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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:03 pm
by Steeler [Crawler2]
That was a quote from Winston Churchill. That great imperialist.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:26 pm
by LionHeart-112
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:35 pm
by QansaGabeyle
Hey have you noticed how Grant is so anti-islam but tries to hide it underneath a sugary coat?
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:36 pm
by avowedly-agnostic
The United States constitution is indeed one of the greatest documents ever produced.
Any document which sanctions slavery, killing of dissenters from religion, encroachment on individual liberty, and is a stumbling block to free speech is not worth the paper on which it is written. As such the Quran belongs to an era gone by.
QansaGabeyle
So what, either refute him or put up.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:40 pm
by Ceelgabo
[quote="avowedly-agnostic"]The United States constitution is indeed one of the greatest documents ever produced.
Any document which sanctions slavery, killing of dissenters from religion, encroachment on individual liberty, and is a stumbling block to free speech is not worth the paper on which it is written. As such the Quran belongs to an era gone by.
QansaGabeyle
So what, either refute him or put up.[/quote]
You put man made law above the laws of all mighty...wow..I hope you party hard the little time you have in this world.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:04 pm
by avowedly-agnostic
" You put man made law above the laws of all mighty...wow..I hope you party hard the little time you have in this world. "
Thanks I will, though I should point out the Quran is also the work of man. What's noteworthy is you don't deny what I say. Your recognition that Islam belongs to a bygone era is a positive step to shaking off your chains of superstition and embracing freethought.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:20 pm
by Grant
[quote="QansaGabeyle"]Hey have you noticed how Grant is so anti-islam but tries to hide it underneath a sugary coat?[/quote]
I got the same accusation from Lion a day or so ago.
Funny, strange; not funny, hilarious; I have friends and family who think I am too pro-Islam to be a Christian.
I must admit, the more I learn about Islam, the less blindly pro-Islamic I have become. I have found that there are as many or more divisions and interpretations within Islam as there are in the other major religions of this world, and I do not find them all equally rational or compatible with my core beliefs.
Please keep in mind, guys, that I am a Kafir. However sympathetic I may be, I am still a Kafir, and I am going to tell you things as I see them. I am still open to learn and you are welcome to disagree.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:37 pm
by Steeler [Crawler2]
[size=18][b]KUFR POWER![/b][/size]
Re: Somalis scared of their own Religion?
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:44 am
by Aiman
[quote="highclass"]I have been reading a few topics in this section and saw how some people where fearing that the UIC took over the country and imposed Islamic law. I'm suprised seeing somalis being scared of Sharia. As a muslim you have already agreed to live upon those laws so why is to so hard to support it being implemented as national law? .I'm also suprised seeing a muslim saying Politics and Islam shouldn't be mixed.
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Some people are are blindly worshiper of their Qabiil for that they tend to buy all the propaganda that is painted by the enemies of Islam and use that for their back up agenda to discredit of the UIC. Or for their hypocritical reason that Sharica Law may disturb them from the imoral ways of life style and make up all the excuses they could get to undermine what the UIC are doing.
It says in the Axaadiith:
((Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman said, 'The hypocrites of today are worse than those of the lifetime of the Prophet, because in those days they used to do evil deeds secretly but today they do such deeds openly.' ))
You even see a kaafir insulting the religion of Al Islam (infront of hypocrite claimed to be a Muslim) and what the hypocrite will respond to or replay "well he/she is entitled to express his/her opinion and I respect that." And that is the excatly the modern Munaafiqs the hypocrites.
[10] In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: and grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves).
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:28 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
Aiman
I don't suppose you ever heard of the first amendment of the constitution of the United States? Free speech? Ring a bell?