IS THERE ANY COMPELLING REASONS TO CHANGE THEIR NAMES

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I have been left to wonder if you are fake H/J or little imbecile who denounce Somali names for not understanding what Islamophobic is.

It's disgusting when their delegation "UIC" with pakistani traditional dresses visiting neighbouring countries with name of CUTEYBA Twisted Evil It's over stepped mark. init?
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The day of judgement people will give account for every sin they had committed. not because their names were Jilicow or Ibnu batuuta Laughing
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Here we go again Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Subxaana'Allah.
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[quote="LAFO-LAFO"]Amat-sh!thead
I have been left to wonder if you are fake H/J or little imbecile who denounce Somali names for not understanding what Islamophobic is.

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Why is it that a person tend to disagree with you guys his/her Qabiil will be in question?


X Kaafir playa,


It is funny how an outcast kaafir like yourself puting others down "Ximaar" when you are the lowest of all low.


[quote="] The campaign will continue untill the Arab influence in terms of changing our dhaqan, is fully eradicated. We're muslims not Arabs! The two are not one and the same.[/quote]


You are a follower not a policy maker and before you advise any one in this board for a "dhaqan" cellis why don't you start yourself first by wearing Hibaaj. Hijaabless ladies should have no say for policy making.

Oh wait wearing Hijaab is an Arab culture not our "culture."
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Aiman
Like what you ask me above, I hate when someone cannot differentiate between Islam and arabism. 'The chickenhead above' she need as a Muslims to differentiate between what is divine.
National Islamism is great if they can manipulate it to their own benefit. They need a mechanism to support their own arabism. By playing up their piety and using Islamist slogans to justify their policies.

Aiman,
My intention was not to debate islamic issue here. its been hijacked without answering my question of why Somali delegation "UIC" with pakistani traditional dresses visiting neighbouring countries with name of CUTEYBA It's over stepped mark. init?
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I think the compelling reason for the name change is exactly what they want to represent.

I mean if you say I want to represent Islam, and abide by the islamic law and rules why would you not change your name it Islamic names. It only makes sense. right?
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Ubaxeey

Arabic names don't grant you a place in heaven. Laughing
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thats far from my point, aboowkiis.

I was just saying, its better to have a ligit Muslim name, than somali nicknames.
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I will name my sons Carraale and Saxardiid, authentic Somali names. Abu Xaayow Bin Yalaxoow is not a legit Arabic name Laughing . There is no such thing as Muslim names, there are Muslims with Arabic names the prophet PBUH being one of them.
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whatever you say man.
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LAFO-LAFO,


I see nothing wrong with the names as far as I could remember Ali, Abdulraxman, Moxamed, Axmed e.t.c is not Somali names either but since we are Muslims we honorarily carry those names and plus both Darood and Isaaq claimed their forefather were Arabs (except Hawiye) ibn Fulaani and Bin Fulaani so why the hate? I do hate their wossie leaders though and those who are booty licker to the west but that's about it. I saw some people arguing for instance like Abubakar (R. A) that his name stayed the same before Islam never changed because it didn't have a bad meaning those that did have a bad meaning they did change it.


They shouldn't wear those Pakistani clothes rather Macawiis or Qamiis would do with the Cimaad or Kofiyad (not the Pakistani made kofi the Barawani made Kofi Laughing since Baraawe is located in Somalia definitely won't reduce our Somaliness right )


Last time you accuse me of being "propagating" the "Arab nationalism" and some people in here were irritated about the harsh exchange views so I let it go. Your hatred for Arabs must have confuse my Hadiith that I post which contain Arabs names of the people who narrated the Hadiith. The only time I said something like Arabic should be the world language instead English because Qur'aan is written in Arabic that doesn't make me "propagating" "Arab nationalism."


A lot of people criticize the ICU for what ever their motive is but I see them bringing dignity to our country like it use to be (of course minus wearing the Pakistan clothes)... but some people with their Qabiil infested disease seem not to appreciate them for the hard work.
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Sheik Aiman

