The Isreal government is a terrorist

[X.Playa]

Israeli Attack Dog,

Stop yelping , let see your betel logic;

premises

A- Hezbollah is a terrorist organization due to its illegitimacy (its military wing).

B- Hezbollah is a legitimate party but not a state , by combating and resisting occupation it becomes a terrorist organization.

C- Israel by being a legitimate state its immune and absolved to being labeled a terrorist state or state using terror for political end, just because its a state.

D- Hezbollah i not a state there for its a terrorist state, regardless to its justifiable struggle.

Mad Dog,

If the state of Israel which was conceived and was delivered by terror ( Deir Yassin) ruled by terrorist ( Ben Gorin, Moshe Dian, Shamir, Sharon) practice terrorism ( assasinations, ethnic cleansing, land graping, black mailing, sanctioning torture, bulldozing communities, land mining, massacring civilians) isn't a terrorist state just because its recognized as such ,then


You need to Tell your Zionist master (Uri Cohen) to take you to the vet for you routine rabies shot.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"premises

A- Hezbollah is a terrorist organization due to its illegitimacy (its military wing).

B- Hezbollah is a legitimate party but not a state , by combating and resisting occupation it becomes a terrorist organization. "

No, not by combatting anything. The fact is that states may have military wings, they are called armies, but parties may not. They are illegal and not recognized internationally. Hizbollah isn't a terrorist organization because of its actions, but because of its structure.

"C- Israel by being a legitimate state its immune and absolved to being labeled a terrorist state or state using terror for political end, just because its a state. "

There is no such thing as a "terrorist state." Israel can't be a terrorist organization because it is a state. States may use violence to achieve a political ends and that is legal according to international law. Non-state entities may not. The morals of this do not enter into the equation. I am explaining the FACTS to you. Not interpretation of those facts.

"D- Hezbollah i not a state there for its a terrorist state, regardless to its justifiable struggle. "

Hizbollah is not a state therefore it's military wing is a terrorist organizaiton. Good boy. Yes, regardless of how justifiable it's cause. Like the rape case I used as an analogy. You may think the father is fully justified in killing the rapist, but he's still guilty of some level of homicide because the law does not recognize vigilantiism. Now, you can argue all you want that Hizbollah is morally justified. I am not arguing the morals of the thing one way or another (because it's a huge waste of time). I am simply telling you that the armed wing of Hizbollah is an illegal orgnization and the UN has passed a resoultion which says as much.

"Mad Dog,

If the state of Israel which was conceived and was delivered by terror ( Deir Yassin) ruled by terrorist ( Ben Gorin, Moshe Dian, Shamir, Sharon) practice terrorism ( assasinations, ethnic cleansing, land graping, black mailing, sanctioning torture, bulldozing communities, land mining, massacring civilians) isn't a terrorist state just because its recognized as such ,then"

Then what? Once Israel was reocngized as a state and those terrorist organizations were absorbed into the IDF, they became legitimate. That's the way the law works. Not MAC'S law. I didn't write it. I'm just telling you how it works. Don't blame me.

[mahamed99_sex]

mad dog or watever you call these days yourself.just becuase you are proven wrong ,you resort to name calling.typical redneck.ignorant azz hell.

[Ceelgabo]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Ceelgabo
Are you saying that the Jews are responsible for Somalia's civil war?

"IF WE GONNA CALL HEZBOLLAH A TERRORIST STATE THEN ISREAL IS A TERRORIST STATE."

Hezbollah isn't a terrorist state, little sister, because Hezbollah isn't a state at all. THAT is the whole point. Hezbollah as a military arm isn't legitimate. THAT is why it is labeled as a terrorist. Nobody calls the Syrian Army a terrorist organization. Why is this concept so difficult for you people?[/quote]


What can I say Mel Gibson is my role model.. f-king Kikes...they are responsible for all the war in the World...Are you a kike Mad Mac"


Damn that is classic..

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"mad dog or watever you call these days yourself.just becuase you are proven wrong ,you resort to name calling.typical redneck.ignorant azz hell."

Proven wrong? Ignorant? I'm th eonly ne here making any sense. I cite law and you guys babble in response. It's as if I am talking to a bunch of idiots.

[mahamed99_sex]

mad mac...us law doesnt apply to everyone in the world.it applys to us citizens.the united states is not the government of the world.it doesnt control anything.so stop gerribish talking about laws that dont exist in other parts in the law.you wonder why most ppl hate american government, yall think you are right about everything,and iam refering to you since you work for the government.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"mad mac...us law doesnt apply to everyone in the world.it applys to us citizens.the united states is not the government of the world.it doesnt control anything.so stop gerribish talking about laws that dont exist in other parts in the law.you wonder why most ppl hate american government, yall think you are right about everything,and iam refering to you since you work for the government. "

I didn't cite US law, I cited international law. You really are just focking with me now aren't you? Are you playing stupid here?

