarjeclo ah.

Ceeb weeye ha xanaaqin. Somalidiid anigaa ba ah.


P. S. You would be surprised.

Gubbet even though our friend yusuf is a bit upset we can’t deny his points when it comes to ecenomic contribution that different clans offer.

Going forward we are having a system in Somalia were those that contribute the most will get the biggest benefit - this is the system we should’ve adopted from day one - it’s the system every nation is built on but due to our lack of education, lack of world insights we started with sun defined systems of governance


It’s the reason I am a big supporter of mr hsm - look at how he handled the oil exploration task - those that want to develop will be allowed to develop, those that don’t wish to take part will be allowed to do so. This is what scares most Somalis

[FarhanYare]

Mahoka became a unionist

[original dervish]

Mahoka became a unionist

The calamitous defeat of the iidoors should spark a serious political debate across sl.

So far it's been illegal to wave the Somali flag.....let alone support unionism. This has to change for an honest and frank debate to take place.

I believe the north south power sharing agreement can still work. Obviously there will have to be some changes withing the north, ie an east/ west Confederate north.
Where the north remains a single political entity, while having a fully autonomous Eastern region.

I think the hagites would go for it.....as they don't want to see another Darood federal state. The iidoors will still want to retain the distinct northern political entity. The Dhulbahante/ Warsangeli will want their autonomy guaranteed in any new constitution.

[Faisalali]

Somalia wax Ku darsada ama lugooyada kala taga sidayada daarood aw. Nuxurku waa intaas. AF iyo calool baad tihiin Markii wax la cunayo uunba laydin arka , cashuur ta bixiya ciidanka wax ku darsada. Ixtiraama madaxda hawiye ee aad caayeysan illeen hooyadiin wax umay dhiibane, wallet Ku lahaa , ilaahaw muu EVC Ka dhigto ma cidaan tolkii ahayn baa cashuur u keenay.

Wadaninimadu waa wax isku darsi , wax wada cun maaha.

War geedyahoow nahaabka ah you have done nothing but get fat off of eating Harti portion of humanitarian aid, producing and growing nothing of your own, which is the only thing making you jump around like lax kaniini cabtay so for you to lecture to anyone about entitlement is dark irony/satire being the definition of AFAR GACMOOD ABAAR KADARAN (insatiable greed is like famine; it leaves nothing!)

Kuwaas dhulmahante iska dhaaf waxanu Ka cunee anagaaba billions Ku khasaaraynay. Horta xagaad Ka keenteen dhaqankan xun ee Shisheeye isku halaynta ah. Cidad leedahay waxbay noogu kiin soo dhiibeen ma ayeydiin baa dhashay. Haday berriba goostaan gaaladu dhaqaalaha , maxaa kaaga meel yaal. Anagu weligayo kumaanu xisaabtamin deeq shisheeye. Daaroodaw joojiya dhaqan xumada , dawarsi dawlad nimo laguma dhiso. noqda dad cashuur bixiyaala, madaxwaynihiina Ku taageerara dagaalka alshabaab.

Fidno abuurkana yareeya.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm leaving in a fake movie world. How can you lie to yourself like this? Majority of what you own today and how you make money is because of the Somalia state and especially BARE AUN. Barre built you the Berbera port and Hargeisa airport. You haven't even done much to improve it. Name brand Garaxijis even Swear Barre Gave AFFIRMATIVE ACTION to reer Waqoyi especially Idoors such as TAX FREE. As for your population your the same population as "Harti in PL&SL" Combined. Your Majority in Berbera, Hargeisa and slightly in Burco. And we're not even counting reer Gaboye, Samaroon and other minorities such as oromos who reside in those cities. Barre used to TAX the soviets $80 million a year in the 70S which adjusted for inflation would be A LOT today. While DP world gave you only 30 million lease for 30 YEARS!

