Isaaq get off Mareexaan land!

[Dhaga Bacayl]

[quote="Ugaas Diini"]Bossasso airport rivals LAX and JFK.......that is what I was told.[/quote]

[Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah]

[quote="LiQaaye_TDH"]Come and try us you Xayawaan kaalmoy, we will fukin send your Marxaare clan to Kampala [/quote]

warye

weliba in body bags ku dar

[somalinetguy]

mareexaan were evicted from the land by force

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

by force kulaha

[LiQaaye_TDH]

Enemy Add that as well....

[X.Playa]

Dhilos and Mareexaan had no business in the heart of Hawd region. The point on the map is around the area of Walwaal and Wardheer, the Dhulbahnate never before the 1960 ever set foot on these area, these area were formerly under the settlement of the Ogaaden , later the Habar Yoonis pushed the ogaadeen out till 1935 the Habar Yoonis occpuied areas just above Qabri Dhahare in Haro Digeed.

The Daarood with the help of the Italians in 1935 pushed the Habar Yoonis out of these areas:

Intaanu Talyaanigu camirin cidhifyadaa keynta
miyaanaan cadceed iyo cadceed celinin Daaroodka
Miyaanan Camuud iyo Wardheer calan ka laalaadin
Cabaadkii Ogaadeen miyaan ciida mari waayin
Cabdille iyo Makaahiil miyaan coodin lagu qeybsan
Minyaanan Biciidyahan cantaray curub ka kaw siinin
Miyaanan curadaydan u bixin cara ku soo guura:


and finally in 1947 when the Ogaadeen rejected Somaliweyn and stood on the side of Heila Salaasi along with their Ethopia's interior minister Cabdiraxmaan Saydi Cabdulle Xasan, the Ethopian goverment fulfiled the wishes of the Ogaadeens by containing the Habar Yoonis Isaaq into the area around Danood, the empror decalred that no Isaaq herd nor person can cross beyond the well of Danood, a Daarood poet in jubilation composed these lines of praise for Haila Silaas's new decree:

Intuu Eeebe abuuray
ifka duunyo la keenay
Udgoonoow Nabigii iyo
arbow Xayle Sallaasiyo
Algawaraash iyo Luul
iyo Itayaan u jeclaaa

Itiya was Haila Silaas's wife , Garwash and Lul were his 2 sons. The last battle in memory was fought between the Isaaq and in one hand and the Daarood Italian soliders in Cagaarweyne an area around modern Galaadi , it was in the hand of the Habar Yoonis for almost 20 years before the Italian forced them out.

The dhilos has the least land in the Hawd their area if even exagerated are less then 100km suqare, at most 3 or 4 villages, namely Qararo, Bookh , area, is settled by the Khaalid a minor Dhulos clan and some Cali Geri. The dhulos are limitted east by the Majeerteen Cali Saleemaan , and from the west they are squeezed by the Faarax Cabdulle H.J and the south by some Habar Yoonis clans and Ogaadeen.

The Mareexaan came the last to these areas of the Hawd and their arrival was via the Italians, the Mareexaan, Majeerteen, formed the largest clan foot sloiders for the Italian invasion of 1935 bringing for the first time the name Mareexaan to the west of Hawd in Awaare and Bulaale region.

Now today comically Wardheer is not on ethir Ogaadeen or Habar Yoonis hand , its in the hand of Xaarti who came as an Italian pusyyy scout.

[DawladSade]

Caku nacas, his whole understanding of history is based on mere Gabays. Do you not know Gabays are the mere opinion of men?

Mid la dilayaa, waxuu oranayaa anigaa raayay iyo mid aan wax ku dhicin yaa guubaabinaya tolkiis hadhawdina la oranayaa war waa laga guulayste kuwaasi.

