is somaliweyn a myth?

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

The old Walashma Dynasty was Daarood

they were Walashma Daarood, they are Extinct...

[musika man]

ahmed gurey was ayr habargedir, and his re-incarnation is indhocadde. ask azzam.

[FAH1223]

[quote="Phd in naago kudis"]fah1223

i just dont wannabe a member of someliweyn or somalia ever

i will be somalilander for the rest of my live

i just brought in the xabashi thing just to show how much i hate the idea of somaliweyn that is all[/quote]

Ever is a very bold statement.

I think you are just fearful because of the crazy mooryan running in the south and of every politician wanting to be an authoritarian.

You fear history repeating itself.

Though I can 100% understand that.

[SummerRain]

loool, Look around this place and you have your answer. I definitely dont believe it is a myth but it surely is not something that will come anytime soon,especially if we continue to demonstrate such empty pride and arrogance towards one another.

[FAH1223]

[quote="Ismahan123"]loool, Look around this place and you have your answer. I definitely dont believe it is a myth but it surely is not something that will come anytime soon,especially if we continue to demonstrate such empty pride and arrogance towards one another.[/quote]

well said

[X.Playa]

Awdal King ,

You are way of the chart my freind, Candhoole had the better of you for not known what clan he belongs, he is a Kuumbo of the Dhilobadane sub-clan from Las Anus. Among their outlandish claim is any man's shaft as their holly mountian, they have no limitation in their fantasy, today its Xaarle Koombe tommorrow it could be Kaadii Le Koombe.

The Daarood have absolutly no contribution to somaliweyn advancement, as early as late 1940's the Daarood were campaigning for a prolonoged Italian stay in Somalia , Cabdirashiid Sharmaarke and his sultan Maxamed Boqor Cusmaan and his southern Daaroods argued for a 30 years extension of the Italian mandate, while the Hawiye lead by Cabdilaahi Ciise fought tooth and nail to excise the Italian colonial cancer from the south.

The Daarood in the north the minority Harti under Garaad Cali Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali Garaad Maxamuud opted for an independent Somaliland and opposed any unification of Somalia , they were allied with Xaaji Ibraahin Cigaal who was pushing for an independent Somaliland, they opposed the hardcore pro-unionest UNF lead by Micheal Mariamo.

Whereas the Daarood in Western Somalia were pro-Ethopian empire , by having the highest ministerial position for any Somalis the Daarood in Ethopia were literaly Haila Salaasi's cock messuses. The Ethopian interior minister was Cabdiraxmaan Seyid Cabdulle Xasan (son of Mad Mullah) , Heila Salaasi's personnel translator was Faarax Xayd ( a Dhilos pet) and Cumar Samatar Rooble ( a Majeerteen) was Haila Salaal's somali affairs advisorand tongue.

In May 1960 when Pro-Somaliweyn Isaaq delegations ( Sultan Cabdilaahi of the Ciidagale, Dube Cali Yare, Micheal Mariama , Maxamed Xaaji Ibraahin Cigaal) visited the Ethopian capital in direct talk with Heila Silaasi, the above mentioned Daarood clowns were sitted in all 4 direction around the emperor arguing against the Somaliweyn idea, when Haila Silaasi luaghed ridiculing the Somali claim in heated argument with Micheal Mariama all the Daarood were laughing , when the Emperor frowned all his monkey Kuumbo frowned, surrounded by over 9 Pro-Ethopian Daarood cheifs Heila Silaasi finally ended his talks with the Isaaq delegation with this question , trunning to his interior minister Cabdiraxmaan Saydi Cabdulle Xasan he asked with confidence:

Minister would tell the Somaliland delegation wether your father (Mad Mullah) was a Somali nationalist or an Ethopian one?

needless to say the treachourse Kuumbo asnwered in positive to the Ethopian sending a wave or roaring laughter among all the Kuumbo cheifs.

Daarood and Somaliweyn are an utter antithesis.

[King-of-Awdal]

[quote="X.Playa"]Awdal King ,

You are way of the chart my freind, Candhoole had the better of you for not known what clan he belongs, he is a Kuumbo of the Dhilobadane sub-clan from Las Anus. Among their outlandish claim is any man's shaft as their holly mountian, they have no limitation in their fantasy, today its Xaarle Koombe tommorrow it could be Kaadii Le Koombe.

The Daarood have absolutly no contribution to somaliweyn advancement, as early as late 1940's the Daarood were campaigning for a prolonoged Italian stay in Somalia , Cabdirashiid Sharmaarke and his sultan Maxamed Boqor Cusmaan and his southern Daaroods argued for a 30 years extension of the Italian mandate, while the Hawiye lead by Cabdilaahi Ciise fought tooth and nail to excise the Italian colonial cancer from the south.

