Islamic fighters decide to pull back

xoogSADE14 · Post by **xoogSADE14** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:14 pm

kismayo was liberated six years ago and has had an islamic court for about three and half of those years Smile

Post by **AbdiWahab252** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:22 pm

Yet they never put rer Diini into jail ?

Where is the justice

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:23 pm

kambuuli i respect most of ur opnions, and thats what the majorty of somalis thought when he was elected as the president of somalia, but tell me what he did he do for somalis, this is the same idiot like you said created the ssdf in orders of his amxaaro masters, afbijo is seen as the first warlord who destroyed somaliweyn, who excuted alot of good generals who fought the amxaaro, this is the same dude who said somalis waa dad garac ah, he dont even know what politic is atleast abdiqassam salad wax wuu so bartay, abdiqassam salad atleast demonstrated alongside the somalis against amxaaro, all of oure leaders even warlords did agreed with this, afbijo is nothing else than a spy, i should say its time to impeach the president, ore remove him with force

xoogSADE14 · Post by **xoogSADE14** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:29 pm

abdi hutu

the first man to be qasaased (executed) by the Colonel's orders was a reer xasan koshin man.

eyes-only · Post by **eyes-only** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:29 pm

Abdi war ha is waalin doqonyahow.

The Islamic courts are supported by the sacad as well as the other clans. The people leading the battle were sacad supported by other clans including as you mentioned murusade, abgaal and ceyr etc etc. The Islamic courts are trained to operate like a military. They do not operate as a clan militia as you claim. The leader of the battle with the sacad moroyaan was sheikh Al-Mansour who is not ceyr and who is one of the strongest military commanders in the Islamic courts. Whatever you want to believe, the ceyr are just supporting what every other clan in Muqdisho is supporting. And that is peace and stability.

Kismaayo is controlled by both ceyr and mareexaan as IÂ’m aware. Again the Islamic courts only wage war with those that attack them, the rest they solve with diplomatic measures. They do not need to attack anywhere unless they are attacked from those regions. The administration in Kismayo is unlikely to attack the Islamic courts and therefore the Islamic courts will not attack Kismayo. The same goes for the other administrations.

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:35 pm

Walaal, Faqash Killer,

Did you really killed Faqash(Daarood) or is just a name? If you really killed them then I would not expect you to spare Ina yey Laughing

Just kidding (Kaftan)..

Let me response your question seriously..

1. I just stated that Abdillahi was not responsible for the massacre of Baidaba.

2. I also stated that he was elected as a president. I did not vote for him but the representatives of Somalis did so.

3. Neither him nor Abdiqaasim was not given any chance whether they woudl have done a good job or not.

4. Ina Yey, is not jaahil according to the Somali standard...

5. I actually supported Abdiqaasim 100%.

6. I just want to see Somalia in peace and out of the anarchy.

7. Is Abdillaahi the solution? I do not know.

8. Do I love Tigre gov't? No way, nimankaa jeenyaha gaagaaban la col baan ahay...

9. Do I care which clan the president hails? No I just want a stable Somalia.

10. Who are the forumers against Abdilaahi? Mostly qabiil motivated...

eyes-only · Post by **eyes-only** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:51 pm

Kambuli, everyone decided to put their support behind the warlords headed by Abdullahi Yusuf. We all thought that after getting warlords obstructing to peace over and over again, that a warlord government will definitely work no matter how bad it may get it would be better than anarchy. But no, they decided to make Kenya their home until they had to be kicked out. And then instead of going to the capital, they decided to break into two and wage silly attacks on each other. Then now they decided to wage attacks on the Islamic courts and decide to accuse innocent people of harbouring terrorists. Then the Islamic Courts clean out the rubbish that was standing in the way of peace and what happens? They accuse them of being terrorists. These men are seriously cursed and they are trying to destroy what little is left of Somalia and the hopes of Somali people very where. This is not about clan bush1t yet they use every possibility to create clan animosities. It was the president who went around calling for Puntland to attack the Islamic courts. It is the president welcoming foreign invaders to attack Somali people. He is not a statesman and he certainly is going the wrong way if he wants people to see him as something more than an Ethiopian poodle and a qabiilist traitor.

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:08 pm

[quote="kambuli"]Walaal, Faqash Killer,

Did you really killed Faqash(Daarood) or is just a name? If you really killed them then I would not expect you to spare Ina yey Laughing

Just kidding (Kaftan)..

Let me response your question seriously..

1. I just stated that Abdillahi was not responsible for the massacre of Baidaba.

2. I also stated that he was elected as a president. I did not vote for him but the representatives of Somalis did so.

3. Neither him nor Abdiqaasim was not given any chance whether they woudl have done a good job or not.

4. Ina Yey, is not jaahil according to the Somali standard...

5. I actually supported Abdiqaasim 100%.

6. I just want to see Somalia in peace and out of the anarchy.

7. Is Abdillaahi the solution? I do not know.

8. Do I love Tigre gov't? No way, nimankaa jeenyaha gaagaaban la col baan ahay...

9. Do I care which clan the president hails? No I just want a stable Somalia.

10. Who are the forumers against Abdilaahi? Mostly qabiil motivated...[/quote]

Laughing

good analyses, but what im only saying is that what you said, like you said we need to give him a change, well we did and what did he do for somalia, nothing else than bringing oure enemies in to somalia, and if you look to his biographie than you should had known that he was the reponsible of killing magacaa somaliweyn,not all the forumers are against abdilaahi cuss only of tribalism, forgot about forumers are you telling me that the majorty of somalis are against c/yusuf cuss of tribalism i dont think so, kambuuli the fact is that somalidu wey is barteen, we all know who c/yusuf is but when he was choising as the president although amxaaro helped him to win the elections, ppl thought like you now give him just a change i know that even forumers who were against him cuss on tribalism who said things like that, qurankuu buu ku dartay that he will make somalia peace, he even lied to his god, but what else do you expect of warlords who used to terrorize somalis, i think evrybody want to see somalia in peace but how can we do that if we got traitiors in oure goverment

