As Longs As You Are Muslim a Kaafir Will Never Accept You!!
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i just wanted to point somethings out in this thread. I understand peoples aggression on DD and Somlight. BUT i DO NOTunderstand the agression on Grant. So far i have never seen Grant causing trouble on this forum. I'm glad Sandeer apologized. so far i have seen him approach people fairly and calmly.
Just my 2 cents
Just my 2 cents
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بسم الله الرØÂمن الرØÂيم
الØÂمد لله والصلاة والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله
وبعد
الســــــــــ عليكم ورØÂمه الله وبركاته ــــــــــــــــــلام
>>The Law26<< talking without knowledge is a dangerous thing!
Allah said next (2:105),
[مَّا يَوَدّ٠الَّذÙÂينَ كَÙÂَرÙÂواْ مÙÂنْ أَهْل٠الْكÙÂتَـب٠وَلاَ الْمÙÂشْرÙÂكÙÂينَ أَن يÙÂنَزَّلَ عَلَيْكÙÂم مّÙÂنْ خَيْر٠مّÙÂن رَّبّÙÂكÙÂمْ]
(Neither those who disbelieve among the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) nor Al-Mushrikin (the idolaters), like that there should be sent down unto you any good from your Lord).
Allah described the deep enmity that the disbelieving polytheists and People of the Scripture, whom Allah warned against imitating, have against the believers, so that Muslims should sever all friendship with them. Also, Allah mentioned what He granted the believers of the perfect Law that He legislated for their Prophet Muhammad . Allah said,
[وَاللَّه٠يَخْتَصّ٠بÙÂرَØÂْمَتÙÂه٠مَن يَشَآء٠وَاللَّه٠ذÙÂو الْÙÂَضْل٠الْعَظÙÂيمÙÂ]
(But Allah chooses for His mercy whom He wills. And Allah is the Owner of great bounty) (2:105).
[مَا نَنسَخْ مÙÂنْ ءَايَة٠أَوْ نÙÂنسÙÂهَا نَأْت٠بÙÂخَيْر٠مّÙÂنْهَا أَوْ مÙÂثْلÙÂهَا أَلَمْ تَعْلَمْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ عَلَى كÙÂلّ٠شَيْء٠قَدÙÂيرٌ - أَلَمْ تَعْلَمْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ لَه٠مÙÂلْك٠السَّمَـوَت٠وَالأَرْض٠وَمَا لَكÙÂم مّÙÂن دÙÂون٠اللَّه٠مÙÂن وَلÙÂيّ٠وَلاَ نَصÙÂير٠]
(106. Whatever a verse (revelation) do Nansakh (We abrogate) or Nunsiha (cause to be forgotten), We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is Able to do all things) (107. Know you not that it is Allah to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth And besides Allah you have neither any Wali (protector or guardian) nor any helper.)
whatever a Muslim might have in the west it is because and only because of the decree of Allah and his mercy, had it been simply kafirs will [without the mercy of Allah which is impossible] then kaafirst would wipe Islam and Muslims from the face of the earth!
But Allah is the creator of All creation and his is keeping them in check w Allhmdulillah.. whatever good anyone might see from a kaafir it is only beucase of the mercy of Allah [Lets be greatful] we can make dua for non-muslims and invite them onto islam, other then that even if any pagan co-worker dies in that state of Kufr we ask Allah that we don’t end up in the same place youm Al akhira, as it is xaraam to make dua for a dead kaafir and Allah promissed them eternal hell !
[يَـأَيّÙÂهَا الَّذÙÂينَ ءَامَنÙÂواْ لاَ تَتَّخÙÂذÙÂواْ الْكَـÙÂÙÂرÙÂينَ أَوْلÙÂيَآءَ مÙÂن دÙÂون٠الْمÙÂؤْمÙÂنÙÂينَ أَتÙÂرÙÂيدÙÂونَ أَن تَجْعَلÙÂواْ للَّه٠عَلَيْكÙÂمْ سÙÂلْطَاناً مّÙÂبÙÂيناً ]
(O you who believe! Take not for friends disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves) [4:144]
keep this verse in mind next time ========>
Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and apostles, to Gabriel and Michael,- Lo! God is an enemy to those who reject Faith. [ Surah Al Baqarah 2:98]
How can we be friends with A kaafir when Allah takes them as an enemy?
Friendships are based on love, honour! Allah did not honour them with islam, and Allah dose not love the moshrekeen and the kafiroon!
Fe Aman Ellah
الØÂمد لله والصلاة والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله
وبعد
الســــــــــ عليكم ورØÂمه الله وبركاته ــــــــــــــــــلام
>>The Law26<< talking without knowledge is a dangerous thing!
