Ras Kamboni: The Last Ajuran Town In Somalia?

eyes-only · Post by **eyes-only** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:06 pm

Qarxiye the Ajuraan empire did exist and was very powerful, there is nothing exaggerated about the size. They did rule over a vast land. It later became overstretched and was in decline, the hiraab then conspired and destroyed the Ajuuraan rule.

muslim-man · Post by **muslim-man** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:09 pm

Qaarxiye,

I don't think the Ajuran Empire was ever as grand as that of Nubia or Axum, but in Somalia, it was a major ruler for centuries. Many civilizations have been lost in time without much literature to tell us of their existence. The Ajuran empire has just suffered a similar fate.

I don't know much about myself, but I am sure they did have a legacy!

Lord Diplock · Post by **Lord Diplock** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:09 pm

Who did we kicked out of our present deegan in Garissa area? Ajuurans? my awoowo told me the great Mzee Ibrahim (Reer Jibril, Reer Guleed) the grand sultan of Abdwak kicked wardhay (Oromo) out of the land Ogadeens in Kenya occupy about 160 years ago. I believe him.

When and where did this Ajuuran's empire existed?

Ugaas Diini · Post by **Ugaas Diini** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:12 pm

Same here dude. The land was liberated from Oromos. Unless the Ajuran empire was an Oromo empire, then it did not exist.

Jeffrey Dahmer · Post by **Jeffrey Dahmer** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:12 pm

eyes-only, it was a sultanate, not an empire. There is a difference. One shouldn't never compare Somali sultanates with the foreign sultanates.

eyes-only · Post by **eyes-only** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:13 pm

Diplock, I think the Ajuuraan existed before the arrival of the darood. They ruled over the land, that doesnÂ’t mean they were the majority in all these lands. They were expanding too fast which was ultimately their down fall.

Lord Diplock · Post by **Lord Diplock** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:17 pm

[quote="eyes-only"]Diplock, I think the Ajuuraan existed before the arrival of the darood. They ruled over the land, that doesnÂ’t mean they were the majority in all these lands. They were expanding too fast which was ultimately their down fall.[/quote]

Maybe we just kicked both them and Wardhay out at the same time. During the great Darood expansion, Ogadeens grabbed land equilavant to 4 Ogadenia gobols.

From Ras Kamboni to Buuale to Wajir south to Garissa. that is a big slice of land. Very Happy

Jeffrey Dahmer · Post by **Jeffrey Dahmer** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:17 pm

Okay, now we're over-exaggarating. Let the discussion be based on facts, please.

Karbaash_killa · Post by **Karbaash_killa** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:09 pm

Qaxiye lol at History

Caydiid is History what else do we need Very Happy

Bazuuka · Post by **Bazuuka** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:12 pm

AJUURAAN EMPIRE EXISTED THATS FOR SURE
PPL USED TO DIVIDE SOMALIS TWO

AJI IYO AJUURAAN

DAAROOD HAWIYE ISAAQ ALL OF THEM WERE AJI

THE OTHER HALF OF SOMALIA WERE AJUURAAN

LEARN YOUR HISTORY SUCKERS

Lord Diplock · Post by **Lord Diplock** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:16 pm

[quote="Bazuuka"]AJUURAAN EMPIRE EXISTED THATS FOR SURE
PPL USED TO DIVIDE SOMALIS TWO

AJI IYO AJUURAAN

DAAROOD HAWIYE ISAAQ ALL OF THEM WERE AJI

THE OTHER HALF OF SOMALIA WERE AJUURAAN

LEARN YOUR HISTORY ****[/quote]

it is Iji not Aji.

karkaar · Post by **karkaar** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:30 pm

[quote="Qaarxiye"]I am not hating man, If we people know about boqor Kanadiid who owned 23 horses and a hut, how come we never heard of this great empire that can be compared to axum, china, rome, india etc.... Laughing

[/quote]

Qarxiye, stop the hate, boqor keenidiid owned from warsheekh in the south to nugaal in the north to east hobyo and west all the way to gelaadi...His empire included a wide range of qabaa'ls from, marexaan, abgaal,habargir,dir,sheikal,lelkase,owrtable,midgaans,tumaal, boon and reer mudug and nugaal majeerteens...

If it weren't for him, you'd still be dark ages Laughing

Give the man his due credit...

Bazuuka · Post by **Bazuuka** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:31 pm

[quote="Lord Diplock"][quote="Bazuuka"]AJUURAAN EMPIRE EXISTED THATS FOR SURE
PPL USED TO DIVIDE SOMALIS TWO

AJI IYO AJUURAAN

DAAROOD HAWIYE ISAAQ ALL OF THEM WERE AJI

THE OTHER HALF OF SOMALIA WERE AJUURAAN

LEARN YOUR HISTORY ****[/quote]

it is Iji not Aji.[/quote]

Today Sijuwe is correcting me Laughing

Raaxeeye! · Post by **Raaxeeye!** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:01 pm

Ajuuraan is just like Booran, Oromos, Shaansi, etc and they're not sub-clan or any part of other major tribes. Their numbers were high back then but not anymore since almost the rest of Somai clans fought with them. Most recently, They were added to the .5 ( others ) from the 4.5 formula groupings during the Arta conference in Djibouti as well as Mbagathi Kenya.

gurey25 · Post by **gurey25** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:24 am

ajuraan domain ranged from qelaafo, to Hobyo and south to xamar.

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