[theyuusuf143]

War geedyahoow nahaabka ah you have done nothing but get fat off of eating Harti portion of humanitarian aid, producing and growing nothing of your own, which is the only thing making you jump around like lax kaniini cabtay so for you to lecture to anyone about entitlement is dark irony/satire being the definition of AFAR GACMOOD ABAAR KADARAN (insatiable greed is like famine; it leaves nothing!)

Kuwaas dhulmahante iska dhaaf waxanu Ka cunee anagaaba billions Ku khasaaraynay. Horta xagaad Ka keenteen dhaqankan xun ee Shisheeye isku halaynta ah. Cidad leedahay waxbay noogu kiin soo dhiibeen ma ayeydiin baa dhashay. Haday berriba goostaan gaaladu dhaqaalaha , maxaa kaaga meel yaal. Anagu weligayo kumaanu xisaabtamin deeq shisheeye. Daaroodaw joojiya dhaqan xumada , dawarsi dawlad nimo laguma dhiso. noqda dad cashuur bixiyaala, madaxwaynihiina Ku taageerara dagaalka alshabaab.

Fidno abuurkana yareeya.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm leaving in a fake movie world. How can you lie to yourself like this? Majority of what you own today and how you make money is because of the Somalia state and especially BARE AUN. Barre built you the Berbera port and Hargeisa airport. You haven't even done much to improve it. Name brand Garaxijis even Swear Barre Gave AFFIRMATIVE ACTION to reer Waqoyi especially Idoors such as TAX FREE. As for your population your the same population as "Harti in PL&SL" Combined. Your Majority in Berbera, Hargeisa and slightly in Burco. And we're not even counting reer Gaboye, Samaroon and other minorities such as oromos who reside in those cities. Barre used to TAX the soviets $80 million a year in the 70S which adjusted for inflation would be A LOT today. While DP world gave you only 30 million lease for 30 YEARS!

Berbera laba kun oo sano kahor bay camirnayd isaaq oo aan jirin , malao baa la odhan jiray orod giriiga xitaa soo waydii. Maaha wax afwayne noo dhisay. Intay habarjeclo Ka dhistay last 10 years baa walaahi Ka badan wixii dawladihii kala danbeeyey oo dhan noo qabteen.

[Gubbet]

Beled-Xaawo brings in more foreign currency than entire Somaliland (minus Berbera port).

[skywalker25]

Gubbet, go do a drug test sxb. You have never been Buhoodle or Togdheer. But in your little head you assume that if A) Wajaale brings this profit, then B) Buhoodle most also be doing aswell.

But your conclusion is one based on cuqdaad formula not applicable in the real world. What anyone with common sense knows is that minimum business is done between southern Somalia and Somaliland. Maybe a few fruits and or a few livestock. Nothing else. What do you base this conclusion that Buhoodle is Singapore. Don’t be stupid or act like you know that which you know little about. Writing essays in this forum will not change the facts on the ground. The Hart are a net minus for Somaliland as you are to Somalia.

Beled xawo the poster child for poverty as some how rich. Don’t make me bring up picture of this Dubai. Wallahi you’d get laughed at in real life.

[Faisalali]

Kuwaas dhulmahante iska dhaaf waxanu Ka cunee anagaaba billions Ku khasaaraynay. Horta xagaad Ka keenteen dhaqankan xun ee Shisheeye isku halaynta ah. Cidad leedahay waxbay noogu kiin soo dhiibeen ma ayeydiin baa dhashay. Haday berriba goostaan gaaladu dhaqaalaha , maxaa kaaga meel yaal. Anagu weligayo kumaanu xisaabtamin deeq shisheeye. Daaroodaw joojiya dhaqan xumada , dawarsi dawlad nimo laguma dhiso. noqda dad cashuur bixiyaala, madaxwaynihiina Ku taageerara dagaalka alshabaab.