Allah said next (2:105),
[مَّا يَوَدّ٠الَّذÙÂينَ كَÙÂَرÙÂواْ مÙÂنْ أَهْل٠الْكÙÂتَـب٠وَلاَ الْمÙÂشْرÙÂكÙÂينَ أَن يÙÂنَزَّلَ عَلَيْكÙÂم مّÙÂنْ خَيْر٠مّÙÂن رَّبّÙÂكÙÂمْ]
(Neither those who disbelieve among the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) nor Al-Mushrikin (the idolaters), like that there should be sent down unto you any good from your Lord).
Allah described the deep enmity that the disbelieving polytheists and People of the Scripture, whom Allah warned against imitating, have against the believers, so that Muslims should sever all friendship with them. Also, Allah mentioned what He granted the believers of the perfect Law that He legislated for their Prophet Muhammad . Allah said,
[وَاللَّه٠يَخْتَصّ٠بÙÂرَØÂْمَتÙÂه٠مَن يَشَآء٠وَاللَّه٠ذÙÂو الْÙÂَضْل٠الْعَظÙÂيمÙÂ]
(But Allah chooses for His mercy whom He wills. And Allah is the Owner of great bounty) (2:105).
[مَا نَنسَخْ مÙÂنْ ءَايَة٠أَوْ نÙÂنسÙÂهَا نَأْت٠بÙÂخَيْر٠مّÙÂنْهَا أَوْ مÙÂثْلÙÂهَا أَلَمْ تَعْلَمْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ عَلَى كÙÂلّ٠شَيْء٠قَدÙÂيرٌ - أَلَمْ تَعْلَمْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ لَه٠مÙÂلْك٠السَّمَـوَت٠وَالأَرْض٠وَمَا لَكÙÂم مّÙÂن دÙÂون٠اللَّه٠مÙÂن وَلÙÂيّ٠وَلاَ نَصÙÂير٠]
(106. Whatever a verse (revelation) do Nansakh (We abrogate) or Nunsiha (cause to be forgotten), We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is Able to do all things) (107. Know you not that it is Allah to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth And besides Allah you have neither any Wali (protector or guardian) nor any helper.)
whatever a Muslim might have in the west it is because and only because of the decree of Allah and his mercy, had it been simply kafirs will [without the mercy of Allah which is impossible] then kaafirst would wipe Islam and Muslims from the face of the earth!
But Allah is the creator of All creation and his is keeping them in check w Allhmdulillah.. whatever good anyone might see from a kaafir it is only beucase of the mercy of Allah [Lets be greatful] we can make dua for non-muslims and invite them onto islam, other then that even if any pagan co-worker dies in that state of Kufr we ask Allah that we don’t end up in the same place youm Al akhira, as it is xaraam to make dua for a dead kaafir and Allah promissed them eternal hell !
[يَـأَيّÙÂهَا الَّذÙÂينَ ءَامَنÙÂواْ لاَ تَتَّخÙÂذÙÂواْ الْكَـÙÂÙÂرÙÂينَ أَوْلÙÂيَآءَ مÙÂن دÙÂون٠الْمÙÂؤْمÙÂنÙÂينَ أَتÙÂرÙÂيدÙÂونَ أَن تَجْعَلÙÂواْ للَّه٠عَلَيْكÙÂمْ سÙÂلْطَاناً مّÙÂبÙÂيناً ]
(O you who believe! Take not for friends disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves) [4:144]
keep this verse in mind next time ========>
Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and apostles, to Gabriel and Michael,- Lo! God is an enemy to those who reject Faith. [ Surah Al Baqarah 2:98]
How can we be friends with A kaafir when Allah takes them as an enemy?
Friendships are based on love, honour! Allah did not honour them with islam, and Allah dose not love the moshrekeen and the kafiroon!
Fe Aman Ellah
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[quote="SoMaLiSiZz"][يَـأَيّÙÂهَا الَّذÙÂينَ ءَامَنÙÂواْ لاَ تَتَّخÙÂذÙÂواْ الْكَـÙÂÙÂرÙÂينَ أَوْلÙÂيَآءَ مÙÂن دÙÂون٠الْمÙÂؤْمÙÂنÙÂينَ أَتÙÂرÙÂيدÙÂونَ أَن تَجْعَلÙÂواْ للَّه٠عَلَيْكÙÂمْ سÙÂلْطَاناً مّÙÂبÙÂيناً ]
(O you who believe! Take not for friends disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves) [4:144]
And another ========>
Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and apostles, to Gabriel and Michael,- Lo! God is an enemy to those who reject Faith. [ Surah Al Baqarah 2:98][/quote]
SoMaLiSiZz
The funny thing is you asked them to give you assylum and become like one of them as a citizen with rights of their nation. On the other side, please don't pick Qura'an ayats out of context like Islamphoebes.
