SOMALI MARINE NOMENCULTURE

[Samatr]

They did exist, my father was attacked by one of them when he was a kid staying with abti, luckily his abti scared the bear away with a rifle left behind at the house. There were like three bears left in British Somaliland at the time, the chances of getting attacked by a bear were very rare.

[X.Playa]

A possible explanation is the theory that these bears were headed to an Ausi zoo in 1840 before the ship that was carrying them sank near the somali coast most of the bear made it to the land , they multiplied but there stay was short as they were hunted and killed by 1910 they were gone , most somalis elders would tell you the Madax Kuti or Orgome man eater was able to stand up right and even claime trees..

But if a Biritish guy from western Canada who knows what bears looks like hunted bears in somalia in early last century then the story and myth must be for real.

[Ashlee~]

Xplaya

So your basically saying that they weren't indigenous to somalia/land/ia whatever?

I thought there was some sort of endemic african bear that the brits hunted down for fun in somalia

[Samatr]

From what I was told the British brought the madax kuti, they eventually died out.

[Ashlee~]

The british tried to put fear in our hearts buy bringing bears huh?

I guess it didn't work and they killed the poor bastards

[surria]

[quote="Demure"]So what's farabadne then in English? Does anybody else know what I'm talking about?

Samater what's that?[/quote]

centipede : http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia ... 25675A.jpg

Yes, i got that one wrong, you are right, farabadne is somali for centipede.

[X.Playa]

The British never brought any non native animals to Africa, even in Kenya and Tanzania and the rest of Bantuu Africa the British used the Somali horse and they couldn't bring their own , it takes alot of hassle to bring animals on board of ships even for milliteray needs never mind bringing bears just for the heck of it.

The British brought to somali only 2 non native trees the Baxara Saaf and Mire Mire both from Ausi to fight off soil erosion.

[Samatr]

I remember there was another word for centipede, and no its not dirxi.

[Ashlee~]

Xplaya

So your saying they were indigenious to SOMALI LANDS?

So whats up with the story of them being wrecked off the coat of Somalia proper?

The somali pony isn't as efficient as the arabian horses. The brits had a garrison in adan so why didn't they bring the more popular and larger horses?

[X.Playa]

Who said they were native to Africa??

The somali horse is of 2 breeds the large horse from western Somalia and the light hoof fast pony from Sanaag region and parts of Nugaal. The Arabian horse is only larger then the somali pony not faster but not larger then the somali propor horse from the plaines of jigjiga/Hargaysa/Awbare qabri bayax region.

What makes you think a horse will get bigger eating the sands of Saudi Arabia???

The Arab horse is a misnomer , the Persian horse is the proper name.

[surria]

[quote="Samatr"]I remember there was another word for centipede, and no its not dirxi.[/quote]

Dheertaxaniinyo

[Ashlee~]

Xplaya

If they (bears) aren't indigenous then where do they come from if they aren't the product of a british ship wreck

There is no horses in hargeysa sxb In nugaal valley (twin provinces of sool and nugaal) and sanaag but not hargeysa

[X.Playa]

you almost sound cute as you say that, it seems in your opinion even animals like horses and donkeys perfer to live with certain tribes then others. You sound like your uncle Cimiile who love to share tribes with the mule family of animals as though they a sub-clan of his mythical Dhulos warriors.


From Qoolcadey, Salaxlay, Gaaroodi to Mudug region every somali tribe with in these territories own horses, there is nothing sepcial about Garoowe or Laaas Caanood that horses consum, the somali flora that horses graze on are all over the somali land.

Your little Kuumbo fantasy got way ahead of you, there are more wild horses in Somalia then domesticated once , starnge enough the somalis find much use for doonkeys now days then the horse. Iam not surprised at all, the only people on earth who have donkeys in their flag are Daaroood and they love to call it horses..

http://www.hargeysa.org/Dalkaaga%20daawo%20dacalada.htm

This is Qoolcaday, Gaaroodi, Mataan, Salaxley just 50km south est of Hargaysa, if these are not somali horses in Waqooyi Galbeed then you tell me Kuumbo boy is this Daarood-land?? or did the horse moved away from Daarood land after the Daarood Kacaan was toppled or better yes tell us these horses are anti-Kacaan and Kuumbo horses and they are garzing Qoolcaday just beacuse they are conspiring against the mythical mighty Kuumbos.

This what men who know horses call Faras Galbeed , not Qoob Yare the eastern breeed, in statuer they are not smaller then the Arab horses infact they are much bigger...


this is lesson # 1 in somali horsemenship Dhabayaco kid

[ABSAME']

Xplaya, I.M Lewis's first book writes that only two tribes own the biggest number of Horses. He said, Warsangali and Habar Awal. He says the first are famous seafarers who ply dhows between Aden and Somalia.



