Nur Ibn Mujahid, The Marehan Emir of Harar

[sadeboi]

Its funny, a isaq, who is the concubine of the habeshe talks about majeertaan iyo darood like that. Atleast, Majeertaan use the ethiopians to get what they want, adinka riyaale used the ethiopians to shut you guys up and you willikngly listen.Your just mad ethiopia saw majeertaan to be more worthy to be a partner with then the intoxicated qaldaans you hail from.

Tan kale, come with facts or keep your mouth shuts. See the difference between us and you guys is that we have something to say about our clan because we have history, something to mention; what would they say about you guys, "oh yes, the isaq, our slaves carried us on thier shoulders." What else??

[Warsame101]

SB, Amir Nur was called the 'morning star' which denoted his early rise for the Fajr prayer. His subclan was also called the 'morning star' which was a nickname to remark their piousness in waking up for the Fajr on time. Now, Ahl means family or people and Suha means star, so Suhawyan is a distorted Arabized nickname for Reer Mataan. Since Somalis didn't have a written history until much later, the Muslim Arab chroniclers performed the job and wrote down the nickname for his subclan.

SB, sxb ignore these childish rhetorics of some these kids here. Let us keep the topic clean.

Cilmiile, you are right, Gerri were sent to the Habar Magaadle (not Habar Awal only) and forced them in to submission after they ignored calls to pay taxes.

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

Alle U Naxaristo Amiir Nuur Mujahid and Amiir Axmed Gurey

[xoogSADE14]

Ninkii shalay talin jiray, baa maantana talin.

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

haye Adeer Talino maa raab??

[xoogSADE14]

Adeer kuma fahmine warka ii jilci.

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

Ok... Odaayaho why did you come back??

[xoogSADE14]

Adeer thats no way to talk to your elders!

to answer your q, meeshaan sidii bunkii beey ii qabatay.

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

I am Sadaam

i only respect my Hooyo, everybody else is fair game

[Hiiraan boy]

haye merehano faanka naga joojiyaya

if emir nur was merehan then this good cause he was somali and this good for somali history.

[xoogSADE14]

[quote="Hiiraan boy"]if emir nur was merehan then this good cause he was somali and this good for somali history.[/quote]

Ladies and Gentlemen we have a winner!

[Luq_Ganane]

Geesiga Allahu naxaristo.

[wadaniweyn1]

maybe some ppl would look at mujahiid ahmed gurey differently if he was a certain clan they don't like or wat ever but me i would personally love him and he still would be my hero even if he was not a somali at all for his courage , religious conviction and mujahiidnimo same go's for amir nur whether he was marexaan or not won't make me like him more nor less and i doubt he ever cared about marexaan more then he cared about islam ama somali oo idil

[DawladSade]

[quote="Hiiraan boy"]if emir nur was merehan then this good cause he was somali and this good for somali history.[/quote]

Maashaalah Hiiraan hadaad intaas garatay.


Wadaniweyn, go buy some tampons, raga dhexdooda dumarka looma ogolo inay nacnacleeyaan.

[musika man]

this is what mohamed farah aidid aun writes about ahmed gran aun.

Somalia: From The Dawn of Civilization To The Modern Times

Mohammed Farah Aidid & Dr. Satya Pal Ruhela, 1994

Chapter 8:

Somali Hero - Ahmad Gurey

(1506-43)

In the 16th century, the first great Somali nationalist leader Ahmed Ibn Ibrahim, also called Ahmed Gurey or Ahmed Gran (the Left-handed) emerged on the scene to defend the country from foreign invaders like the Portuguese and the Ethiopians between A.D. 1528 and 1542.

The origin and early history of Ahmed Gran is not clearly known. I.M. Lewis mentions:

"According to one legend popular in Ethiopia, Ahmed Gran was the issue of a Coptic priest and a Muslim harlot. A recent writer has more seriously suggested that the Imam may have belonged to a section of the Bija tribe."1

However, Somali folklore suggests that he was in fact a Darod - son of a Somali woman and an Abyssinian Christian priest. The Somali nation, which considers him to be a great Somali hero, today believes this as a fact.

http://www.civicwebs.com/cwvlib/africa/ ... pter_8.htm

others say.

Ethnicity

Imam Ahmad has traditionally sometimes been interpreted as being an Arab in Ethiopia[1], though he is more often represented as Somali native.[2] The traditional interpretation of his ethnicity as Somali, however, has been challenged. Adal was a multiethnic state comprising Afars and Somalis, as well as the ancestors of the modern Harari. Ewald Wagner postulates that, in fact, "the main population of Adal may have been of Afar stock." [3]

His ethnicity is never explicitly mentioned in the Futuh al-Habasha of Sihab ad-Din Ahmad bin 'Abd al-Qader (otherwise known as 'Arab Faqih), the primary source for his conquests, possibly because it was not important or because the author assumed it was known to his readers. There are a number of clues in the Futuh worth considering.

Many of Imam Ahmdad's relatives are identified. His sister Fardusa is said to have been married to the cheiftain Mattan, who is identified as a Somali unlike her.[4] Imam Ahmdad's brother was Muhammad bin Ibrahim, chieftain of the tribes of Shewa and Hargaya before joining the Imam against Ethiopia.[5] He had a cousin Muhammad bin Ali, whose mother was the Imam's aunt; Muhammad was the Sultan of the Somali tribe of Zarba.[6] Last is his cousin Emir Zeharbui Muhammad, of whose background the Futuh has little to say.[7]

The Futuh mentions one Ibrahim bin Ahmad as a ruler of the Adal Sultanate for three months, whose name suggests that he may be the Imam's father. This Ibrahim is described as one of the Belew people and previously having been the ruler of the town of Hubat.[8] The possible connection between the two is strengthened by the fact that Hubat is later mentioned as one of the power bases of Imam Ahmad (the other being Za'ka).[9]

Then there are numerous occasions where the Futuh supplies evidence for an argument from silence. There are numerous passages in the Futuh where Imam Ahmad and the Somali people are mentioned together, and never once does 'Arab Faqih mention the ethnic connection. Further, the Somali warriors are described as having fled during the Battle of Shimbra Kure; had the Imam been Somali, would the Futuh which otherwise praises the Imam at every turn, mention this embarrassing detail?[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Ibrihim_al-Ghazi

the sheikh was omani.