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Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:15 pm
by Padishah
What we need is some other Darood's to get squarely in the limelight for a decent period of time. Dhabayaco-Ilkoyar thingo has gotten monotonous.

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:18 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
[quote="Padishah"]What we need is some other Darood's to get squarely in the limelight for a decent period of time. Dhabayaco-Ilkoyar thingo has gotten monotonous.[/quote]


It's Awartable's time to stand up and became a Darood Power House or Laylkase

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:28 pm
by 1nemansquad
Lets throw another spin in to the mix yea. Seing as all of this is suppositional. Lets say Dhulbaahante and Warsangali who geographically are Somalilander's decide to settle what ever dispute they have with Isaaq and become part of Somaliland even though we all know this is more than adequately not likely to be, Where would Somalia's politics be?

Where would Somalia be then?

Where does Puntland go?

And the TFG?

Would there even be something called Darood?

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:40 pm
by Lord Diplock
This is alot of BS, in the real world (i.e. in the streets of Somalia) notions like 'Hawiye association' or 'Daroodnimo' does not exist. It is the politicians and warlords who will try and fail to get Somali people to fight on clan division.

All this division is surely to the advantage of our eternal nemesis- Ethiopia.

Someone in this discussion correctly pointed out it is mostly MJs who cry out for 'Daroodnimo' when the going get tough for them and seek the support of other Daroods sub-clans. I have never heard us raising 'Daroodnimo' to defend ourselves from anyone. I wonder why?

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:41 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
[quote="Lord Diplock"]This is alot of BS, in the real world (i.e. in the streets of Somalia) notions like 'Hawiye association' or 'Daroodnimo' does not exist. It is the politicians and warlords who will try and fail to get Somali people to fight on clan division.

All this division is surely to the advantage of our eternal nemesis- Ethiopia.

Someone in this discussion correctly pointed out it is mostly MJs who cry out for 'Daroodnimo' when the going get tough for them and seek the support of other Daroods sub-clans. I have never heard us raising 'Daroodnimo' to defend ourselves from anyone. I wonder why?[/quote]


because they are Weaklings Laughing

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:47 pm
by Padishah
First of all, I don't think anyone has a right to interfere in whatever decision is made by these two groups.

To answer your question; the idea of Daroodism would promptly fizzle and deflate. Darood would be divided into disparate minorities within three countries, unable to marshal their significant numbers for any cause. Now, if and when Hawiye get their act together in Somali politics, it would be curtaisn for Dhabayaco and Ilkoyar. Darood-Hawiye politics would be reduced to who is able to strieka more favourable deal with the Hawiye body politic. Dhabayaco can offer only oil, trade, education. Ilkoyar could offer to assuage the revenge impulse, lots of fertile land, ability to grow cash crops for export, educated elite to lecture at Universities.

Ilkoyar would have the most favourable outcome, I think.

So bottom line, Dhabayaco are screwed. Isn't it delightful.

Saddam, grow up.

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:58 pm
by Lord Diplock
I still think things are not that clear cut as you're making them to be sxb.

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:00 pm
by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
[quote="Padishah"]First of all, I don't think anyone has a right to interfere in whatever decision is made by these two groups.

To answer your question; the idea of Daroodism would promptly fizzle and deflate. Darood would be divided into disparate minorities within three countries, unable to marshal their significant numbers for any cause. Now, if and when Hawiye get their act together in Somali politics, it would be curtaisn for Dhabayaco and Ilkoyar. Darood-Hawiye politics would be reduced to who is able to strieka more favourable deal with the Hawiye body politic. Dhabayaco can offer only oil, trade, education. Ilkoyar could offer to assuage the revenge impulse, lots of fertile land, ability to grow cash crops for export, educated elite to lecture at Universities.

Ilkoyar would have the most favourable outcome, I think.

So bottom line, Dhabayaco are screwed. Isn't it delightful.

Saddam, grow up.[/quote]


Waar Padishah we Awartable to make a greater role in Darood Affairs

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:01 pm
by Padishah
Its the worst case scenario. Ilkoyar have better relations with the Hawiye than the Dhabayaco do. Its not going to be pretty.

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:02 pm
by Padishah
1nemansquad, you guys aren't going to make nice with the Isaaq and make my doomsday prophecy closer to reality, are you?

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:04 pm
by Aiman
[quote="]What do you, as a neutral observer of Somali politics, see as the strengths and weaknesses of the Majeerteen clan in today's Somali political arena in general and in comparison to the:

1- Hawiye tribe
2- Isaaq tribe
3- rival Mareexaan clan of the Daarood tribe[/quote]


Look at this kid giving too much attention to this low life kaafir who doesn't even know how to wash his ghusl (غسل) and he/she asking him what do you think of the Somali affairs?

Laa xawla wa laa quwah

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:07 pm
by Padishah
Its always good to have a differing viewpoint. It also puts his focus away from insulting Islam and Muslims, and onto more productive pursuits. Would you refuse this, Aiman?

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:09 pm
by fagash_killer
[quote="Aiman"][quote="]What do you, as a neutral observer of Somali politics, see as the strengths and weaknesses of the Majeerteen clan in today's Somali political arena in general and in comparison to the:

1- Hawiye tribe
2- Isaaq tribe
3- rival Mareexaan clan of the Daarood tribe[/quote]


Look at this kid giving too much attention to this low life kaafir who doesn't even know how to wash his ghusl (غسل) and he/she asking him what do you think of the Somali affairs?

Laa xawla wa laa quwah[/quote]

aiman thnx for showing that islam is a peacefull religion. extremists like you are black mailing our religion.

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:10 pm
by Padishah
^^ Its not like he blew up anything or hurt anyone, although he has the disposition for it.

Re: Mad Mac: your analysis needed

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:10 pm
by 1nemansquad
[quote="Padishah"]1nemansquad, you guys aren't going to make nice with the Isaaq and make my doomsday prophecy closer to reality, are you?[/quote]

I just want to know, where would you guys be then if that ever happens. Exposed 15 year old girl relinquished in the middle of no where perhaps?