Fidno abuurkana yareeya.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm leaving in a fake movie world. How can you lie to yourself like this? Majority of what you own today and how you make money is because of the Somalia state and especially BARE AUN. Barre built you the Berbera port and Hargeisa airport. You haven't even done much to improve it. Name brand Garaxijis even Swear Barre Gave AFFIRMATIVE ACTION to reer Waqoyi especially Idoors such as TAX FREE. As for your population your the same population as "Harti in PL&SL" Combined. Your Majority in Berbera, Hargeisa and slightly in Burco. And we're not even counting reer Gaboye, Samaroon and other minorities such as oromos who reside in those cities. Barre used to TAX the soviets $80 million a year in the 70S which adjusted for inflation would be A LOT today. While DP world gave you only 30 million lease for 30 YEARS!

Berbera laba kun oo sano kahor bay camirnayd isaaq oo aan jirin , malao baa la odhan jiray orod giriiga xitaa soo waydii. Maaha wax afwayne noo dhisay. Intay habarjeclo Ka dhistay last 10 years baa walaahi Ka badan wixii dawladihii kala danbeeyey oo dhan noo qabteen.

Of course you'd deny Barre building and modernizing Berbera and Hargeysa airport. Yet, after he left, you barely touched it. Every Somali who isn't munaafiq knows this and he also used to charge soviets 80 Million a week while heego has given it to DP world for 30 million for 30 years. Such as shame walahi! 2000 years kulahaa. Offcourse berbera was functional back then it's what strategic port. That's not what I said stop changing the topic. We're talking about the building and modernization of Berbera.

[skywalker25]

Nin Boon ah we will never talk about building anything. You have no state today. In Gedo you are ruled by Ahmed Madobe and in Galmudug HG. You, yourself do not have a single maamul. You are exactly like aborigines in Australia. Walking the wilderness like some wild dog.

What the hell you know about Berbera or the north. It existed in its own merit before you even left for the South. Berbera pre dates majority of your land. Let alone Barre. He built nothing it was all built by the west. It wasn’t money out of his pocket my boob friend. The west told him that it is a strategically importantly location, just as the Arabs are investing today, even though Somaliland on paper is not a country.

Wallahi I can see why your regions are the most backward uncivilised parts of Somalis. It’s simply because you are all jaahils even the ones with masters degrees from prestigious universities. I’ve only ever seen one sane Marexaan on this forum in all my time and you chased him out. The rest I’m not sure if they’re trolling or being serious.

[original dervish]

Gubbet, go do a drug test sxb. You have never been Buhoodle or Togdheer. But in your little head you assume that if A) Wajaale brings this profit, then B) Buhoodle most also be doing aswell.

But your conclusion is one based on cuqdaad formula not applicable in the real world. What anyone with common sense knows is that minimum business is done between southern Somalia and Somaliland. Maybe a few fruits and or a few livestock. Nothing else. What do you base this conclusion that Buhoodle is Singapore. Don’t be stupid or act like you know that which you know little about. Writing essays in this forum will not change the facts on the ground. The Hart are a net minus for Somaliland as you are to Somalia.

Beled xawo the poster child for poverty as some how rich. Don’t make me bring up picture of this Dubai. Wallahi you’d get laughed at in real life.

Skywalker.......Tukaraq was already the second most lucrative customs point in sl. There were plans to build a dry port. This is fact sxb.

As for Buhoodle.......it is a border town that straddles the Ethiopian frontier. Darood have great plans for this quiet backwater.

All Darood Ethiopian trade will be directed through Buhoodle and then into SSC, PL, GM, and further.
All Darood livestock, which make up the majority of Berbera exports, will no longer be routed through Burco/ Berbera. It will be routed through Lascaanood/Garacad/ Bossaso.

SSC has plans to fully develop its newly liberated vast lands and territories. Agriculture, tourism, health, education, resource extraction will all be developed Inshallah.

We're not concerned with anything sl.....we're not competing etc. We are economically divesting and boycotting sl.

