INA ABDULLE XASAN THE FIRST SOMALI WARLORD

[X.Playa]

Galol,

Ever read the book, by Henry Rayne, the same book was manipulated by Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise for his own Daarood cause. Buuga Taariikhda Daraawiishta is nothing but a copy cat pieces of Daarood excrement made and articulated by our Hayaag old sick man Aw Jaamac Cabdi Ciise and Daahir Af Qarsahe.

Let me quote the book by Aw Jaamac cabdi Ciise in 1919 during the war with the British singed by the Daarood intially in bandar Qaasin by all 3 Daarood tribal chefis to liberate their land from the Dervish with the assistant of the Brits.

In 1919 the facts are:

"Darwiish la yidhaahdo Maxmuud Xoosh, oo aanu galabtaas kula kulanay meeshaas , hadalkiisana la qaban karo, wuxuu yidhi Sayidku galabtaas wuxuu ku joogay faras la yidhaahdo(Dhibic)oo loogu talo galay inuu cadowga kaga baxsado, xoog iyo dheeraynba."

"Abshir Dhoore oo maalintaasi ku joogay faras la odhan jiray Shaluu-maray oo hadba gees u wiifinaaya "

Shaluu-maray

Its funny how when daarood flee they praise their fast horses, Dhibic and Shaluu-Maray, well if u fled u fled be it on a donkey or pretty horse.


The end of 1919 sandkii dayyradaaa:

"dadka galabtaasi lalaayey waxaa ka mid ahaa Xaaji Suudi Shabeelle, Ibraahim Buqul, Obsiiye Seed , Fitawaraari Oo xabashi ahaa, oo dariiqada joogay iyo boqolaal Khusuusidii Daraawiish ka tirsanaa"

Obsiiye Seed Magan and Fitawarari both died fleeing, one ethopian and one is Daarood. Nor more no less. Suudi Shabeel and Ibraahin Buqul both Isaaq held their ground in Taleex castle and they were killed fighting.


Now Daaroods ,.. keep riding ur fast horse after you fart , Shaluu Maray

[Galol]

Xplaya

Turning this mursdering coward into some kind of national hero has been the spin of the Darood run governments since independence. Of that there is ample evidence.

Interestingly taht is not how teh ordinary Daaroods who lived at the time felt: they despised him and cheered his ignomominous defeat as much as teh ordinary Isaqs.

This was mega-spin complete with statues etc. A nation looking for heroes that did not exist was happy to go along with this triblaist agenda.

The facts, teh historical facts speak for themselves: Never `liberated' a village even when the Brits left the whole country at his mercy. Never own a single battle. And ran like bat out of hell from tiny planes that could have stayed in the air for less than 20 mins. There was absolutely no reason why he shouldn;'t have stood and fought like a man. Instead he sought refuge from Bantu Ethiopians(Sanyartii saancad bay noqotee sanweynta allow Sabaalee), offering them his wives as price for protection (Iska qaata naadoba rag bay qaac u shidataaye)

As I said earlier if he was a Somali nationalist indepence fighter as the spin would have us believe why didn't he start the war among his own clan in Ogaden? Why stick his nose in Isaqland? No Daarood will ever be able to answer that. the spin disintegrates.

[ERROR]

Galol, I read Aidid's biography and the economic and government system he wanted to establish (two large volumes) and I am confident to say bbased on his own accounts, I know about aidid's drive and mindset more than most of his followers and foes alike. However, this thread is not about him.

If the person who initiated this thread painted him as a national hero without mentioning his shortcomings, I'd definitely challenge him/her with the fact that he killed more Somalis than the europians did. But, most of people who participated in this topic see things in black and white. He was either the devil or the savior.

Now, u are saying it was darood trying to invade isaqland but many others say he killed more daroods than isaqs. Thus, discounting your argument as weak theory.

Can you name even one person in that region from his era who resisted the europians like he did?

[quote="Galol"]Error

Wil you say teh same about Ceydid then?

And BTW just for accuracy he never kept the Euros at bay. He did not `liberate' a single village.

This was a Darrod attcak on Isaqs, using religion as a cloak, nothing more nothing less. Prove? If he was such a nationalist freedom fighter why didn't he start his war against the Ethiopians in his own home area?