(O you who believe! Take not for friends disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves) [4:144]
And another ========>
Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and apostles, to Gabriel and Michael,- Lo! God is an enemy to those who reject Faith. [ Surah Al Baqarah 2:98][/quote]
SoMaLiSiZz
The funny thing is you asked them to give you assylum and become like one of them as a citizen with rights of their nation. On the other side, please don't pick Qura'an ayats out of context like Islamphoebes.
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Salam SOmalisz
, how are you
? Somalizsis i have i question is that post direct to me or LAw26? BEcause i'm already fully aware of those two verses you showed
IF it is directed to me then allow me to explain something.Sis i don't have kafirs as friends, but i do believe i should treat everyone kindly when it's possible.
? Somalizsis i have i question is that post direct to me or LAw26? BEcause i'm already fully aware of those two verses you showedIF it is directed to me then allow me to explain something.Sis i don't have kafirs as friends, but i do believe i should treat everyone kindly when it's possible.
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[quote="simplicity-"]Salam SOmalisz
, how are you
? Somalizsis i have i question is that post direct to me or LAw26? BEcause i'm already fully aware of those two verses you showed
IF it is directed to me then allow me to explain something.Sis i don't have kafirs as friends, but i do believe i should treat everyone kindly when it's possible.[/quote]
Sister in islam while I was adding something to the post I posted you asked this Quiz.. pleaze read macanto
Allhmdulillah I am well sister in islam ! how about you and your family ?
sister in islam I aslo have not seen anything evil by Grant some muslims says more evil then him may Allah give him hadayah ! Ameen dheh !
Barak Allahuma feekom
? Somalizsis i have i question is that post direct to me or LAw26? BEcause i'm already fully aware of those two verses you showedIF it is directed to me then allow me to explain something.Sis i don't have kafirs as friends, but i do believe i should treat everyone kindly when it's possible.[/quote]
Sister in islam while I was adding something to the post I posted you asked this Quiz.. pleaze read macanto
sister in islam I aslo have not seen anything evil by Grant some muslims says more evil then him may Allah give him hadayah ! Ameen dheh !
Barak Allahuma feekom

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[quote="The Law26"][quote="SoMaLiSiZz"][يَـأَيّÙÂهَا الَّذÙÂينَ ءَامَنÙÂواْ لاَ تَتَّخÙÂذÙÂواْ الْكَـÙÂÙÂرÙÂينَ أَوْلÙÂيَآءَ مÙÂن دÙÂون٠الْمÙÂؤْمÙÂنÙÂينَ أَتÙÂرÙÂيدÙÂونَ أَن تَجْعَلÙÂواْ للَّه٠عَلَيْكÙÂمْ سÙÂلْطَاناً مّÙÂبÙÂيناً ]
(O you who believe! Take not for friends disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves) [4:144]
And another ========>
Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and apostles, to Gabriel and Michael,- Lo! God is an enemy to those who reject Faith. [ Surah Al Baqarah 2:98][/quote]
SoMaLiSiZz
The funny thing is you asked them to give you as a citizen with rights of their nation. On the other side, please don't pick Qura'an ayats out of context like Islamphoebes.[/quote]
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I have never asked any kaafir for assylum and I am not anything like them! spare me your evil Suspicious and nameemah ! xasbana Allah w necmal wakeel cala kol man zalamanaa!
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(O you who believe! Take not for friends disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves) [4:144]
And another ========>
Whoever is an enemy to God and His angels and apostles, to Gabriel and Michael,- Lo! God is an enemy to those who reject Faith. [ Surah Al Baqarah 2:98][/quote]
SoMaLiSiZz
The funny thing is you asked them to give you as a citizen with rights of their nation. On the other side, please don't pick Qura'an ayats out of context like Islamphoebes.[/quote]
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I have never asked any kaafir for assylum and I am not anything like them! spare me your evil Suspicious and nameemah ! xasbana Allah w necmal wakeel cala kol man zalamanaa!
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[quote="SoMaLiSiZz"]
Sister in islam while I was adding something to the post I posted you asked this Quiz.. pleaze read macanto
Allhmdulillah I am well sister in islam ! how about you and your family ?