The Daarood in the north the minority Harti under Garaad Cali Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali Garaad Maxamuud opted for an independent Somaliland and opposed any unification of Somalia , they were allied with Xaaji Ibraahin Cigaal who was pushing for an independent Somaliland, they opposed the hardcore pro-unionest UNF lead by Micheal Mariamo.

Whereas the Daarood in Western Somalia were pro-Ethopian empire , by having the highest ministerial position for any Somalis the Daarood in Ethopia were literaly Haila Salaasi's cock messuses. The Ethopian interior minister was Cabdiraxmaan Seyid Cabdulle Xasan (son of Mad Mullah) , Heila Salaasi's personnel translator was Faarax Xayd ( a Dhilos pet) and Cumar Samatar Rooble ( a Majeerteen) was Haila Salaal's somali affairs advisorand tongue.

In May 1960 when Pro-Somaliweyn Isaaq delegations ( Sultan Cabdilaahi of the Ciidagale, Dube Cali Yare, Micheal Mariama , Maxamed Xaaji Ibraahin Cigaal) visited the Ethopian capital in direct talk with Heila Silaasi, the above mentioned Daarood clowns were sitted in all 4 direction around the emperor arguing against the Somaliweyn idea, when Haila Silaasi luaghed ridiculing the Somali claim in heated argument with Micheal Mariama all the Daarood were laughing , when the Emperor frowned all his monkey Kuumbo frowned, surrounded by over 9 Pro-Ethopian Daarood cheifs Heila Silaasi finally ended his talks with the Isaaq delegation with this question , trunning to his interior minister Cabdiraxmaan Saydi Cabdulle Xasan he asked with confidence:

Minister would tell the Somaliland delegation wether your father (Mad Mullah) was a Somali nationalist or an Ethopian one?

needless to say the treachourse Kuumbo asnwered in positive to the Ethopian sending a wave or roaring laughter among all the Kuumbo cheifs.

Daarood and Somaliweyn are an utter antithesis.[/quote]


And all this time he was claiming H/Y so basically i wasted my time arguing with an unknown CRAP.

[Warsame101]

Cilmiile, the only Kablalax in Imam Axmed Gurey's armies were Harti and Gerri Koombe

Mareexaan consisted a majority of his forces, and the commander of the Somali forces (Mareexaan, Gerri, Harti, Dir, Habar Magaadle) was none other than a Mareexaan named Hiraab.


It is written in Futuh al-Habasha:

"After this, the Imam made preparations for Jihad against Abyssinia, assembling his troops and the Somalis with their leader, Hirabu (Mareexaan)."

[Cilmiile]

[quote="X.Playa"]Awdal King ,

You are way of the chart my freind, Candhoole had the better of you for not known what clan he belongs, he is a Kuumbo of the Dhilobadane sub-clan from Las Anus. Among their outlandish claim is any man's shaft as their holly mountian, they have no limitation in their fantasy, today its Xaarle Koombe tommorrow it could be Kaadii Le Koombe.

The Daarood have absolutly no contribution to somaliweyn advancement, as early as late 1940's the Daarood were campaigning for a prolonoged Italian stay in Somalia , Cabdirashiid Sharmaarke and his sultan Maxamed Boqor Cusmaan and his southern Daaroods argued for a 30 years extension of the Italian mandate, while the Hawiye lead by Cabdilaahi Ciise fought tooth and nail to excise the Italian colonial cancer from the south.

The Daarood in the north the minority Harti under Garaad Cali Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali Garaad Maxamuud opted for an independent Somaliland and opposed any unification of Somalia , they were allied with Xaaji Ibraahin Cigaal who was pushing for an independent Somaliland, they opposed the hardcore pro-unionest UNF lead by Micheal Mariamo.

Whereas the Daarood in Western Somalia were pro-Ethopian empire , by having the highest ministerial position for any Somalis the Daarood in Ethopia were literaly Haila Salaasi's cock messuses. The Ethopian interior minister was Cabdiraxmaan Seyid Cabdulle Xasan (son of Mad Mullah) , Heila Salaasi's personnel translator was Faarax Xayd ( a Dhilos pet) and Cumar Samatar Rooble ( a Majeerteen) was Haila Salaal's somali affairs advisorand tongue.