you said afbijo was not reponsible for the massacre of baydaboi, tell me who is reponsible for than, remember that those tribes like digil and mirfil are also beeing discriminated in puntland, and those mjs troops in baydaboi who just shoot with out any reaons, you've got a point their c/yusuf was not reponsible for the massacre but atleast he could had said something about the barbaric attacks of his troops and since the majorty of his troops are mjs could he had said something about it, why is he so silence about it, this only shows that he agreed with what they doing,

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:09 pm

Eyes Only,

I wish I could beleive that people are hating Ina Yey because of nationlaistic issues... I wish walaahay that was the case... But that is not the case...People are hating him for;

1. 85% for clan. Let us not fool each other, we know how our own people reason.

2. 15% for the sake of our beloved Country.

I knew that he said before "There is Alqaciida in Shimbiraley"
I knew he fought with Alitixaad which was lead by Daahir Aweys somewhere in 1991....A lot of people were killed from both sides... but by the end of the day both sides who died were Somalis... Sad

But honestly it is news to me that he went to Puntland and asked to fight with the Maxkamadha..... Did he ask them to come to Mogadisho and fight with them or?.... I am sure no one will listen if he said that...

But honestly no one gave him or Qaasim a chance to prove them failures or not....

xoogSADE14 · Post by **xoogSADE14** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:11 pm

kambuli

i'm sorry to say this but your support for ina yusuf is based purely on qabiil Surprised

kambuli · Post by **kambuli** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:19 pm

Faqash,

For sure minority clans are discriminated in Somalia... This is a curse that I hope we will be out of it one day.. Insha Allaah.. and May Allaah throw in hell fire anyone who does that. Yes I have read, those poor guys who were tortured simply because they hailed from Baidaba... By the way Digil and mirifle are not minority of the Somalis but simply they were minority in that region...

But walaal what I was talking about was the pictures that were posted in this forum....

Lord Diplock · Post by **Lord Diplock** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:25 pm

[quote="kambuli"]Walaal, Faqash Killer,

Did you really killed Faqash(Daarood) or is just a name? If you really killed them then I would not expect you to spare Ina yey Laughing

Just kidding (Kaftan)..

Let me response your question seriously..

1. I just stated that Abdillahi was not responsible for the massacre of Baidaba.

2. I also stated that he was elected as a president. I did not vote for him but the representatives of Somalis did so.

3. Neither him nor Abdiqaasim was not given any chance whether they woudl have done a good job or not.

4. Ina Yey, is not jaahil according to the Somali standard...

5. I actually supported Abdiqaasim 100%.

6. I just want to see Somalia in peace and out of the anarchy.

7. Is Abdillaahi the solution? I do not know.

8. Do I love Tigre gov't? No way, nimankaa jeenyaha gaagaaban la col baan ahay...

9. Do I care which clan the president hails? No I just want a stable Somalia.

10. Who are the forumers against Abdilaahi? Mostly qabiil motivated...[/quote]

'2. I also stated that he was elected as a president. I did not vote for him but the representatives of Somalis did so'

Laughing

Who sent those 'representatives' to go and vote for A.Yussuf and his 'parliament'? If my memory serves me well, the so-called 'representative' were nothing but a bunch of warlords supporters, failed 'politicians', hopeless qaat uun of Eastleigh, scum of the earth.

We the somali people have not sent anyone to Nairobi, they were self-appointees and hence, 'dowladda' of A. Yussuf is null and void.

No to Amxaaro and Abdullahi Yussuf

eyes-only · Post by **eyes-only** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:27 pm

Kambuli, most of the support for Abdullahi Yusuf is from his clan or bought. We will wait and see what Puntland does. IÂ’m sure he has many enemies there who do not want him back but qabiil is qabiil and I donÂ’t like predicting clan politics. At the end of the day, it doesnÂ’t matter whether clanist people support him or not. There are I'm sure a few vocal patriotic majeerteen that can speak out against him even if it is at the risk of losing their lives. I hope more people speak out against his policies which are against the interests of Somalia and the Somali people.

xoogSADE14 · Post by **xoogSADE14** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:32 pm

"I'm sure a few vocal patriotic majeerteen that can speak out against him even if it is at the risk of losing their lives."

like Jini-Boqor and Jamac Cali Jamac.

DawladSade · Post by **DawladSade** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:33 pm

[quote]Why can't the Cayr Courts start off easy and build their confidence by say capturing Kismayo, then Bardheere, the Luuq and now they have encirlced Baydhaba.[/quote]

Basically you want the UIC and Marehan to collide?

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