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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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Ismahan lol


Tell you one thing? Well for starters, Hilary will have free of charge access to a mastermind who was responsible for the prosperous economy in the 90s.Clinton will also offer his diplomacy consultation to his wife in regards to foreign policies.Although any president who takes over will always have adverse reaction to muslim countries, at least the democrats, the Clintons in particular will show some sort of restrain towards Muslims.They wont be so obvious like Bush. Basically, the Clintons means No iraq war, no iran war or no war period.It also means the united states will gain its freedom and good name once more. The bushes practically demolished all the surplus deficits,driving us into underplus, demolished all foreign diplomacy and yeah demolished the good name of US passport. Hence contributing to my fear when i travel, i no longer waive my US passport with pride, i have to lie and say i am Chinese. Sad




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Ugly name first of all, and second of all, who said Obama is muslim? Wow this man is really a genius. How does he get to be White, Black, liberal, Conservative, Christian, Muslim, American, Kenyan, and a mother theresa politician. This dude is definitely someone to be watched. For all we know, he could be a spy. Laughing
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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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How do you call the man who in every thing he does is against the republican party value, a "Republican Puppet".
*When the republican wanted to privitize social security, Obama spoke out and defended the New Deal social welfare policies of Franklin D. Roosevelt, he compared the Republican proposals to Social Darwinism.

*In june of 2006, he spoke out against making recent, temporary estate tax cuts permanent, he called the cuts a "Paris Hilton" tax break for "billionaire heirs and heiresses". Laughing

* He is anti-iraqi war, he said no to invasion of Iran. he wants clear middle east peace process in which syria will be part of.

*His first bill was the "Higher Education Opportunity through Pell Grant Expansion Act"- This guy promised to lower higher education cost for students.

* He is pro universal healthcare in American.
There is so many things that would change for ordinary Americans if Obama is elected.
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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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[quote="Reuter"]Ismahan lol


Tell you one thing? Well for starters, Hilary will have free of charge access to a mastermind who was responsible for the prosperous economy in the 90s.Clinton will also offer his diplomacy consultation to his wife in regards to foreign policies.Although any president who takes over will always have adverse reaction to muslim countries, at least the democrats, the Clintons in particular will show some sort of restrain towards Muslims.They wont be so obvious like Bush. Basically, the Clintons means No iraq war, no iran war or no war period.It also means the united states will gain its freedom and good name once more. The bushes practically demolished all the surplus deficits,driving us into underplus, demolished all foreign diplomacy and yeah demolished the good name of US passport. Hence contributing to my fear when i travel, i no longer waive my US passport with pride, i have to lie and say i am Chinese. Sad



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Reuter, you right. One of the reasons I detest Republicans is they have too reactionary political views. Jon Mccain, the overhyped war veteran is an example. Republicans nominated him. He as all other Republicans believe that success comes with naturally gifted talent that no one deserve recognition of their self-induced plight. No one should be helped even if that person is the most poorest. He is against stem cell research, tax increase, assisting the poor etc. I am flummoxed that Americans haven't paid attention to their shortcomings. Instead they voted that party twice albeit the last one was too close. A change of direction is also emerging to balance the duopplay party politics.

Meet Unity '08, a Net-powered third party that may actually work

IMAGINE IT'S MARCH 2008, and Americans are grumbling (again) about having to pick a President from among lesser evils. John McCain has emerged with a lock on the Republican nomination, but he's pandered so much to the religious right on gay marriage and stem-cell research, and dug in so deeply on staying the course in Iraq, that he's lost his crossover appeal and turns off even the moderates in his party. Hillary Clinton has likewise outpunched her Democratic foes, but the primaries have pushed her so far left that middle-of-the-road Democrats have a sick feeling about it all.

Now imagine that America's centrist majority has a way to fight back instead of simply griping that it's stuck with choices thrust upon it by 300,000 voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. Allow me to introduce Unity '08 (http://www.unity08.com), a third-party movement that may actually work. I'm not talking about another Texas billionaire who says he can save us from our two-party duopoly, but an entirely new form of political self-help. This time voters would use the Internet to draft nominees for a virtual convention in June, by which point Unity '08 will have gotten itself on the ballot in nearly every state. Names like Bloomberg, Gore, Giuliani, Obama, and Romney will draw support from vastly more voters than Clinton and McCain may have tallied in America's low-turnout primaries. To be eligible for nomination, the only condition these and other contenders must agree to is this: If they win, they will name a running mate from the other political party. The last act of the virtual convention will be to ask each of its ten million online delegates to kick in $100 for the campaign; if one in four comes through, this Unity ticket will emerge with a $250 million bankroll that will make it competitive in the closing months of the race.

Unity '08 is one of the most electorally subversive ideas in years. The brain behind it is Doug Bailey, a 73-year-old former Republican consultant, who left the game in the late 1980s before founding The Hotline, an online newsletter that has become the Beltway's political bible. Joined by former Jimmy Carter advisors Gerald Rafshoon and Hamilton Jordan, Bailey launched Unity '08 to steer politics back to the underrepresented center. What makes this third-party effort different-and plausible-is its use of the Internet, the political potential of which, Bailey believes, has barely been tapped. Yes, Howard Dean showed last time that the Internet could supercharge small-donor fundraising to make a long shot credible. But that was "incremental," Bailey says. Now, via something like the above scenario, he is convinced that "with one good push we can change the nature of our politics."

