I 100% Stand With Xassan Sh

[Khalid Ali]

HSM is a civilian leader not a military leader. For as long as he keeps the conflict diplomatic i am confident he can keep Ethopia at bay. Though it was a great chess move from the Villa to have the Egyptians involved as that will force Ethiopia to either retreat or double down, Ethiopia is now looking at the threat of a border conflict with South Somalia and even AS moving into K5. A Somaliland recognition by Ethiopia would be a sucker punch, a move that will only excacerbate the regional tensions as FANO and other groups emerge. Unless Ethiopia champions this bid and talks to their allies in getting them Red Sea access, it will go up against stiff bureaucracy. Somaliland is lucky and cursed to be in such a strategic theatre of powerplay. I don't believe the West would endorse expanding the Israeli conflict to the edge of the Red Sea, which would extremely upset the Arabs. We are not in the days of Axum who had European help to invade Yemen and maintain a colony there.

Ethiopia is after it’s interest and so is somaliland

By the axum didn’t conquer southern Arabia with the help of Europeans back then there were no strong Europeans and there are no indication that the Roman Empire was involved in the wars between the axumites and the himriyates the Abyssinians conquered the southern Arabians on their own strength

[skywalker25]

OD,
You are confused, and I understand. You or your people, have never been consistent with anything longer than week.

Take you as a example. You go from insulting Hawiye/HSM to begging him, then back to insulting him. No moral code.

You love and hate the Iidoors because we are consistent for 30 years. We iidoors say what we mean and mean what we say.

God put us on the horn to teach you heathens how civilised people carry themselves.

But what would a qurjile know about honor. I heard raping is a national sport in Las anood, OD?

[theyuusuf143]

Sky


All options are on the table , Ethiopia have no choice other than us ,and Somalia have no choice either but to accept Somaliland or completely loose it . No amount of supporting minorities can change any meaningful thing about Somaliland. As long as isaaq exists , Somaliland will always exist and thrive better than ever before .

Yes on paper it makes sense to be part of this giant Ethiopia. But in reality both Ethiopians and southern Somalis are very uncivilised and and very violent. We should always avoid them when comes to peaple to peaple relationship. It's in our best interest to maintain our uniqueness.

[skywalker25]

HSM is a civilian leader not a military leader. For as long as he keeps the conflict diplomatic i am confident he can keep Ethopia at bay. Though it was a great chess move from the Villa to have the Egyptians involved as that will force Ethiopia to either retreat or double down, Ethiopia is now looking at the threat of a border conflict with South Somalia and even AS moving into K5. A Somaliland recognition by Ethiopia would be a sucker punch, a move that will only excacerbate the regional tensions as FANO and other groups emerge. Unless Ethiopia champions this bid and talks to their allies in getting them Red Sea access, it will go up against stiff bureaucracy. Somaliland is lucky and cursed to be in such a strategic theatre of powerplay. I don't believe the West would endorse expanding the Israeli conflict to the edge of the Red Sea, which would extremely upset the Arabs. We are not in the days of Axum who had European help to invade Yemen and maintain a colony there.

I truly do not understand how Hawiye, cannot see how Somaliland, and extension Isaaq could be an asset as ally, instead of being lead down this dark alley, to satisfy the Darods inherent thirst of Isaaq blood, which will culminating in repeating the war with Isaaq's in the 80's. Are the Hawiye stupid enough not to see the writing on the wall. Because you can claim you were being press ganged into fighting for afwyne all the way through the 80's. But a second time. Just declare you are happy to fight us for no apparent reason than please your Darod masters. That's why when the Darod say "Somalinimo" you jump without thinking and attack who ever they accuse. It's this question of your somaliness which is your weakness. It's the opposite with us. Its precisely because of our somaliness which gives us the confidence to go it alone.

[FarhanYare]

Interesting responses.... but still surprised there hasn't been a southern perspective from a northerner on this issue. This is not a case of darood using hawiye against isaq.. There was a question from dhulbahante lady to farmaajo a while back about ssc and he said i cant answer. So between the two one would argue xsm is most anti sl but this is entirely not to please the darood camp..Am still not sure what perplexed him to be so concerned, maybe he thought the other mamuuls will start making one sided port deals or the innate dormant somalinimo in him came to the front.

[FarhanYare]

Take you as a example. You go from insulting Hawiye/HSM to begging him, then back to insulting him. No moral code.