Why stick his humnogous arse in somaliland where his clansmen re a tiny minority?

Yes he was another darood warlord and thankfully we defeated him too.[/quote]

[fagash_killer]

well said galol

[Galol]

Error

Surprised by the coyness regarding aideed. I will ask you again: would you say the same aboutr Aideed given he too resisted foreigners but killed thousands of Somalis in teh process?

The similarities are plain and obvious.

As for Somalilnders not resisting the Brits there was absolutely no need. The Brits were doing no harm although they were not doing much good either.

But that was surely the Isaq's decion? Why would thios guy who comes from a country and clan under far worse colnial power decide to fight on our behalf rather than liberating his own people? It makes absolutely no sense.

And it is true he killed Daroods too, thousnads of them but his arch enemies were Isaqs. He knew his success or failure depended on how the Isaqs react.

What si without doubt is that he was no hero to the Darrood locals either when he died in ignominy in Imey. The lionisation process began in ernest after independence.

[Mad_Dog206]

^shut up u stupid Gaala Madow, we all know where ur axe is coming from. it has nothin to do with anything EXCEPT that Sayid Abdulle Hassan was fightin on the card of ISLAM. u friggin athiest xiniinyo yeelo n say to us u diverage with the Sayid becuz he was a MUSLIM freedom fighter and not because of he said/she said kids fairytale stories no one heard of but u and ur Gaalo Madow self. akhas calayk waxu sharaf yo damiirba ma haystaan.

ask urself why the Sayid is the ONLY leader apart from Ahmed Gurey that 90% of Somalis agree on, base their nationalism on, hang up his picture on every independence day and such u friggin duufle. LONG LIVE ISLAM AND ITS GUARDIANS. DEATH TO GAALO MADOW

[Galol]

mad

He was as muslim as Homer simpson. he was a typical clannist Somali. nothing wrong with that. But he had no rioght in coming to our ends and killing our people. And as I said there was nothing somali about his movement it was based on qabiil.

And he was hated by all the people who knew him at the time. This is Darodist clannsit spin invented during teh 60s and 70s.

BTW another darod warlordm, your uncle also came to a sticky end after he attcaked Isaqs. Darroods should learn not to mess with us or they will be smoked. But at lesat your uncle DID do some good things before he went gaga and named injir-carrying marehans from garbahharrey as amabassafdors and ministers.

Chill Mad dog. I aint no clannist unbrelievable as it sounds. I just hate those who kill their own people for power.

[fagash_killer]

not all faqash do supported him many dhulos refused to take orders like even ogaden and majerteens who welcomed the brittish troops in the north eastern part same with the warsangelis most of them fought against the sayid

[yasmin507]

Sayid Abdula Hassan waz not a warloard but patriotic muslim somali man who only killed those who were eatin' british xaar fagash luva if he killed some of ur family members than they were one of those ppl who were slavez to british. why would i put my somali muslim ppl down and take gaal white men's side that shows some somaliz are brainless. Sayid Abdula Hassan is wellknown respected poet patriotic somali muslim man.

[fagash_killer]

you dont even know ur somali history let alone about sayid i think you only support him cuss of tribes and by the way no need to attack me its just a article i found and i wanted to share with you guys but like always malis are 2 dumb and to ignorant to understand it nowonder why their countrie is fucked up

[yasmin507]

all iam sayin' is that the guy was nationalist and he killed those who were bristish slavez cuz they were discrace and they were puttin' him down. i aint surpportin cuz he is abti but i admire him cuz of what he has done for our great country i woulda kill bastardz who surpport bistishs too

[DamallaXagare]

[quote="kambuli"]Let alone a known Daarood, but those who are suspected to be Daarood or not bashing Darood are attacked in this site..... Remember weerarkii Cirka iyo dhulka ahaa ee la igu qaaday two weeks ago?

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Weerar culus buu ahaa weerarkaas. Anaa kaaga marqaati ah.

[Mowhawk]

I consider Sayid Mohamed may Allah forgive his sins as the father of Somali nationalism. The idea that the colonisers could be fought by organising the public in nationality and religion was worth to consider him as a Somali hero. Offcourse, he has killed many Somalis because most humans who embark in such a mission do make great mistakes too. He was a human being and may Allah forgive his sins and all those Somalis who perished in his wars.