[quote]The Mareexaan came the last to these areas of the Hawd and their arrival was via the Italians, the Mareexaan, Majeerteen, formed the largest clan foot sloiders for the Italian invasion of 1935 bringing for the first time the name Mareexaan to the west of Hawd in Awaare and Bulaale region.[/quote]

Yaa kuu jawaabi markaad waxaano kale aad qoraysid? Even on this forum how many times were manuscripts discussed speaking of Italian fear of the "radical Mohammedens known as the Marehan". Bring respected and impartial sources next time, hayska calaacalin.

Even a kid born today knows beesha Sade are Somalia's greatest warriors. Beesha Sade iyo Isaaq baa isla barbar dhigmo, do not think you will get recognition by having the glory of comparing a mere Habar to Beesha Sade.

[Cilmiile]

Dhulbahante and Cali Saleemaan?

XaarPlaya, Marexaan were the masters of Hawd and Nugaal until they migrated south into the lush and leafy pastures of Jubbaland.

Your Habar Yoonis Qamadi folks settled in Hara Doolo for a few years when the English chased you out after he discarded you after u were used like a cheap whore.

You were abused and assaulted by every tribal lineage that lives in Ogaadeeniya in the 1930s until the Ciidagale were appalled at the disgraceful submission of the Habar Yoonis.

Dhulbahante had access to WArdheer since the beggining of time but their traditional lands fall short of that. Danood region is the farthest permanent Dhulbahante settlement. Before the English came all approaches to Doolo region were sealed off by Dhulbahante settlements and no Isaaqs dared to traverse Dhulbahante to reach those wells. Even if they were dying of thirst.

Wadada loo maraa wed yaale
Wardheer dal wanaagsanaydaa

Wed = Dhulbahante = dealers of death


But when they needed to they settled permanently if they had to. Such was the case with the Reer Hagar Fallaago who became the bane and blight of life in British Somaliland. Their permanent settlement was at Uubataale south of Wardheer. Uubataale is one of the 7 wells of Hara Doollo. (Wardheer, Walwaal, waafdhuug, Uubataale, Afyaraado, Garloogube and another one)

Go and beg some Gargaar Qamadi you famine stricken charity case

[LiQaaye_TDH]

When the hell did Dhillos reach Dannod?

The only Hawd settlements they have ever seen is 3 tuulos 20 km south of Buuhodle and you trying to tell us their donkeys’ and sheep’s graze outside Danood…..

[Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah]

[quote]You were abused and assaulted by every tribal lineage that lives in Ogaadeeniya in the 1930s until the Ciidagale were appalled at the disgraceful submission of the Habar Yoonis. [/quote]

[X.Playa]

Dawladsade,

Somali oral history and the colonial masnuscript do not conterdict one another , only Daarood revisonest would have us beleive otherwise, this isn't some hunderd years ago this merely 80 years ago , you can still find somali old men who remember the first Mareexaan cow brought into Wardheer never mind person.

The Mareexaan came into the Hawd via the Italians there is no argument about that, they have never ventured out of Ribadle area prior to 1935 in modern Hiiraan side of Ethopia, in fact they were raided in their on area, both Daarood oral history in particular the Xaarti such as Samatar Baxnaan and the Ogaadeen Maxamed Cumar Dage attest to that.

I don't get my history from some white guy called I.M Lewis sitting in a libarary in some western city , in order to understand the power of oral history you have to read and compare both.

There was no Daarood supramacy before the Italian invasion of Ethopia, the Daarood were the foot soliders , the Harti/Mareexaan in particular, even the entire war of 1935 took place due to Harti been raided by the Ogaadeen in Wal Waal incident where they then complained to thier Italian master to wrestle their looted herds from the Ogaadeen hense the Italian invasion of 1935 using the Xaarti looted property as an excuse to invade. Eeven that account from the colonial side and somali oral history is concurent.Only after 1935 did the Daarood via their alleigence to the Italian colonials and Ethopia did they emerge as major players in Western Somali politics.