I normally do not agree with this forumer, but this right here is 100 percent correct.

[skywalker25]

Interesting responses.... but still surprised there hasn't been a southern perspective from a northerner on this issue. This is not a case of darood using hawiye against isaq.. There was a question from dhulbahante lady to farmaajo a while back about ssc and he said i cant answer. So between the two one would argue xsm is most anti xsm but this is entirely not to please the darood camp..Am still not sure what perplexed him to be so concerned, maybe he thought the other mamuuls will start making one sided port deals or the innate domant somalinimo in him came the front.

My point exactly.

You have a deep insecurity about your own somalinimo which is why you always doing the Darods bidding. It's odd master slave relationship. The Darod do not care one bit about Somalinimo. They would happily bring ethiopia to Xamar to Kismayo or happily work for them like a good slave in Kenya or Jigjiga. All while working against Somalilnimo/Somaliwyen. We see the maths aint adding up.

But here you are young farahan telling me about Farmaajo the Faqash. He didn't answer Farhan because while you was sleeping he was sending every single Darod to qatar/turkey/eritrea to how to kill iidoors hutus. Bet you don't agree with that statement. The man wanted to be Calvin Candy and you the good slave.

When will you learn. Somali will never be a country because the Darods want a colony with you as slave and me as waiter. Its that or nothing for them. This somali thing is a tool. Work for your interest. Spend the time and effort you're fighting Iidoors removing alshabab from your lands. Use this Somalia TM to make Hawiye great.

[Khalid Ali]

Sky you can’t reason with the hawiye when it comes to Somaliland many of them believe that they were given sl as a gift this is one facto there is this irrational emotional attachment they have with Somaliland . This one factor it has nothing to do with daarood and isaaq or any other qabil they feel they shoild have a say in Somaliland also because their bunker has no real power to think of they think they should excersise some power over Somaliland , I have really studied their case. The second and third factors are also crazy I will adress them also


The second option why they oppose Somaliland is simply the darood factor they believe that daarood will take their Mogadishu and rule as afweyne did with our isaaq support assistance they think they can’t keep the darood at bay that’s why they. Appease them with prime minister positions the hawiye believe that Mj and marexaan and low iq cagdheer are a formidable force that can take time down. And with out ally’s they can’t fight them off hence they need isaaq they don’t trust rahanweyn and the eeleyes

The last factor has to do with money. They believe that when Somaliland is recognised that they will lose allot of aid money this is a real fear for them .

And the last factor is like the second factor of Somaliland is recognised they will lose bugland and jubbaland. To The second factor and the last factor are some how intertwined

What they don’t know is the daarood is alll but bluff they will never ever leave Mogadishu or declare independence from Mogadishu trust me on that . But hawiye is scared to death of darood taking their Mogadishu and they also scared to death to lose daarood. Wa cajiib


That’s why I always said if Somaliland and Somalia ever come to an agreement it will be with a darood leader in the bunker for he is more confident to adress the issue . Hawiye ka quuso kor iyo hoos ba waloogu sheegey

[FarhanYare]

We should focus on making xamar and other parts shabab free. Somalinimo is a two way street and lets only escalate if Ethiopia only expands its interest in the other parts where calanka somalia ka tagan irrespective of whether or not they hate hawiye even then i still support folks to decide their destiny and not get involved.

[Khalid Ali]

We should focus on making xamar and other parts shabab free. Somalinimo is a two way street and lets only escalate if Ethiopia only expands its interest in the other parts where calanka somalia ka tagan irrespective of whether or not they hate hawiye even then i still support folks to decide their destiny and not get involved.

Thats a good attitude intaasuun yaa culusow fahansiya he is busy removing sl names from airline websites and what not
What he does t know is qalbigayaga kama tirtiri karo Somaliland

Hawiye has nothing to fear from Somaliland we don’t want to rule them nor do we want to take their land
Just to live side by side as to good Muslim neighbours

Laakin hawiye is saying gurigayga qasab igula noolow and I only can have the keys I won’t give u keys to
Leave or enter

Thats hostagenimo Hahaah

[FarhanYare]

bas wayaahay ee gedabursi haloo ogaalado iney ismaamulan hadeey rabaan iney anaga qadaadweyn na racaan siya mamuulkood somalilandnimada xoog mahan just like somalinimo