In May 1960 when Pro-Somaliweyn Isaaq delegations ( Sultan Cabdilaahi of the Ciidagale, Dube Cali Yare, Micheal Mariama , Maxamed Xaaji Ibraahin Cigaal) visited the Ethopian capital in direct talk with Heila Silaasi, the above mentioned Daarood clowns were sitted in all 4 direction around the emperor arguing against the Somaliweyn idea, when Haila Silaasi luaghed ridiculing the Somali claim in heated argument with Micheal Mariama all the Daarood were laughing , when the Emperor frowned all his monkey Kuumbo frowned, surrounded by over 9 Pro-Ethopian Daarood cheifs Heila Silaasi finally ended his talks with the Isaaq delegation with this question , trunning to his interior minister Cabdiraxmaan Saydi Cabdulle Xasan he asked with confidence:

Minister would tell the Somaliland delegation wether your father (Mad Mullah) was a Somali nationalist or an Ethopian one?

needless to say the treachourse Kuumbo asnwered in positive to the Ethopian sending a wave or roaring laughter among all the Kuumbo cheifs.

Daarood and Somaliweyn are an utter antithesis.[/quote]


XarPlaya

Axmed Gurey was Daarood and all his armies were Daarood. The only Isaaq in there were Habar Magaadle(all of them lumped together because there were 9000 Isaaqs at the time) and the biggest of them the Habar Awal ran away only for the Imaam and his Daarood soldiers to go beat them back into line. Read all about it in Futuux al Xabasha

The Greatest contribution and point of Pride for your Xaarxajis in 1940 was to brag that you defied Archer and his attempt to tax you in your own land

You didnt brag that you tried to evict Archer from Somalia. Just that you tried (and failed) to stop him from taxing you. You stupid and lowclass Xaarxajis. I cant figure out which is worse:your stupidity or foolishness.

You brag about some scummy Isaaq fool with the Name Michael Maryama luuli as a emissary. Dhulbahante alone lost 300,000 in order to prevent more Isaaq children with names like

Michael Maryama Luuli

Anthony Maryama Luuli

Anthony James

Faarax George

all of them real Isaaqs.

[Navy9]

[quote="Cilmiile>> XarPlaya

Axmed Gurey was Daarood and all his armies were Daarood. [/quote]

"There are numerous passages in the Futuh where Imam Ahmad and the Somali people are mentioned together, and never once does 'Arab Faqih mention the ethnic connection. Further, the Somali warriors are described as having fled during the Battle of Shimbra Kure; had the Imam been Somali, would the Futuh which otherwise praises the Imam at every turn, mention this embarrassing detail?"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Ibrihim_al-Ghazi

[Cilmiile]

[quote="Navy9"][quote="Cilmiile>> XarPlaya

Axmed Gurey was Daarood and all his armies were Daarood. [/quote]

"There are numerous passages in the Futuh where Imam Ahmad and the Somali people are mentioned together, and never once does 'Arab Faqih mention the ethnic connection. Further, the Somali warriors are described as having fled during the Battle of Shimbra Kure; had the Imam been Somali, would the Futuh which otherwise praises the Imam at every turn, mention this embarrassing detail?"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Ibrihim_al-Ghazi[/quote]


Xarla Koombe dont speak Somali. That is why the Arab guy was confused. He mistook the Imaam's lack of facility with Somaali language as evidence of ethnic dissimilarity. The Imaam was Xarla Koombe and Xarla Koombe are the brothers of the might Harti Koombe, the natural rulers of Somalis.

[kadarre]

Xarla Koombe

Never heard of them.

[Cilmiile]

[quote="kadarre"]Xarla Koombe [/quote]

No more risible than Wacbuudhan or Ujeejeen

[X.Playa]

Candho blubber,

You can't refute all the above, i have never mentioned any where in my post Imaam Guray, its strange you had the urge to convince me he was one of your Xaarle clans. As far as iam concerned all Daaroods are Xaarle in one incarnations or in another.

There was no Kablalax at all mentioned in Fatax Al Xabasha you were not even born yet never mind Magaado been lumped together at least all 4 western Isaaq clans were mentioned even sub-clans as Habar Awal some 500 years ago and even their sultan. The only Kuumbo clan that was breifly mentioned were the Mareexaan who rebbelled against the Imaam and had to be taught a lesson and a lesson they were taught, they fled the fighting and they were brought back in line by force and corecion.

Trying to convince us by faith and fantasy that Daarood inahbited Zaylac and Adal in 1530 and not Dir nor Isaaq the immediate clans to Zaylac is pure Kuumbo delussion.

fact is Imaam Axmed Guray wasn't even Somali he was an Adari his decendent still hold the sultan title in Harar uptoday and trace their geneology all the way to the Imaam without even mentioning anything that is Somali.

But then again you are a Daarood you have no shame in claiming the moon and jupitor , for all i care in claims and counter claim you can claim my rod as a Daarood flying camel.

[kadarre]

NO.

If Xarla Koombe dont speak somali. What language do they speak.