Why do the Dhulbahante Dislike or Hate the Isaaq , what gives.

[Khalid Ali]

Sxb......you're a snet OG...don't embarass yourself like this. Sl aint never coming back.....we both know this.
Goojacaade is burnt into the souls of the iidoors.

You and your compatriots used to boast openly that SSC was iidoor land, and that the Dhulbahante were your chattels.

We have established a municipality to govern lascaanood that will soon start to collect taxes.
We already receive our share of tbe foreign aid directly.
We doing just fine.......alhamdulilah!

All of Somaliland belongs to its citizens. The Isaaq have a significant influence over certain areas in Sool, particularly in Caynabo and Xudun, while you have control over the districts of Laascaanood and Taleex. The Fiqishini reside between our territories. You believe that your part of Sool can become a federal state under Somalia. I must respectfully disagree, as such an endeavor is impractical. To sustain a state, substantial revenue is required, along with the necessity of encompassing at least two regions or a region and a half, which is not the current situation.

Furthermore, your clan lacks a substantial business infrastructure or a significant number of business owners to support such an undertaking. I recall that many from the Dhulbahante clan, prior to 2007, claimed that Somaliland would have no authority over Laascaanood. Between 2003 and 2007, there were more casualties between Somaliland and Puntland than between Somaliland and the Huwan bandits. Thus, I see no reason why Somaliland should not attempt to assert control over Laascaanood once again. While Laascaanood itself may not hold significant value, it is crucial for us to secure our lands to keep the Walanweyns out, primarily for security reasons.

Additionally, the current municipality can only generate limited revenue. Presently, the salaries of the garaads are paid by Puntland, with 13 garaads requiring at least $2,000 monthly to survive, amounting to $26,000 needed just to sustain them. To free them from Puntland's influence, we would need to assume these payments, which can be arranged.

However, your greatest challenge will be funding the militia, with each man requiring $200 monthly. There are approximately 2,000 militia members currently supported by the diaspora, but this support is not sustainable in the long term. These individuals will eventually seek alternative sources of income.

[BigBreak]

The Huwan terrorists aren't content with merely controlling their tribal enclave in Somaliland's far east but want to serve as cannon fodder for Somalia and Djibouti to end Somaliland's independence full stop

[original dervish]

I can see there are still many iidoors that refuse to accept Dhulbahante self determination.

I would have thought that you would have realised after Goojacaade that we are a major Somali clan. We cannot be forced or dominated by any other clan.

Whether or not our nascent federal region of Somalia succeeds or fails is not your concern.

What I can tell you is that the Dhulbahante, at home and abroad, are very optimistic about the future.
People and investments are pouring into Lascaanood from the four corners of the Earth.

Of course it's not without it's pitfalls. We've just emerged from a major war and attempted genocide. The road forward is still rocky. We are basically where the iidoors were in 1989.

Personally, I will be returning to the Holy city next year, possibly for good inshallah. Finally we have somewhere to settle and thrive. I've never considered moving to Kenya, Ethiopia or Arabia. It just didn't sit well with my soul, moving from one gaalo country to another.

There is no Dhulbahante that has any intention of waging war on the iidoors on anyone's behalf. We want peaceful coexistence between all Somali clans.

[BigBreak]

I hope you're right OD regarding the last sentences but you don't speak for anyone other than yourself and your inner circle

[original dervish]

I hope you're right OD regarding the last sentences but you don't speak for anyone other than yourself and your inner circle

The nascent Khaatumo state has far more pressing issues to address without wasting men and money fighting the iidoor.

As far as sl is concerned we have achieved every military objective. We have liberated our lands and established a new border at Oog.

Khaatumo is now focused on economic development.
We have signed a commercial agreement to utilise the new expanded seaport at Garacad. New customs facilities are being built in Buhoodle to replace Wajaale.
Nobody has the time and energy to chase the pesky iidoors around the bush ffs.

[Khalid Ali]

We harbor no issues with you as long as you maintain your territory and keep your populace within your part of Sool, while we retain ours on our side. However, our primary concern arises when you permit external forces to use your land as a base to destabilize us. This is where complications emerge. We have no objections to your decision to align with your Puntland cousins, the Walanweyn, or to pursue an independent path; that is entirely your prerogative and not our concern one bit . Our principal issue is security, and we do not compromise on that no matter what .

Regarding the economic viability of your nascent state, it is true that the odds are against you for the time being . How ever It is premature to predict the strategies you will employ to generate revenue, but it will undoubtedly be a formidable task and a significant challenge to say the least. Only time will reveal the outcome.

[original dervish]

As I have repeated on numerous occasions, we have no desire for conflict with the iidoors. There is zero chance of harbouring forces to destabilise our own region.

Nobody said being an autonomous region would be easy. However, we are an optimistic people and believe we have as good a chance to succeed as any other people inshallah.

I myself will be travelling back to Lascaanood in the new year, inshallah, to invest and open a business.
We have numerous properties/ land, both commercial and residential that has skyrocketed in value.
During the last ten years of sl occupation Lascaanood was in an economic depression. You couldn't give land away. Today there is a huge real estate bubble.

[BigBreak]

fair enough, good luck

[original dervish]

fair enough, good luck

Thanks sxb.
Hopefully, over time , trust can be rebuilt between our neighbouring peoples inshallah.

[barbarossa]

Good to see beelaha walaalaha ee reer waqooyi coming to a tacit agreement to do away with their exceedingly incendiary rhetoric, as both parties try (to the best of their ability) to adapt to Post-Goojecade world.

[original dervish]

Good to see beelaha walaalaha ee reer waqooyi coming to a tacit agreement to do away with their exceedingly incendiary rhetoric, as both parties try (to the best of their ability) to adapt to Post-Goojecade world.

Indeed.......good reverend. Jaw Jaw is better than war war.

[Khalid Ali]

We have absolutely no issue if you wish to establish yourself as a separate entity, whether called Khatumo, aligned with Puntland or Somalia, or as an autonomous state and entity . We are not compelling you to become part of Somaliland. All we urge is that you do not allow the Walanweyn, our adversaries and your current allies, to use you to target us.

If you desire self-determination and wish to align with Somalia, that is fine. We seek to establish our own nation, Somaliland republic. We can partition Sool, allowing you to go your separate way, and we will go ours. And live side by side in peace.

we also have no interest to shed blood , we want peace

[original dervish]

It's a shame your leaders don't think the same way as you. They have been making threats and belicose statements all over the media.

Is there a peace candidate in the upcoming elections?
I know the Habar Younis are generally against war in the East.