[Khalid Ali]

since u have trouble with the dir in shabelleada hoose u cayr indha casse i have sweet deal for u u can have all the gadabuursi and i will send them to as u care for their somalinimo qaado and give us the biyo maal iyaga ayanu dedjinayna Borama iyo Awdal

[skywalker25]

Sky you can’t reason with the hawiye when it comes to Somaliland many of them believe that they were given sl as a gift this is one facto there is this irrational emotional attachment they have with Somaliland . This one factor it has nothing to do with daarood and isaaq or any other qabil they feel they shoild have a say in Somaliland also because their bunker has no real power to think of they think they should excersise some power over Somaliland , I have really studied their case. The second and third factors are also crazy I will adress them also


The second option why they oppose Somaliland is simply the darood factor they believe that daarood will take their Mogadishu and rule as afweyne did with our isaaq support assistance they think they can’t keep the darood at bay that’s why they. Appease them with prime minister positions the hawiye believe that Mj and marexaan and low iq cagdheer are a formidable force that can take time down. And with out ally’s they can’t fight them off hence they need isaaq they don’t trust rahanweyn and the eeleyes

The last factor has to do with money. They believe that when Somaliland is recognised that they will lose allot of aid money this is a real fear for them .

And the last factor is like the second factor of Somaliland is recognised they will lose bugland and jubbaland. To The second factor and the last factor are some how intertwined

What they don’t know is the daarood is alll but bluff they will never ever leave Mogadishu or declare independence from Mogadishu trust me on that . But hawiye is scared to death of darood taking their Mogadishu and they also scared to death to lose daarood. Wa cajiib


That’s why I always said if Somaliland and Somalia ever come to an agreement it will be with a darood leader in the bunker for he is more confident to adress the issue . Hawiye ka quuso kor iyo hoos ba waloogu sheegey

This is the leadership perspective not the layman in Xamar who goes ape when Somalinimo or Somaliwyen is mentioned. What drives this irrational response that they even out do the Darod with their reactions. It’s insecurity. They speak pigeon Somali, have very few abwaans, are almost all mixed with Bantu blood and cannot count their abtiris past their 5th Grandfather. I say this with the greatest respect. The other things doesn’t help is. Deep down they know their leaders are lacking in comparison to both Darod and Isaaq. They die like nobody’s business. Nobody counts Hawiye death. Bit like our nigga friends up in America.

Observe how most Hawiye interact with the Darods. They almost always are on the back foot. Reactive instead of being proactive.

[OwQariib]

HSM is a civilian leader not a military leader. For as long as he keeps the conflict diplomatic i am confident he can keep Ethopia at bay. Though it was a great chess move from the Villa to have the Egyptians involved as that will force Ethiopia to either retreat or double down, Ethiopia is now looking at the threat of a border conflict with South Somalia and even AS moving into K5. A Somaliland recognition by Ethiopia would be a sucker punch, a move that will only excacerbate the regional tensions as FANO and other groups emerge. Unless Ethiopia champions this bid and talks to their allies in getting them Red Sea access, it will go up against stiff bureaucracy. Somaliland is lucky and cursed to be in such a strategic theatre of powerplay. I don't believe the West would endorse expanding the Israeli conflict to the edge of the Red Sea, which would extremely upset the Arabs. We are not in the days of Axum who had European help to invade Yemen and maintain a colony there.

I truly do not understand how Hawiye, cannot see how Somaliland, and extension Isaaq could be an asset as ally, instead of being lead down this dark alley, to satisfy the Darods inherent thirst of Isaaq blood, which will culminating in repeating the war with Isaaq's in the 80's. Are the Hawiye stupid enough not to see the writing on the wall. Because you can claim you were being press ganged into fighting for afwyne all the way through the 80's. But a second time. Just declare you are happy to fight us for no apparent reason than please your Darod masters. That's why when the Darod say "Somalinimo" you jump without thinking and attack who ever they accuse. It's this question of your somaliness which is your weakness. It's the opposite with us. Its precisely because of our somaliness which gives us the confidence to go it alone.

Why don't you change your mindset bro? Somalinimo yaa kaa xigo? Are you not the great Isaaq who championed Somaliwayn everywhere and have many talents, if you are a great and noble Somali you should want the ambition to rule all Somalis. But you want a cheesy British outpost just to rub heads with a president in Xamar.

[theyuusuf143]

If you like that ,why don't you surrender to the iidoors In Jilib. Those are the only ones who have the ambition to to rule not only the Somalis but the entire region.