Barak Allahuma feekom[/quote]
Oh this Thread is a Quiz
Would you like me to answer your questions? I will inshallah if you say yes.
Alhumdulilah everyone is my family is doing well. Thanks for asking
inshallah i hope your family is doing well to
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Sister in islam while I was adding something to the post I posted you asked this Quiz.. pleaze read macanto
Barak Allahuma feekom[/quote]
Oh this Thread is a Quiz
Alhumdulilah everyone is my family is doing well. Thanks for asking
.I hope that you could comprehend and understand what I wrote;
"....Why do I need anyone's acceptance? They all tolerate each other. Tolerance is a two way street, and the best positive way to promote Islam among those types of people as a means of Da'wa is to show them how Muslims are tolerant, kind and respectful. But being arrogant and spitefull towards others will only breed hatred which is the philosophical agenda of SomaliSiz and her group."
What has those two ayat's got to do with mutual respect and tolerance? If you need me to disect the circumstances and the context in which those two ayats were revealed to prophet Mohamed pbuh, I can go into details, but since you are a parrot whom only spews what she learned in a rote form, I will spare you the headache.
If you don't live in the west say so (you fancy Arab culture, do you live in the Middle East?), but we Muslims who live in the west want to positively represent our religion and according exihibit such a positive image of a Muslim. What is wrong with that?
"....Why do I need anyone's acceptance? They all tolerate each other. Tolerance is a two way street, and the best positive way to promote Islam among those types of people as a means of Da'wa is to show them how Muslims are tolerant, kind and respectful. But being arrogant and spitefull towards others will only breed hatred which is the philosophical agenda of SomaliSiz and her group."
What has those two ayat's got to do with mutual respect and tolerance? If you need me to disect the circumstances and the context in which those two ayats were revealed to prophet Mohamed pbuh, I can go into details, but since you are a parrot whom only spews what she learned in a rote form, I will spare you the headache.
If you don't live in the west say so (you fancy Arab culture, do you live in the Middle East?), but we Muslims who live in the west want to positively represent our religion and according exihibit such a positive image of a Muslim. What is wrong with that?
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[quote="SoMaLiSiZz"] I aslo have not seen anything evil by Grant some muslims says more evil then him may Allah give him hadayah ! [/quote]
ARe you saying Grant Says evil things? I read your quote above and that reads like you're saying that. I never seen grant say evil things. Anyways i'll step way from defending Grant.
. I think he is smart enough to defend himself.
salam Sis
ARe you saying Grant Says evil things? I read your quote above and that reads like you're saying that. I never seen grant say evil things. Anyways i'll step way from defending Grant.
salam Sis
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[quote="simplicity-"] I understand peoples aggression on DD and Somlight. BUT i DO NOTunderstand the agression on Grant. So far i have never seen Grant causing trouble on this forum. [/quote]
Islam is not meritorious faith. Grant, like I, is NAJIS -- no can go to Mecca and Medina. Grant, like I, will go to hell. Grant, likek I, is still a KAFIR.
Regardless of our dispositions we nonbelievers will always be seen and judged NOT by what we do (or say) but by what we BELIEF!
Islam is not meritorious faith. Grant, like I, is NAJIS -- no can go to Mecca and Medina. Grant, like I, will go to hell. Grant, likek I, is still a KAFIR.
Regardless of our dispositions we nonbelievers will always be seen and judged NOT by what we do (or say) but by what we BELIEF!
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The Law26, you are disregard whatever you please and interpreter Islam as you please, and you are hoping me to comprehend you comments... Rather far fetched don’t you think!
Your comments are more ‘blessed’ with assumptions then facts Allah blesses whomever he wishes with knowledge and true understanding of Islam, like sister proud muslimah, brother Aimen, brother Nour among many others Masha*Allah that has deep understanding of islam !
Never mind where I live east, west, south or north how dose that has to do with anything! What dose that has to do with what I am talking about! The subject is Islam not me not east west ‘mambo jumbo’ even a small child knows that there are kaafirst around the globe!
the imagine you have of Islam is not correct you argue about obvious things Sobhan Allah.. I strongly advice you to feed your Brain with some beneficial knowledge and Ask Allah to guide you and umat Mohamed sall Allahu Alahy W salam! Stop hating Arabs they are not going anywhere or should I say Muslim Arabs they rest are going straight to hell insha*Allah just like how the non Muslim Somalis are going straight to hell too! w bies Al Maseer!
Always has to make it an Arabic issue Allahul mosta3an upon jahal!
simplicity- yes dear pease go right a head and answer walaale

Your comments are more ‘blessed’ with assumptions then facts Allah blesses whomever he wishes with knowledge and true understanding of Islam, like sister proud muslimah, brother Aimen, brother Nour among many others Masha*Allah that has deep understanding of islam !