[theyuusuf143]

Bring the evidence from somaliland or puntland ministries of finances. Tukaraq or any qurjiile land never contributed anything to somaliland or puntland. You don't even have businessmen who invested any where in somaliland or puntland. Reer gaajo ah baad tihiin oo kunool laba lafood oo midna isaaq u tuuro midna majeerteen. Laftayadii uunbad wayday. Weliba laf weyn bay ahayd oo la feenfeenan Karo.

[Faisalali]

Nin Boon ah we will never talk about building anything. You have no state today. In Gedo you are ruled by Ahmed Madobe and in Galmudug HG. You, yourself do not have a single maamul. You are exactly like aborigines in Australia. Walking the wilderness like some wild dog.

What the hell you know about Berbera or the north. It existed in its own merit before you even left for the South. Berbera pre dates majority of your land. Let alone Barre. He built nothing it was all built by the west. It wasn’t money out of his pocket my boob friend. The west told him that it is a strategically importantly location, just as the Arabs are investing today, even though Somaliland on paper is not a country.

Wallahi I can see why your regions are the most backward uncivilised parts of Somalis. It’s simply because you are all jaahils even the ones with masters degrees from prestigious universities. I’ve only ever seen one sane Marexaan on this forum in all my time and you chased him out. The rest I’m not sure if they’re trolling or being serious.

No leader pays anything form it's pockets. But name brand Idoors especially Garxaajis do admit Baree Gave tax incentives to Idoors, Built and Modernized Berbera and Hargeisa airport. Heego rented this strategic Port for only $30 million during silaanyo while Barre used to charge Soviet 80 million adjusted for inflation would be a lot today. You haven't contributed to any of Barre Infastructure.

You leaders are begging today and are horgaals for Ethiopia, UAE or others. Today Haegeysa has lower quality of living and was even admitted by its own Mayor. Is the mayor of Hargeysa lying when he said life was "Better" during Barre?

As for Barre investment in Berbera, you and I know none forced or could force him to do it. Not the west, Idoors or anyone else. But he ignored his own people and built you everything you use and own today. He could've ignored y'all like how dictator Ismaaciil Omar Gelle ignores Djibouti. Remember the reason Allahswt hates Jews is because they were denying his blessings and what he did for them. Allah hates those who are ungrateful!

As for being Jaahil and uncivilized, you have no resources to fight over nor do you practice democracy and rule of Law. Your leaders are doing everything they accused of Barre. At least Barre helped with education, infusteuction, self sufficiency, etc

The last time gurti was elected was back in the early 2000S. You're president just did extension with concession and he waged a war on "his citizens" in Sool. Heego made a pact to never let Garxaajis rule and even forced Garxaajis to go to Gacanlibaax mountain. Only presidents of SL have been Idoors except Dahir Riyaale who was there due to fear of Idoor civil war at that time. The reason Sool left the project was lies, munaafiqnimo, etc So look at yourself before you accuse us for what you are known for.

[skywalker25]

Faisal you seem to be a nice kid who actually questions things rather than a simple sheep.

Sxb, you need to read a bit more in these subject a bit deeper.

Your uncle Barre was nobody special or even talented. He was simply in the right place at the right time. He flew on the peoples emotion for change and their good will. When that well dried up. He resorted to tribalism and brute force to stay in power. When that was finished he set the whole house on fire. He is the single worst thing to have ever happened to them Somali race. The disease call afewyenism is still with us today, undermining any unifying order.

OD, enough with the trolling I’ve entertained your nonsense for way to long.

Me and you next time we speak. We will discuss ne sharing with you the email of the Red Cross and all the other western organisations you so much loved over the past 8 months.

As for turkrag it was in Somaliland, yes. But the goods entering Somaliland. They get taxed in Puntland also, gal mudug too, and all the other regions. Why is tukrag special. What metric do you use for your wild claims. Today Oog is the border town. Will Oog take over tukrag now.