To understand fully the Daaroods politics during the British/Italian colonial years , you can read the account by the British colonial officior Douglas Collins in his book Tears For Somalia. as soon as the Italians were defeated in 1945 the pro-Italian Daarood swiched alliegence to their new masters , Maxamed Boqor Cismaan the Xaarti king of 1945 welcomed the new victorious British colonial officior Douglas Collins by sending of his daughter Amina Maxamed Boqor as nothing but a mistress. When Douglas Collins rejected this new welcome the Daarood spread the roumers that he was a gay , the Daarood argued that it was a common culture since the arrivals of the Italians in 1890 that the local colonial officior should have a Daarood mistress.

In his book he later explaines the motive behind this queer arrangments when the Daarood and some Midgo clans fought over a date farm in Caluula Amina Boqor Cismaan the daughter of the Sultan and the mistress urged Collins to side with her kins , Collins was quick to make it clear that he would not do so saying " you are here as my mistress not as my colonial advisor"

[Cilmiile]

[quote="LiQaaye_TDH"]When the hell did Dhillos reach Dannod?

The only Hawd settlements they have ever seen is 3 tuulos 20 km south of Buuhodle and you trying to tell us their donkeys’ and sheep’s graze outside Danood…..[/quote]


Ask your Ethiopian Grandmother.

The Abbysynian Slave



DawladSade

XaarPlaya and the Habar Yoonis are probably angry about the time they killed each over the subag they bought from Mareexaan in the 30s. 50 Habar Yoonis took part in that series of poems where they were arguing about the quality of the Subag from the Mareexaan. One of them said if it was so bad why did you eat all of it

Hareeraa ka leefkii waatay gacantu haarowday
Waatay fartuna hilib dalqaa sii haraatidaye
Ninse hungurigiisa wixii maray hiifay waa qadafe


One guy tried to blame the Mareexaan but another defended them

Mareexaan inaan dulmiyo maanka kuma hayne and then goes on to describe how poor and destitute the Habar Yoonis are

Uus Miirka kama maaranoo waa mitiminaaye
Kol baa garowga naaguhu miraan magas ahaadaaye
Waw macadis ruuxii dibjiray madax Ugaadheede

They were drinking from Uusmiir(the place where camels collect their water reserves; they kill their animals and drink from there)

And they also Madax Ugaadheed Somalis dont eat the head

This is a worse shame than fighting over donated Qamadi

[DawladSade]

Ok then you talk about oral history and I tell you I AM the oral history. You are talking to man whose mother is born in Galaadi, his father is born in Khalaafo, both his grandfathers born in WARDHEER and his great-grandfathers buried in Sool. You are talking to I who is a great-nephew of Cali Dhuux. How can I continue to debate with you and waste my time when both European sources and my OWN family history stands against you??? It is ridiculous and I might as well waste my time on purpose.

[DawladSade]

[quote="Cilmiile"]DawladSade

XaarPlaya and the Habar Yoonis are probably angry about the time they killed each over the subag they bought from Mareexaan in the 30s. 50 Habar Yoonis took part in that series of poems where they were arguing about the quality of the Subag from the Mareexaan. One of them said if it was so bad why did you eat all of it

Hareeraa ka leefkii waatay gacantu haarowday
Waatay fartuna hilib dalqaa sii haraatidaye
Ninse hungurigiisa wixii maray hiifay waa qadafe


One guy tried to blame the Mareexaan but another defended them

Mareexaan inaan dulmiyo maanka kuma hayne and then goes on to describe how poor and destitute the Habar Yoonis are

Uus Miirka kama maaranoo waa mitiminaaye
Kol baa garowga naaguhu miraan magas ahaadaaye
Waw macadis ruuxii dibjiray madax Ugaadheede

They were drinking from Uusmiir(the place where camels collect their water reserves; they kill their animals and drink from there)

And they also Madax Ugaadheed Somalis dont eat the head

This is a worse shame than fighting over donated Qamadi[/quote]


ninyaho ilaahaan kugu dhaariyee ma kaa dhab baa

[Cilmiile]

[quote="X.Playa"]Dawladsade,

Somali oral history and the colonial masnuscript do not conterdict one another , only Daarood revisonest would have us beleive otherwise, this isn't some hunderd years ago this merely 80 years ago , you can still find somali old men who remember the first Mareexaan cow brought into Wardheer never mind person.