Is Yuunbi, Taraaqad.

What is Tabadiin in English?


Nibiri?

[X.Playa]

Since when I.M Lewis became the horse breed expert of somalia? and since when I.M Lewis began counting the herds of somali tribes , how many chicken , goats and horses they own?

Fact is almost all somalis own horses and all somali clans territory are plauged by wild horse peopluation.

Of all Harti history the art of reciting Geeraar upon the horse or horse praising potery never ever existed , horsemenship is alien to the Harti (before the Devrish), no Harti ever compose a single poem for horsemenship. Not Cali Dhuux, not Ismaaciil Mire, not Aw Muuse Ismaaciil no harti poet ever even owned a horse before the Devrish.

Garxajis, Arab, Absame , Habar Jeclo these the clans that are famouse for their horsemenship, every major poet or warrior among these clan and the neckname of his horses still survive almost 150 years later, from Xamar Qaayb riden by the Habar Jeclo Maxamuud Daalin, to Maydal the horse of Nuur Dhagacun to Welxad the horse of Raage Ugaas to Dhaameel the horse of Xirisi Amaan to Geyhd the horse of cabdi Fadal.

Cali Jaamac Haabiil on his horse in 1877:

Imisaan ku dhaqaayey
Oo ku dhawrdhawranayey
Imisaan dhayal fuuliyo
Kaaga dhaartay cayaar
Imisaan dharab meelleh
Dhoobbi kuuma dirayne
Sida Dhoorraha wiilka
Aqalkoo dhan la gooyey
Dhinacayga ku seexshey

Imisaan ku dhaqaayeyoo
Wan weynoo dhagaxoobey
Dhug intaan kaga siiyey
Dhecaankii laga shiilay
Dhawr Galaan kugu xaabshoo
Dacarti kaaga dhammeeyey

Dhuda Qayli la moodyoow
Ma haddaad kibir dhaaftoo
Dharaarna soo hoyan weydoo
Qoofalkii dhag ka siisay

Haddii aan col dhaqaajin
haddii aan bir la dhaabay
Dhool intaan ku qabto
Afka kuugu dhammaynoo
Dhiig yaroo xabagoobiyo
Dhareer kaa tifiqlayn

Haddii aanan qara dheegan
Dhudihii an kala jeexay
Dhexda kuugu jirjiirin

Adigoo yar dhasiigeyoo
Ila dhiidhiyi waayeyoo
Orodkii dhabqinaaya
Haddii aanan dhenged qaadhoo
Dhowr maalmood dhulka tiil
Dhaw intaan kugu siiyo
Dhuuxa kaaga aroorin

Dhanbacaadka rogaalkana
Fulaa dhawrsada miihiye
Dhabo geelu buteeyeyoo
Dheelmadoo ka carraabay
Isasii dhifadkaaga
Haddaan Siig dhitinaaya
Lagu moodin dhurwaa
Allaylee dhalad miihi

When Cabdi Fadal was asked by Duucaale "Aftaag" to follow Cali Jaamac Haabiil and say few words about his horse Cabdi Fadal began:


Midabkaagu Geydhoow sidii Goray ma laaceene
Gaaddada iyo Feedhuu baruur kuma gammuurmeene
Cir godladay gufaaciyo Mayay gelinba cayn keenay

Goortay Gammaanki u naceen Gooxa iyo Roobka
Ninka goodan gaaridu halkay gacal samayneysey
Legga kuguma geliyeen halkay gogoshu ii tiille

Labadaada gobol goor walbaba subag ma gaadheene
Goonyaha intaan kaaga shubay gego ma qaadeene
Guuraha habeenkii kolkii Goda la doonaayo
hadba gees an kaagama dayeen gelengel laydheede.

When he was asked if he is done he said no and he continued:

Meel dhaanki laba dhaxay miyaan kugu ladaabsiiyey
Ma leggaan ku geliyaa sidii weled an laab raacay
Ma u laacday Lebi doogleh iyo sida Lug dooxoowdey

Sidii Aar laxaadsaday miyey luquntu kuu baacday
Lista geela caanaha miyaan Ledana kuu daayey
Ma Siddeed jir baan kuu legdeyood laacday badhidiisa

Lafta dhabar kob layskaga jaboo rag isku laylyaayo
Ma ku lali halkaan Laarriyoow kugu listaameeyo
Mise waan ku lumiyaa intaan lur iga kaa gaadhin.


Fact is your little I.M.Lewis who you site as an auhtority wasn't even born yet nor his English came to somali when these poets were compteing for hose praise poetry in 1877.