The idea behind Unity '08 isn't just to democratize the selection of candidates; it's about changing what they talk about too. One of the most frustrating things about campaigns today is that the candidates control the agenda-they only discuss what they feel will help them win. Unity '08's philosophy is that voters should set the agenda. Its citizen delegates, who have just started signing up online, will be polled on their priorities; candidates will then be required to speak to the resulting short list of big issues. That, Bailey predicts, will drive the debate toward "critical" questions (e.g., health care, education, national security) and away from merely "important" ones (abortion, gay marriage) that both parties use to inflame their bases.

If, like me, you've been vulnerable to third-party temptation, the open question is whether Unity '08 can get traction with potential candidates, who would climb aboard-and anger their parties-only if the Unity ticket seemed a credible path to power. Obstacles abound. The Federal Elections Commission has ruled that donors can give Unity '08 just $5,000 a year (vs. $25,000 for the major parties), on the grounds that it's a "political committee." Another challenge: online voting needs to be made trustworthy. And another: Democratic bloodlust may overwhelm any third-party movement. Still, Unity '08's growing advisory council already includes serious folks like Pete Peterson, Jack Valenti, William Weld, and Peter Ackerman of Rockport Capital.

If you agree that our brain-dead politics needs an overhaul, it's your civic duty to check it out.

Source: Fortune.
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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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Ismahan, give us your take on Guiliani and Al Gore. Will they ever come back?
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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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[quote="Kramer"]I rather vote for the first black president who has a clean heart and mind --then a white lady who is a senator already and did nothing for blacks--

Blacks are stupid --they are already made to believe that Oboma isn't black enough --is Hillary black enought then? --
Its time for a male black president --and Hillary will be vice-president --after that can come a white woman president![/quote]


Kramer, you have not grasped what the topic is all about. I care less of what Obama's ethnicity or race. I am saying he is a Republican puppet. Look, he aint going no where in this election except curtailing the number of votes that Hillary would have gotten from blacks. He is publicity gimmick.
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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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[quote="Ahmed-Gurey"]Ismahan, give us your take on Guiliani and Al Gore. Will they ever come back?[/quote]

Al Gore, I dont think he is coming back simply because he got a taste of hollywood Laughing Laughing Psych j/k. No Al more on to climate control but I think he is going to be influential in the DFL party.

As for Rudy...well he is like the John Kerry of the Rupublican party. The man's policies are on the flip side. I consider him a moderate. look at his issues, he is considering stem cell research, he is for lower tuition and he is for the welfare reform. On the other hand, when asked about obortion, he said he is pro-life andbut hates obortion Shocked , however, its upto the woman to choose. I see that as a contridiction. Also when asked about RoeVSwade, he said he would appoint justices that are constituante. Meaning constituantes that will overturn Roe and make obortion illegal.

So to me he is a no, no. Plus he is the biggest puppet for BUSH. He is like Bush in the making when it comes to foreign policy.
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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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Ahmed????


Tell me u dont expect me to read all that essay? All i can say is, i agree with you.



Now that we have read Ismahans essay on what she thinks about Guiliani and Gore, i guess its my time to say what i think.


Gore is an awkward stiff geek now promoted by Hollywood to a semi cool status thanks to his Global weather Mocumentary.


Guiliani is a pimp daddy who belongs to a Papa Jones Pizza dilvery or some Italiano restaurant and not in a mayors office, definitely not in a white house.
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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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Al-Aqsa will probably be gone soon Sad

Israel will absorb the Palestinian territories and the Palestinians.. and have em starve to death. The Palestinians can't keep fighting with small arms fire forever... ok, maybe they can. Laughing

Sad

and we Somalis are so ghey.. we coulda had a country a long time ago.. no one invaded us sh1t
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[quote="Ismahan445"]Reuter

How do you call the man who in every thing he does is against the republican party value, a "Republican Puppet".
*When the republican wanted to privitize social security, Obama spoke out and defended the New Deal social welfare policies of Franklin D. Roosevelt, he compared the Republican proposals to Social Darwinism.

*In june of 2006, he spoke out against making recent, temporary estate tax cuts permanent, he called the cuts a "Paris Hilton" tax break for "billionaire heirs and heiresses". Laughing

* He is anti-iraqi war, he said no to invasion of Iran. he wants clear middle east peace process in which syria will be part of.

*His first bill was the "Higher Education Opportunity through Pell Grant Expansion Act"- This guy promised to lower higher education cost for students.

* He is pro universal healthcare in American.
There is so many things that would change for ordinary Americans if Obama is elected.[/quote]

Ismahan

Straighten out a brother's facts! Dunno where he gets the crap he's got.