[mahamed99_sex]

naaa, iam plaing your red neck game.the us is the only country to have problems with everyone ever since your friend came to power.


how come you cant go after countries like north korea that always ,yeah we got nuclear so wat.but you bother iran damn all the time for trying to have the same thing.



in fact so far, the us is the only country to have used nuclear but quick to jump when someone develops one.

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mahamed99_sex

for you.

[mahamed99_sex]

mad mac thinks he knows everything.dam fool.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Once again, we have a lack of communication here. I talk Hizbollah, international law, you talk US law and Norh Korea.

Hizbollah's militia is illegal according to international law. Do you understand that sentance?

[AbdiWahab252]

The only law that matters is that of the GUN.

The bigger gun makes the laws..

[Gedo_Boy]

Legal does not mean right or wrong.

The US invasion of Iraq was illegal, in addition to being wrong.........now they have the audacity to call Hizbollah illegal.

The fact is, if it weren't for Hizbollah, Southern Lebanon would have been Northern Israel by now, with hundreds of thousands displaced to Syria.

Despite their overwhelming military advantage, they are still running around trying to get the US involved to disband Hizbollah......

There's a Somali saying: "Fulay ulal badan"..........which means "Coward with many sticks".......no matter how many weapons, still scared of a few hundred guerillas.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"Legal does not mean right or wrong. "

Never said it did. However, I would highlight that militias which are not under state control are inherently a bad thing. The Hizbollah militia, in my view, is illegitimate and should be part of the Lebanese Army under the control of the Lebanese government. How can a government function effectively when it does not control its own territory but has competing armed forces within its own borders?

"The US invasion of Iraq was illegal, in addition to being wrong.........now they have the audacity to call Hizbollah illegal. "

There is debate about whether the US invasion of Iraq was legal or illegal under existing international law. I won't argue that it wasn't smart though. I was oppossed to it then and have not changed my point of view.

"The fact is, if it weren't for Hizbollah, Southern Lebanon would have been Northern Israel by now, with hundreds of thousands displaced to Syria. "

This may or may not be true. It is certainly true that Israel has a habit of annexing territory when it invades. HOWEVER, if it were not for the fact that the PLO and non-statist groups had been using Lebanon as sancutary and attacking Israel, it would most certainly not have invaded in the first place. There was SIGNIFICANT provocation coming out of Lebanon in the 70s and early 80s. Whether or not one believes that Israel is ever seeking to expand, there can be no debate but that the Arabs give them sufficient causus belli.

"Despite their overwhelming military advantage, they are still running around trying to get the US involved to disband Hizbollah...... "

Hizbollah is illegitimate. I think it is somewhat ironic that when I point out here on the net that the consequence of Arabs supporting hizbollah (and other non-state armed organizations) is that events like Qansa will continue to recur, nevertheless, you act all outraged over them. I have had countless Muslims on this net say to me "We don't care about the cost, we will never stop supporting (fill in the group). We will never stop attacking Israel until it is destroyed." Then when the bill comes due all of you whine and cry. You say "We don't fear death" but when death is on the doorstep, suddenly there is endless outrage and bitching. Make up your minds. Are you willing to fight Israel and pay the piper or not?

"There's a Somali saying: "Fulay ulal badan"..........which means "Coward with many sticks".......no matter how many weapons, still scared of a few hundred guerillas."

See my post above.

There's a Napoleonic saying "God is on the side with the best artillery."

Like I said, if the good citizens of southern Lebanon want to keep supporting Hizbollah, that's up to them. But there is a price to be paid for it and they are paying it now. I always find it funny when they are moaning and wailing on TV. I want to ask them "What the hell did you think was going to happen when you supported Hizbollah? Did you think Israel was going to roll over and ignore it?"

I don't give a shit who is right and who is wrong. And the outcome of this conflict will not be shaped by who is right or wrong. History if full of examples where the bad guys won. So if the Lebanese in Southern Lebanon want to get killed all the time, and see their homes and livelihood destroyed, then keep on fighting. That's what is happening and will continue to happen. And it's plain for all to see.

[mahamed99_sex]

no mateer how many blood was shed,at the end hezbollah and isreal will sit and negotiate,so they may as well do it now in stead both of them killing children.