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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:58 pm
by Demure
[quote="dhuusa_deer"][quote="Demure"]Hinda, He claims Agnostic in other words (Self-Assured...NOT) but his religion is actually to be the Pest to the good muslims of Somnet.[/quote]


What do YOU believe. I've noticed you've been dodging this question, you can PM me if you like. But know full well I WILL use it to DE-fang you.[/quote]

What kind of question is that? I believe in Allah ofcourse you dense kid!

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:03 pm
by dhuusa_deer
Demure, you is a muslim?

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:09 pm
by Gedo_Boy
[quote="avowedly-agnostic"]It is clear from the hadith ladies & gentlement that the prophet was not a noble, and honourable man who respected peoples of other faiths. He wasn't an egalitarian good-doer who implemented justice. The hadith suggests that his character was much more darker and sinsister than the nice, compassionate and caring person he's often painted as.

The hadith suggests that the prophet hated non-Muslims, and despised them all without exception. So much so in fact that he ordered their persecution. Non-Muslims couldn't even walk the streets safely without facing harassment and bullying from his hench men.

These aren't inventions of my imagination (although I wish they were), but rather the honest and sincere truth. Mohammed was (judging from the hadith) a tyrant, and a nasty piece of work who was hell-bent on persecuting non-Muslims to the point where they were made to feel unsecure leaving the security of their homes.

I'll leave you to ponder on his own words: Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you, and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it. “[/quote]




I'll leave you to ponder the futility of your sinister efforts in painting the Prophet (pbuh) as an evil man.

1 billion + and growing from the population of atheists, agnostics, Christians, Jews, Bhuddists (etc).............that should frustrate you forever.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:11 pm
by dhuusa_deer
Gedo-Boy,

Its actually a MISnomer to say muslim pop. are GROWING... I mean you just breeding faster than others. That's not technically growing in the sense you're getting NEW converts.. adults who made the conscience decision to convert to Islam.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:13 pm
by Demure
Well duh!

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:20 pm
by Gedo_Boy
[quote="dhuusa_deer"]Gedo-Boy,

Its actually a MISnomer to say muslim pop. are GROWING... I mean you just breeding faster than others. That's not technically growing in the sense you're getting NEW converts.. adults who made the conscience decision to convert to Islam.[/quote]


It's the fastest growing religion in terms of people converting to it.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:22 pm
by Gedo_Boy
watch/listen the testimonials:

http://www.turntoislam.com/

case in point Exclamation

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:27 pm
by Hinda_Haldha
[quote="dhuusa_deer"]Demure, you is a muslim?[/quote]


Waa addiga oranayee waxay diintadu rux walibee ma atheist doneysey iin lagu yidhah. Waa Cajiib. Bal ninyahow wax ka badal habka qoraalkaaga haddii kale mar danbe laguu jawaabi maayo.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:27 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Demure"]Well duh![/quote]

Well excuse my bemusement but you made some UNislamic comments a while back. If I recall correctly you said religions were man made to controll ppl or something to that effect. Can't blame me for asking if you believe in God or am a muslim after reading what you wrote.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:31 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Gedo_Boy"]watch/listen the testimonials:

http://www.turntoislam.com/

case in point Exclamation[/quote]

Buddy, Islam is like 9th or 8th fastest growing religion in the US (not my numbers but the US government). In terms of converts, over 70% of them leave Islam within a year. In Europe, if you exclude new borns, Islam is losing numbers. My point is, Islam is growing claim has to be put in its proper context... we're mainly talking about new babies born to muslim parents NOT converts.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:33 pm
by Demure
Didn't you ever learn in the Science courses or theories you are so fond of that nothing is ever clear cut?.. At least what I am is not an adherent of black and white, copy and paste theaology Laughing

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:37 pm
by avowedly-agnostic
[quote=Gedo_Boy] I'll leave you to ponder the futility of your sinister efforts in painting the Prophet (pbuh) as an evil man. [/quote]

If I or anyone else were to incite hatred against a particular group of people on the grounds that they follow a different ideology to mine, I would instantly be denounced as a hate-monger and rightly so. So why should Mohammed be any different? He clearly incites his followers to bully and harass Christians and Jews. This is not an attribute of a decent and morally upright man, but rather the persecuting methods employed by ruthless tyrants, gangsters, and thugs.

[quote= Gedo_Boy] (Muslims are) 1 billion + and growing [/quote]

It's all very well and good counting the numbers of Muslims, but are you not overlooking the thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people who are leaving Islam through the back door? Just as many people that have converted to Islam have broken free from the handicapping chains of Islamic superstition. I rather suspect more will reject the fairy tales of their ancestors as time progresses and they are exposed to other modes of thought and philosophy.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:39 pm
by dhuusa_deer
Demure,

Don't change the subject now. Science is very clear cut... its about precision and accuracy. For every single reading I take, I gotta perform error calculation to ACCOUNT for ALL the possible errors that MAY seep into the final figures and these numbers are in the 10^-3 or even smaller most of the time. I don't know if you remember but some time back a NASA rocket blew mid-way up because some scientist screwed up with metric system he used.


But I got what I'm after... you don't believe in anything in particular.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:44 pm
by Demure
Hahaha.... You couldn't resist saying that haye, I almost wrote that bit for you actually "Go ahead and say I believe in nothing now"...You are so predictable. In funny childish kinda of way.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:54 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="Demure"]Hahaha.... You couldn't resist saying that haye, I almost wrote that bit for you actually "Go ahead and say I believe in nothing now"...You are so predictable. In funny childish kinda of way.[/quote]

The truth is sometimes predictive and in this occassion it so happens to be you don't believe in ANYTHING.

Why are you so defensive by the way? I'm not judging you or casting you into some group or the other... you can believe whatever you like but your silly use of pejorative tags and evasiveness raises questions marks. It's uncalled for.

I'm fine by whatever you believe... I'm a natheist, most ppl here are theists, you like to dabble... its all good.

Just wanted to know what you believe since you made contradictary pronouncements. So chill!