Reuter!!
Decided to diss me here after I turned u down in the Luuq huh? Is allowed. At least it's original, plus it called u, didn't it? Finished the second shift yet? Aah, still at it.
Now, it saddens me how being an american is a huge thing for you, have never understood you people.....and how you brain storm this much bout this damn country in which you've never seen that thing called freedom which is apparently entiltled to you while it's tearing your own country than it already is.
Wait a min, I thought education's free or u could take a loan or something!!! Didn't you make use of the opportunity? If you did you ought to ask for ur fees back darling coz they taught u nara, or perhaps u were the damn one.....I said his grandma and other family are muslims not him so.....I bet they have reading classes at MCTC
And you're right the man is a genius and definitely someone to be watched!!! At least that you got right coz watch out....here comes change!!!
Besides it doesnt matter what he is as long as he brings a difference with him which he is!!!
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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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Reuter and Ahmed-G

Why are you guys so pro Hillary Clinton? And what you think of John McCain?


Zabibta

I don't think these guys know how to look for the right politican to represent them. But then again everyone have his own important issue, but you should always look out for the ordinary people.
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Obama's planks will simply be thrown to the trashpin before the democratic party nominates a party president. How will he advance the ideaologies that are unique to the party when he is a republican puppet. Trust me he will not be selected as a party president by the Demoractic National Committee. He is also an advocate of U.S actions against Iran's Nuclear Enrichment Program. Ismahan I think you support abortion and stem cell research, but Obama is no supporter of such things.

I am trying to give you the true colour of this man but you dno't wonna listen to me girl. Watch Him and Dr. Keys who is Republican debate opposing stem cell and abortion. http://www.keyesobama.com/


Fahia, I know you are American Somali . Is Somali doomed or you do hope the best are yet to come?

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Zabibtu wlc girrl
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[quote="Ahmed-Gurey"]Obama's planks will simply be thrown to the trashpin before the democratic party nominates a party president. How will he advance the ideaologies that are unique to the party when he is a republican puppet. Trust me he will not be selected as a party president by the Demoractic National Committee. He is also an advocate of U.S actions against Iran's Nuclear Enrichment Program. Ismahan I think you support abortion and stem cell research, but Obama is no supporter of such things.

I am trying to give you the true colour of this man but you dno't wonna listen to me girl. Watch Him and Dr. Keys who is Republican debate opposing stem cell and abortion. http://www.keyesobama.com/


Fahia, I know you are American Somali . Is Somali doomed or you do hope the best are yet to come?

Reuter, Laughing[/quote]

Laughing Laughing Is that why during that election against keyes; keyes had only like 3% of the entire IL state vote. Give me a break!!!! Please all I hear you say is that he is a republican puppet and you have no legit argument to support it. Educate yourself about his issues and compare with Mrs.Clinton and see it for yourself. This man is for women's choose and affirmative action. As far as his stand on Iran's Nuke program...he is not cleared on that yet,so dont make up any stories like MRs.Clinton did ok!.

This is what I predict...If Barack Obama don't make it as president of the US, because I'm pretty sure he will win the DFL race,its going to be cuz AMericans are not ready to accept a Black president even if he is well qualified for the job. That is the sad reality, but it exists. Now I don't know how its all going to work our, but only time will tell my friend.
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Re: OBAMA, a Republic Puppet against Hillary Clinton.

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[quote="gurey25"][quote="Ugaas Diini"]I would rather see a republican win the presidential elections than Hilary Clinton. It is really difficult to believe she is not really a jew.[/quote]

cut her some slack.
early in bill clintons administration she came out very strongly with vocal support for palestinian rights,
and severly critized Isreal.

bad move,
she spent her senate campaign and her tenure as senator, bad mouthing arabs, and appearing more extremist than a hardline likudnik.
she had to make up for her boo boo earlier.[/quote]

^^^

if a huntington, obama, woman, hillary, homosexual, kkk wants to be seriously considered as a presidential canditate in america, they have to testify their allegiance to the interests of the state of israel. jews are the smartest people. they said never like the hollacaust again and united. 2000,000 jewish americans, more successful than any other ethnic group including euro americans. they are academics, scientific, business and dominate in all levels of society. they don't bicker, complain, cry like a victim with blame curses, they are the smartest people. the somalis cant agree to settle their problems and establish a consensus government, but every somali hates the jews without thinking, the jews may have a hidden clue for a solution to our problems. huntington, obama, ali, hillary or a lesbian, if they want seriously considered to be a candidate, they have to seriously listen to the jewish americans. be real you all know that. that is the power behind american foreign policy towards to israel and every candidate must believe it. no one can change through suicide bombings, it only re-inforces americaans to believe in such a policy. an educated society prefers understaning and becomes aware of the non existence of a monolithic society, hard somalis to understand that all tribes can cooperate and build a nation.
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which candidate have the better policy for somalia? gurey and isaks are lobbying for their interests for recognition and painting negatively and have the belief an anarchic south somalis is a tciket for recognition. in the south, darod and hawiye still have too much hate for each other. like jibuti, somaliland should be recognised.
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