For the Thegoodshepherd regarding constitutionality of Federal States' structure.

[Gubbet]

I think I have highlighted all the challenges facing khaatumo.

I defeated iidoor is not an achievement. So do we. We completely destroyed your faqash government. And we achieved nothing diplomatically. Who the fk do you think you are . You better call all your knowledgeble peaple and develop a sustainable and self sufficient local government. If you are very serious. No one is opening a Pandora's box for you.

We don't want you to bring hawiye into our conflict . Hadaad Cid hoos tegaysaan hartigaaga raac. Horta can you explain why are you against your Harti peaple. Ma caara caaraad Tahay miyaanad xitaa dhiig lahayn horgal yahaw. Intaasoo boqol oo wiilal majeerteen iyo warsangeli ahba laguu sadqeeyey markaasad weli cuqdad u qabta tolka.

This daarood clan is cursed walaahi mareexaan kuna hadh iyo habeen ogaaden bay xiniinyahaya Ka laalaadan . Adeer cudur kiina hala doonina nimankaas Aanu walaalaha nahee hawiye. Way idinku dayan doonaan hadii kale. Qof walaalkii Ka cararaya oo leh soomali baan midaynaya waa wax lagu qoslo.

Daaraad waa Dayuus ka daalimaa Dhib
Mugoow Doombiro Direed Doontay
Inoow Dir u Diidahaa Dantu aheed!

[skywalker25]

The Faqash mindset, and I say this with no ill will, is one of selfish self interest. It is a cancer to anything and anyone Somalia. We cannot ignore that it's a threat. It can come in many forms including and not exclusive to the two most extreme; the belligerent outspoken in your face Dhubahnte or the wobbly wooden almost autistic wouldn't hurt a fly Farmaajo. They all have the unique ability to see themselves as the saviours of Somalia. What Somalia one might ask, and the Somalia they yawn for is the return of Darod military rule.

Gubbet is just another version. He has a signed copy of the book of faqashism.

[original dervish]

My poor dear deluded iidoors......it really warms one's heart to see you despairing at the meteoric rise of the victorious Dhulbahante clan.

I can tell you this for nothing.......we will soon be granted full Federal Member State status inshallah.

There is nothing you iidoors can do to halt our progress.
You gave it your best shot, and suffered a calamitous defeat at the historic battle of Goojacaade.

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[Gubbet]

I think the Habar Habush + Sanaag Garxajis + SSC is a natural fit.

The Habar Awal + Western Habar Garxajis + Samaroon in the West is a perfect fit

Let's be real, the independence project is done. The grieving process hasn't yet fully run its circle but soon there will be closure and the issue for Isaaq will start to pivot away from Harti and within Isaaq.

I now know the northerners so well no one can tell me that Habar Jeclo are more natural to Hargeisa and Sacad Muuse than a Dhulbahante. And Habar Yonis and Sacad Muuse poltiical chasm is no shorter than Abgal and Habar Gidir.

Part of why Yusuf should not find my almost computer like accuracy foretelling the trajectory of the 8 months SSC war is because of the fact this is a very familiar and oft repeated even predictable process in Somali conflict.

I am going to say now parr of Isaaq WILL form a maamul with SSC for the very obvious reasons;

1. They are essentially 1/2 and 1/2 of Sanaag each.
2. One side has Ainaba district in Sool.
3. One side has Buuhoodle district in Togdheer.

You are closer to SSC in accent than you are to Hargeisa, ditto cultural ways, orientation, etc.

At some point you will eventually.

Why do you need another 30 years before accepting the reality?

And if politically choosing different routes as Isaaq is so scary now you will eventually get to a point where---

---FORGET MAREHAN MUDUG BREAKING WITH PUNTLAND DAROD TO HAVE A SHARE IN HAWIYE GALMUDUG BUT EVEN WAGARDHAC, AS A SUBCLAN OF MAREHAN, IN ONE CONTIGUOUS LOCATION HAS PART OF THE CLAN AND TERRITORY UNDER GALMUDUG AND THE OTHER CONNECTED PART IN PUNTLAND.

Politics =/= identity

Isaaq existed before Somaliland. Isaaq will exist after Somaliland.

[original dervish]

I can't see it happening any time soon.
Too much water had passed under the bridge.
These iidoor were committing genocide against us just a few weeks ago for heavens sake.

Sl is teetering on the brink of collapse. The imminent iidoor 3rd civil war will finally put paid to the diabolical secessionist project once and for all.