[ERROR]

[quote="Galol"]
As for Somalilnders not resisting the Brits there was absolutely no need. The Brits were doing no harm although they were not doing much good either.[/quote]

Galol, that was not the case! You lied when u said the descendents of Sheik Isxaaq were not disturbed by the europian imperialists who crossed many oceans to dominate us in our own land. In reality, most ppl in era did not like the invaders but the few who could understand world politics at the time chose to serve the euros for simple reason - they fell victim to the divide and rule concept. The ottom line is that you cannot represent the masses when u say no1 had trouble with the european colonization of Afria and much of the world.

Here's a poem by a somalilnder (Maxamed Nuur Langadhe) after he was asked to advertise and promote British perspective of the world war II. The bottom line is that he's saying "I don't give a damn" This man represents the masses.

Mar hadaan gurigayga gidhligaanka gariiriyo
Garnayl loola tagaynin Iglan baa gubanaysa
Maxaa iiga gidhiisha

Gudaha ceelka hargeysa Weligay gees uma dhaafin
Bal maxaa laba gaal oo abtirsiimo gudboon
Midkood aan u gumayn Midna guusha u siin
Maxaa iiga gidhiisha Gudaha ceelka hargeysa
Waligay gees uma dhaafin

Inta aan wax gasiintiyo Intaan gaajo ku seexday
Hadii aan isu geeyo Mala waa isku gow e
Mar haddaan ka gabyay oon go'aygiina ka qaatay
Maxaa iiga gidhiisha


As of Aidid, you are talking about two completely different scenarios. Gen. Aidid wanted to overthrow an existing government and planned that for over 20 yrs. He got his ambition after Mohamed Siad Barre successfully got into power in a bloodless coup. Aidid thought he was superior to Siad Barre in terms of ranks and he deserved the seat. Mr. Aidid's mission was to become a president and he used every possible weapon in his possession including playing the clan card. In his biography, he told his followers that daroods were minority and lived on everyone else. Guess what? the only known darood person he spared was Sayid Mohamed. He portrayed Sayid Mohamed as Somalia's father and he thought he had same characteristics.

Americans came to Somalia to relieve Bay region from man made starvation. Then they and Geberal Aidid rubbed each other the wrong way and the Americans tried to kill or capture him. Then he fought with them, and successfully convinced president Bill Clinton that the best way out of Somalia was a quick withdrawal. Fyi, Aidid was not in the capital when the looting, killing and rape started in the capital and he had no power over armed hawiye clans in the capital. When Said barre left Mogadishu USC was already divided into three. In a recent declassified document, Aidid once met the US ambassador in India and told him his intentions to overthrow Somalia’s government at that time. America did not give him the go ahead and did not warn Somalia that its ambassador to India was everything but Somali ambassador.

Fyi, Unlike most of us here, my arguments are based on what was written about Somalia’s history and conflicts. Read different prespectives about events and u'll see the real picture.

[X.Playa]

Mad Dog, waar ma afkaad ka habaarantay mise meel kaloo huguntay weeyaan?


Error kid,

Facts are in 1899 when the Devrish began their Saalixiya fantasy, there were only mere 6 British in Somaliland, 2 in Berbera, 1 in Zaylac, 1 in karin and 2 in Laas Qori.

At the highest peak in 1935 there were mere 33 British in Somaliland, by the time the Mullah and his gagans were exterminated , there were more British then ever before, infact by 1921 the British contorlled more terriroty and had better pretext then ever before.

This donkey shagging pervert called the Mullah and his 35 Khusuusies did nothing but accumalte welath and each marry over 20 women, this orgy lead to the first majore spilt of the Devrish, after rading the Majeerteen in 1907 and carrying off 30 virgins the Mullah and his right hand theif Cabdilaahi Shixiri fought over a Majeerteen woman and that led to the Mullah been expelled from the Saalxiya movment.


Reading Google won't teach you much kid. You are confusing the Man with the movement and his tribe with the movement. The Devrish had no tribe , they raided the Daarood more then any tribe , 90% of the Mullah's poems were directed against the Daaroods, with exepctions of less then 6 poems to the rest of Somalis.

Doqonimo kali ah ayuu ilaahay ku saliday nimanka Daaroode
Waa ninman sidii dumar haween laga danaystaaye