The Mareexaan came into the Hawd via the Italians there is no argument about that, they have never ventured out of Ribadle area prior to 1935 in modern Hiiraan side of Ethopia, in fact they were raided in their on area, both Daarood oral history in particular the Xaarti such as Samatar Baxnaan and the Ogaadeen Maxamed Cumar Dage attest to that.

I don't get my history from some white guy called I.M Lewis sitting in a libarary in some western city , in order to understand the power of oral history you have to read and compare both.

There was no Daarood supramacy before the Italian invasion of Ethopia, the Daarood were the foot soliders , the Harti/Mareexaan in particular, even the entire war of 1935 took place due to Harti been raided by the Ogaadeen in Wal Waal incident where they then complained to thier Italian master to wrestle their looted herds from the Ogaadeen hense the Italian invasion of 1935 using the Xaarti looted property as an excuse to invade. Eeven that account from the colonial side and somali oral history is concurent.Only after 1935 did the Daarood via their alleigence to the Italian colonials and Ethopia did they emerge as major players in Western Somali politics.

To understand fully the Daaroods politics during the British/Italian colonial years , you can read the account by the British colonial officior Douglas Collins in his book Tears For Somalia. as soon as the Italians were defeated in 1945 the pro-Italian Daarood swiched alliegence to their new masters , Maxamed Boqor Cismaan the Xaarti king of 1945 welcomed the new victorious British colonial officior Douglas Collins by sending of his daughter Amina Maxamed Boqor as nothing but a mistress. When Douglas Collins rejected this new welcome the Daarood spread the roumers that he was a gay , the Daarood argued that it was a common culture since the arrivals of the Italians in 1890 that the local colonial officior should have a Daarood mistress.

In his book he later explaines the motive behind this queer arrangments when the Daarood and some Midgo clans fought over a date farm in Caluula Amina Boqor Cismaan the daughter of the Sultan and the mistress urged Collins to side with her kins , Collins was quick to make it clear that he would not do so saying " you are here as my mistress not as my colonial advisor" [/quote]


XaarPlaya

The Mareexaan lived in Nugaal and Hawd right next to the Dhulbahante in the 1850s and that is the map that Wayne Durrill is reconstructing. Durrill is contemporary historian of the Majeerteen and their brilliant history. His essay can be found on JSTOR. His history is recounted from the writing of Revoil the Majeerteen and Cruttenden.

The Mareexaan were never friendly with the Italians and fought alongside the Majeerteen when the Italians were trying to destroy the Majeerteen Kingdoms. The father of Maxamed Siyaad died during those wars.

Later on the Mareexaan formed the backbone of the British Military Administration soldiers. Siyaad himself was one. But higher than him was Siciid Samatar Nuunuule(the father of Gacaliye) who died in Action against Dhulbahante near Gallaadi.

Mareexaan have bigger beautiful lands than your drought and famine stricken Qamadi charity cases. They are the masters of GEdo and Jubbaland.


What are you? a spy for Riyaale and a charity Qamadi case. When u are not trying to drink from Uusmiirka


As for the Majeerteen, Douglas Collins book is pure fantasy. Have you read the book or have you read the second hand version laid down by the Daarood hater Oromo? the Same guy who devoted chapters to abusing and debunking Sayid Maxamed and last december was reciting Sayid Poetry in a call to JIhaad nationalist arms

YOu are too ridiculous.

Daarood are your masters. And will remain forever your masters. The only uncertainty is the identity of the Darod subclan that will lord it over you .