Never mind where I live east, west, south or north how dose that has to do with anything! What dose that has to do with what I am talking about! The subject is Islam not me not east west ‘mambo jumbo’ even a small child knows that there are kaafirst around the globe!
the imagine you have of Islam is not correct you argue about obvious things Sobhan Allah.. I strongly advice you to feed your Brain with some beneficial knowledge and Ask Allah to guide you and umat Mohamed sall Allahu Alahy W salam! Stop hating Arabs they are not going anywhere or should I say Muslim Arabs they rest are going straight to hell insha*Allah just like how the non Muslim Somalis are going straight to hell too! w bies Al Maseer!
Always has to make it an Arabic issue Allahul mosta3an upon jahal!
simplicity- yes dear pease go right a head and answer walaale
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[quote="dhuusa_deer"]
Islam is not meritorious faith. Grant, like I, is NAJIS -- no can go to Mecca and Medina. Grant, like I, will go to hell. Grant, likek I, is still a KAFIR.
Regardless of our dispositions we nonbelievers will always be seen and judged NOT by what we do (or say) but by what we BELIEF![/quote]
DD
I have chosen to ignore your rants for last 6-8 months. Enough is enough. DD grant Is far better then you. UNlike him he appraoches us peaceful and i respect him. BUT unlike him,you repeat the same crap over and over again. And try cram it down our throats.
"Grant, like I, is NAJIS -- no can go to Mecca and Medina."
DD l live in a country where i can believe whatever i want to believe and no one harasses me other wise. THere are kind KAfirs out there.BUt when i long on to computer I see you going on and on not respecting who we are. That's how you differentt from Grant and that's how grant is better then you.
Islam is not meritorious faith. Grant, like I, is NAJIS -- no can go to Mecca and Medina. Grant, like I, will go to hell. Grant, likek I, is still a KAFIR.
Regardless of our dispositions we nonbelievers will always be seen and judged NOT by what we do (or say) but by what we BELIEF![/quote]
DD
I have chosen to ignore your rants for last 6-8 months. Enough is enough. DD grant Is far better then you. UNlike him he appraoches us peaceful and i respect him. BUT unlike him,you repeat the same crap over and over again. And try cram it down our throats.
"Grant, like I, is NAJIS -- no can go to Mecca and Medina."
DD l live in a country where i can believe whatever i want to believe and no one harasses me other wise. THere are kind KAfirs out there.BUt when i long on to computer I see you going on and on not respecting who we are. That's how you differentt from Grant and that's how grant is better then you.
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[quote=Somaliizz]the imagine you have of Islam is not correct you argue about obvious things Sobhan Allah.. I strongly advice you to feed your Brain with some beneficial knowledge and Ask Allah to guide you and umat Mohamed sall Allahu Alahy W salam! Stop hating Arabs they are not going anywhere or should I say Muslim Arabs they rest are going straight to hell insha*Allah just like how the non Muslim Somalis are going straight to hell too! w bies Al Maseer! [/quote]
....wow, here we have Somalizzz the nomad muslim, who thinks nonesense from ignorant sheikhs is Allah 's absolute words!! and then...we have law26, the self-defeating man who still thinks Bukhari 's hadiths have divine authority.....I wonder who will win here

....wow, here we have Somalizzz the nomad muslim, who thinks nonesense from ignorant sheikhs is Allah 's absolute words!! and then...we have law26, the self-defeating man who still thinks Bukhari 's hadiths have divine authority.....I wonder who will win here
SomaliLight
Naayaa ka dhex bax Muslimka, they are both smart people. Where is LionHeart when you need him.
SoMaLiSiZz & Law
This no joke, and I both sent you P.M's explaining that Muslims vary and have different intrepretations of many things that don't concern the basics of our Aqeedah. Within the Sunna School of thought we had 4 different schools and differ in many opinions, but always respected each other. Please act like grown ups both of you, and remember to agree to disagree and respect each other like our Shuyuukhs. We should tolerate each other.
Naayaa ka dhex bax Muslimka, they are both smart people. Where is LionHeart when you need him.
SoMaLiSiZz & Law
This no joke, and I both sent you P.M's explaining that Muslims vary and have different intrepretations of many things that don't concern the basics of our Aqeedah. Within the Sunna School of thought we had 4 different schools and differ in many opinions, but always respected each other. Please act like grown ups both of you, and remember to agree to disagree and respect each other like our Shuyuukhs. We should tolerate each other.
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