After that who knows......anything is possible in this world..

Personally, I want nothing to do with iidoor ever again.
Peaceful coexistence only.

[skywalker25]

OD, have you started Sharing you meth with Gubbet. Lately he seems to be fighting you for the most deluded soul on this forum.

Gubbet, you know nothing about Isaaq. You were treated warmly in Hargeisa for a short time but you thought the little you learned was everything. Sxb, you should learn history a little. Go pick up a few Isaaq abwaans or even Darod to get the complete picture. We will, never ever, choose a Darod over Isaaq. It’s blasphemous to even think about it. We ISAAQ regardless what differences we have internally are much more insular people by nature. We will favour one of our own over outsider. Granted we have always treated the Dhulbahnte as an orphan alone in this world but that kindness bit us on our back side. The orphan was infact a sikhran who will not even work with his own Harti brothers. Why after all that would we even share a loaf of bread with them.

Dhulbahnte needs Isaaq for intelligence in state building. They cannot but Isaaq can build. We can build states or businesses. What business does Dhulbahnte have.

No Gubbet we see your faqash plans from a distance. You go build something for your people. You are nothing in Majeertrniya and even less in Galmudug. Charity starts at home.

[Gubbet]

Skywalker,

I don't dispute that is what both you and OD feel now.

I am telling you that is going to be different 5 years from now.

Neither of you can disprove that right now.

[Gubbet]

Wuu wareeray ninkaan

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/3-fm ... st-3800968

Waa dhib wallahi. He saw today the 1st unmistakable clear sign of SSC FMS-hood (Firdhiye officially stating there will be no Dhulbahante Puntland MP seats to contest in Puntland elections) and whatever he felt he ----I don't care for it. I have become so bored by the recurrent Somali Grief bug striking people like him that then makes him want to shift it on to someone else. 🥱 SSC is a Federal state and it is of their doing. Stop attaching your goals and hopes manipulatively on others. if you want a federal state, go and make it. Neither SSC, and even less myself have anything to do with it. Arrivederci. 🤟

[Gubbet]

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/3-fm ... st-3801072

I want to make sure I say this to drill the importance of prioritization----I wish you the best of luck in your goals and vision for your state and equity which is separate and unconnected to me or really SSC.

Your priority is Abgaal in Hirshabelle.

/Prioritization

[Gubbet]

And because not correcting malacculturation is unjust to the whole of society who are burdened by it----for implicating Marehan, Rer Siyaad, or any entity other than my person for my personal thoughts;

Generalka Reer Hiraan (Hawadle/Ali Madahuine),

Abdi Yuusuf waa dad wareersan mana loo jooji doono orod Kenya gala ama gabiil kale sheegta sababto ah 2023 waxa wadaan wax loo dul qaado Karo maahan waxa tahiin dad meel kale laga soo diray

[theyuusuf143]

Skywalker,

I don't dispute that is what both you and OD feel now.

I am telling you that is going to be different 5 years from now.

Neither of you can disprove that right now.

What makes you think habarjeclo will give up hargeisa and berbera. For laascaanood and buuhoodle. I mean seriously. Do you even know how much we invested in here. it's like telling habargidir to leave xamar cadey and marka cadey and stay with their reer caabudwaaq cousins. somaliland is not buulhunguri for the isaaqs. It's our eternal homeland even the name somaliland will never be altered . The none isaaqs can join us or leave us based on Their interests . But the isaaqs are destined to be together in Somaliland.

[BigBreak]

The borders and independence of Somaliland are untouchable

[Gubbet]

And finally, SSC has already been processed because her case is commensurate with Galmudug, the only existing Federal State in breach of the Provisional Constitution regarding what validates a federal state that can be recognized

Galmudug was approved because of "political cooperation" that was based on goodwill. In turn, SSC has been processed because of mutual beneficial return of goodwill. This is how mutually beneficial relationships self-police.

SSC is a done issue. It is a processed case because the laws, customs, and even political settlements underpinning what is the Federal form have implicated SSC's recognition.

And the certificate has been printed today.

[BigBreak]

Only a fool or a (Darod) qabiiliste would compare the legitimate Galmudug with a fake tribal enclave that isn't even part of Somalia aka ex Italian Somalia colony

Xaartumo Esteedh is like a sandcastle & will disappear because it is made up only some parts of Sool plus one single shanty town called Butthole in Togdheer. At least Galmudug is accepted by the entirety of Galguduud region