MAAMUL GOBOLEED CUSUB OO MAR DHAWLAGU DHAWAAQI DOONO? !

[sadeboi]

Hmm..what about jubbaland what do you think of the people there.

[Shirib]

They seem to be mindin their own business. If they can make peace and security for themselves all the power to them.

I don't think the native tribes their like Mareehaan expanding into their land though and if it turns into gumeeysi you can see violence. Further expansion should cease.

[sadeboi]

I keep reminding you Marehan are only their to bring peace and solidarity to the other Jubbaland public, nothing more, we are not trying to expand land. The people of Jubbaland were yearning for peace and we delivered.

[Luq_Ganane]

[quote="sadeboi"]The people of Jubbaland were yearning for peace and we delivered.[/quote]




Sadeboi for president of Jubbaland

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

Its about time.. Follow our footsteps brothers..


Mugadishu will remain Under Somali govermental rule no mamul goboleed due to its diversity of people and importance as a capital.

[Somaliweyn]

Southwestern expansionists accusing others of landgrap...the irony!

Hawiye has been living in Lower Shabelle from the early of 12th century to this day, so how can Southwestern expansionists talk about this?

Lets talk about the landgrab of Baardheere, Luuq and current Jubba affaires.

Southwestern group has been riding the current reactionary wave, placing themselves in the position of been Tigre agent in Jubba affaires. And not to mention the clannist machiavellian policies of Barre of advancing the own clan's interest while at the same time undermining the potential of powerfull Somali groups.


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Shirib,

You are right, Wacdaan has a centuries old alliance with Geledi clan. Together they were the power behind the Geledi city-state.

It is inevitable that Dir groups like Biyamaal and Raxanweyn groups ally themselves with Mudulood as there was a centuries old friendly relationship between these groups.

As for the topic: This issue is an important step in the right direction, But a lot of things need to happen before Hawiye subclans start with the long, but crucial process of peacefull internal development.

[AbdiWahab252]

Galmudug has lead the way.

[King-of-Awdal]

[quote="Dr.Galbeyte."]Its about time.. Follow our footsteps brothers..


Mugadishu will remain Under Somali govermental rule no mamul goboleed due to its diversity of people and importance as a capital.

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I agree to Disagree the city maybe diverse but the true owners should rule and have the say on what happens in the city itself. ill give ya djbouti as an example there are Anfar, Essa, Samaroon and Isaaq there but Essa and Anfar are the rulers since they own the place. its like this some folkz share the City and the others are guest.

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

ill comparison there sxb

hargeysa maxaa xukuma Habar Awal?

Meesha dowlad baa joogto..

But then again ofcurs you would say that ... You dont want somalia to reconcile...to make laughing stock out of reer ilkocas.

I dont blame you..

The somali goverment cannot be based in the backyard of a specific sub sub clan !

[Somaliweyn]

Mudulood shall do its utmost best to prepare Mogadishu city for a future genuine government.

The city is the capital of Somalia...and someone needs to clean it, so why not the majority?




Anyways, this regional administration model based on the reactionary entities of Northwest and Northeast need to be destroyed.

Every Somali group can develop its lands, but should not create paper-states which come under Addis Abbeba control.

How to create these independent, local institutions without falling in the reactionary path of Northwest and Northeast?

Thats the question that needs to be answered.

[King-of-Awdal]

Dr.Galbeyte.

First of all it shows you have no no idea about the Situation of Hargeisa its is shared by thee isaaq sub-clans. First do u ever see a h/jeclo say they will rule Hargeisa nope because the reality is they are reer Bari folkz. Even if there is a goverment it will take time for somalians to heal the wounds they have inflicted of themselves. Somalians know each other and know where each clan lives and came from so lets not kid themselves. ill be the first to tell ya that a non-samaroon or Essa can never rule Awdal.

Anwer me this what makes u say ohh there can be a federal system and you will have Galmadug state or what ever its called and rule it by tribalism yet u say Hamar must be shared, now thats what i call hypocrisy.

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

Awdal boi ...i have been to Hargeysa..

Firstly which clan degan is nearest to hargeysa or surrounds The city..
HJ is based in around Burco.. but yet they have their share as a Somaliland citizen in hargeysa..

This is the situation of Mugadishu.. hawiye clans have their degans..but your suggesting Xamar should be governed by a sub Clan.. ? Thats ridiculous.

Where as i cannot imagine The capital city beying governed by a sub clan when the city is shared.

Study how a federal System works.. before you make any ol comparison.

Somaliweyn.. If mudulood was in anypostion to clean xamar.. then they wouldnt M.dhere wouldn't be escaping assasination attepts almost every other day.

Mudulood power base is in the hands of the warlords...

The reer mugdishu what ever they are ... they need to take their part in cleaning up The city..

Set up a Goverment base in the capital and work with the rest of somalia as a Federal nation.

Galmudug State exercises democratic governance ..Has nothing to do with Clanism.

You can't blame the majority of the degan having a strong influence.

[Luq_Ganane]

Xamar is the capitol of Somalia, PERIOD. I could give a damn who lives in the surrounding tuulos. As soon as a Government comes one day, I'm going there and claiming my share just like any other Somali.

[AbdiWahab252]

Luq,

As long as u can prove it was not built with funds stolen from Somali taxpayers

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

Luq

This qaldaan boi is suggesting Somali should live as second class sitizen in Xamar after mudulood...

Sounds like a bad joke to me.