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Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:32 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
waa Maxamed Rahaweyn , son of Saab Irrir Samale
Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:33 pm
by Hyperactive
Samatar horta anegaba dir garan wayey kalko ka yimid. Ma goolo madow bo aha?
Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:35 pm
by Samatr
Dir consists from the Cisa in Jabuti to Biyomaal in Jubooyinka, miyay waalanyihiin markay dadka isku darayaan?

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:37 pm
by Hyperactive
so hada wahad ledahay haweya wahba iskuma tehen o Islanka omba idinka daheya

ta wa ega kaftan.
Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:40 pm
by Samatr
Hawiye Soomaalinimo iyo Islaamnimo baan kuu wadaagna intaas uun, waxay doonayaan inay naga dhaadiciyaan Abgaalka Xaayoow xaa ka tiri leh baanu Ilmaadeer nahay.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:42 pm
by dhuusa_deer
Dir also includes Isaaq if you are to believe Hawiye accounting of Somali clans.
About Raxanweyn, they way i see it is this... if Afars, oromos and Rendile are not Somali, there's no good reason why Raxanweyne or traditional af-maay-maay speakers can be Somali. A lot of 'em look like us but they speak unintelligable language... which upon closer examination reveals richness in variation that can only hint being very old. Prolly a forerunner of modern Somali. Whatever the case I wouldn't consider them "ethnic" Somalis.
Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:43 pm
by Hyperactive
Samatar, Wallahi waad iga qoslesesay. War nimanka haweya ma aqaano adaba kala taqan. Waa oon dad Muslim ah o Somali ah koley.
Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:00 pm
by Samatr
[quote="dhuusa_deer"]Dir also includes Isaaq if you are to believe Hawiye accounting of Somali clans.
About Raxanweyn, they way i see it is this... if Afars, oromos and Rendile are not Somali, there's no good reason why Raxanweyne or traditional af-maay-maay speakers can be Somali. A lot of 'em look like us but they speak unintelligable language... which upon closer examination reveals richness in variation that can only hint being very old. Prolly a forerunner of modern Somali. Whatever the case I wouldn't consider them "ethnic" Somalis.[/quote]
Saxiib don't stick your Xaayoow people with me, Isaaq live in the northeastern, northwest Somalia, Hawiye isma ba soo gaadno to add us in your confedaration is very shameful.
Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:03 pm
by Hyperactive
mahad dad kurabo o dedaysa Samatarow?

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:11 pm
by Samatr
Isaaq is not Dir, come to Burco with your BS, boodh bay kuu marin xaayaga tihiin was.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:13 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
[quote="Samatr"]Isaaq is not Dir, come to Burco with your BS, boodh bay kuu marin xaayaga tihiin was.

[/quote]
yes u are
Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:17 pm
by Hyperactive
I don't know much somalida qabiilkoda wahanse maqley somalida wa dir iyo darood. Samatar maha kajira taas
War ninkan Haweya ne eba

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:22 pm
by gurey25
Samatr relax bro,
its a psycological need for them to claim that isaaq is Dir,
it makes the Darood case stronger, and it moves people's attention away from the fact that Daroods Mythical origins are just mythical.
The donbiro story and the incident with darood up on the Tree is Identical to the Origin story of the Ajuraan.
Now how can Isaaq live with people who take it as thier right , to concoct our own history for us.
Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:24 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
[quote="gurey25"]Samatr relax bro,
its a psycological need for them to claim that isaaq is Dir,
it makes the Darood case stronger, and it moves people's attention away from the fact that Daroods Mythical origins are just mythical.
The donbiro story and the incident with darood up on the Tree is Identical to the Origin story of the Ajuraan.
Now how can Isaaq live with people who take it as thier right , to concoct our own history for us.[/quote]
ITS A MYTH FOOL, DUAAHH
Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:30 pm
by gurey25
Glad you agree..
but for us our origin is not a myth it is considered sacred.
it would be a desecration for me to continue this conversation