Ask any Pakistani co-worker or your neighbour for his/her ancestor. Walaahi He/SheÂ’ll tell you Bin-Hashim or Ahlu-beyt but (people know who they are, and people cannot impersonate others by simply ignoring their pride of what they are)
I think that you have a complete wrong idea on Islam and Arabism I have been reading your posts for years and seen you were lionized al-Zarqawi who defame Islam for killing fellows shiias and beheading 60yr old in the name of god. To me you come here to preach Arab nationalist but hiding behind Islam.
Islam is exactly the opposite of what is stated in the your earlier posts: it forbids burning village and towns, killing animals, capturing women, children or unarmed people, targeting worship places etc... All these instructions are found in the Koran and Prophet Mohammad, risaala peace be upon him.
I would have been much happier if you come up with some Islamic Dacwa than Arabism. Arabs considered non Arab Muslim as sub-human. Twisted Evil

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What are you saying I praise any one who got the balls to stand up against the biggest zionist of the world. what the heck I even praise the Gabar Gidir warriors for standing up against the zionist influence in the Horn of Africa the mother land. The Iraqi "insurgent" have the right to defend themselves against the zionist occupation just like our fellow Somalis did in Somalia but you didn't accuse me of trying to propagate the "hutunism." I even support the Shica like Ahmedinejad against the zionist so I'm a fair man I think hopefully.


[quote="LAFO-LAFO"]

I would have been much happier if you come up with some Islamic Dacwa than Arabism. Arabs considered non Arab Muslim as sub-human. Twisted Evil

WA BILAAHI TAWFIIQ[/quote]


So you are telling me to change my strategy Laughing
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Sheikh Aiman

I'm telling to change your strategy Smile
You praise any one who got the balls to soaking the sectarian violence up..Muslim killing Muslim....Beheading Bigley and Margarit Hassan are biggest zionist! what a laughable idea, typical Arab's psyche'
Sxb Arabs have no balls to confront biggest zionist! and non arab Muslim are sub-human for them Twisted Evil

The Qur'an says:

... that whoever took a life, unless it be for murder or for spreading disorder on earth, it would be as if he killed all mankind; and whoever saved a life, it would be as if he saved all mankind.

And:

And he who kills a believer intentionally, his reward is Hell; he shall remain therein forever

How can someone who believes in this Koran commit murder?

Here's how:

In his mind -- and perhaps even in his heart -- the murder he commits is not murder: it is an act of virtue.

Those who do evil can be of two kinds. There are those who know that the evil they do is evil, and there are those who don't. In fact, those of the latter kind might even be absolutely certain that the evil they do is not evil but virtue. When that is the case, murder and terrorism can, in their minds, become Jihad.

The good intentions of these 'pious evil-doers' might become an excuse for them on the Day of Judgement, but in this worldly life of ours, when murder and terrorism are the issue, their error of judgement -- howsoever noble their intentions might be -- does not, in any way, exonerate them from the responsibility for causing disruption and disorder in society. Therefore, these people need to be dealt with -- and when human lives and law and order are at stake, there can be two ways of doing that: either you succeed in convincing them that their 'virtue' is actually evil and that their Jihad is in reality Fasad9 or Muharabah10 or you sentence them to death.

Two pertinent questions are: how do you convince them? and would the State be morally justified if, after having taken reasonable measures to solve the problem through dialogues and discussions, it has to award them the death punishment?

To convince such Islamist groups as resort to murder and terrorism that, howsoever noble the goals, their methods are against the teachings of their own religion, one has to understand the arguments they themselves use to justify their deeds. Of such arguments some of the more important ones are discussed here.

One of their arguments is based on a narration in which the Prophet (sws) is reported to have said:

He amongst you who sees any wrong should change it with his hand11; if that is not possible for him, then with his tongue; if that is not possible for him, then [he should condemn it] in his heart -- and that is the weakest level of faith. (Muslim, Kitabu'l-Iman)

Ghamidi points out that this statement of the Prophet (sws) has a specific context in reference to which the statement merely means that it is the duty of every Muslim to try for the eradication of evil within the confines of the social and legal authority he or she has12. For example, parents are afforded the authority by the conventions of society to use some mild form of physical punishment, if required, for the proper upbringing of their children. This obviously does not mean that they have the authority to batter their children. Similarly, the government -- a court of law to be more precise -- has the legal authority to award a suitable sentence to an offender if he is found guilty. Now, if some parents did not use their authority to stop their children from becoming heroin addicts, they would certainly be at a weaker level of faith, especially if physical punishment of a sort would have helped and it were love which stopped them from using their authority. Love does not mean that you let those you love do wrong. Similarly, a judge who, under some pressure, gave a lighter punishment to an offender would certainly be at a weaker level of faith. Indeed, in the absence of a reasonable excuse, he might even be regarded as being devoid of faith altogether on the Day of Judgement.

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