BREAKING NEWS: Benazir Bhutto Killed!!!

[Alluring]

[quote="FAH1223"]

they just don't want to see her rule Pakistan again cause of the past and she is a woman
[/quote]

It has nothing to do with the fact that she was a woman, because she was ALREADY PM. It has to do with the reform of Pakistan, and the Arab stronghold and various interests. Look at Somalia for instance!!!

And if people are scared of women, LOL. I guess Socrates was right!!!!

[Unclebin-]

[quote="Alluring"]Unclebin, I think I know far more than you. You can't even write in complete sentences to be taken seriously! First know the difference between:

THERE, THEIR AND THEY'RE.[/quote]

LOOOOL at how I write.... This is not exactly english class here. I will write how I like to write....


Again have you read Kitab at tawhid?

Do you even know who sheik ibn abdulwahab was? Surely you can't tell me one thing he did that was against the islamic religion..... because frankly you don't even know who the fellow was

[nafisa.bush]

These fundamentalist can't see woman in power. Even though she might have been twice the PM (in 1988 and 1996) at the end of the day she died because the fundamentalist supporters couldnt see her party who they consider ally with United states and the fact that she was also a woman in power.

Typical of savages.

[Unclebin-]

Fah

using terms like Wahabbism is incorrect and should never be hurled against a muslim. Because in todays connotation muslims and non muslims alike throw it around like it's something bad.....

I gurantee you non of you have even read shaik Abdulwahabs Book on the oneness of God. Surely using this wahhabi word is insulting to an muslim.

The sheik was a Muslim who followed the Quran and Sunnah and destroyed all types of bid'ah in Makkah. He broke shrines of the dead because some people used to worship them.

[Kramer]

I had the feeling --as soon as she go back to a country in turmoil between a military dictator and Islamists ---all of a sudden a naked woman from British come in and says I will control a country with Nuclear weapons and become the center of the world attention !
That was bold and naive of her !

[FAH1223]

[quote="Unclebin-"]Fah

using terms like Wahabbism is incorrect and should never be hurled against a muslim. Because in todays connotation muslims and non muslims alike throw it around like it's something bad.....

I gurantee you non of you have even read shaik Abdulwahabs Book on the oneness of God. Surely using this wahhabi word is insulting to an muslim.

The sheik was a Muslim who followed the Quran and Sunnah and destroyed all types of bid'ah in Makkah. He broke shrines of the dead because some people used to worship them.[/quote]

I know about Sheikh Abdulwahab, people in Mecca practiced SHIRK!! Such as using The Prophet SAW as a chain to link to Allah or something like that

i didn't have negative connotations to the sheikh

[Alluring]

Unclebin,

You want to get me to say something, that you yourself are not fully aware of. The man REVISED Islam for his own purpose, and if people are saying "because people didn't pratice it in a correct form" is irrelevant. You can not change something that is not yours to.

[nafisa.bush]

how is she naked? look at this idiot moron claiming a muslim woman naked on her death.

[Gedo_Boy]

There is really no motive for Musharraf to kill Bhutto and risk being discovered like that.

I think it is similar to the aftermath of Rafik Hariri's death in Lebanon.


Within 1 year of Rafik Hariri's death Syrian forces were out of Lebanon and Israeli fighter jets were bombing Beirut.



COINCIDENCE????????

Do you think that Lebanon war started b/c a few soldiers were kidnapped by Hizbollah? In fact, it's even debated if they were in Israel or were told to make incursions into Lebanon.



PEOPLE learn how things are done.

[FAH1223]

[quote="Alluring"]Unclebin,

You want to get me to say something, that you yourself are not fully aware of. The man REVISED Islam for his own purpose, and if people are saying "because people didn't pratice it in a correct form" is irrelevant. You can not change something that is not yours to.[/quote]

he didn't change Islam, he brought back the unity of God back in the sphere

what you are referring to is some of the laws of modern day Saudia

http://muslimmatters.org/2007/04/01/the ... -bogeyman/

[Unclebin-]

[quote="FAH1223"][quote="Unclebin-"]Fah

using terms like Wahabbism is incorrect and should never be hurled against a muslim. Because in todays connotation muslims and non muslims alike throw it around like it's something bad.....

I gurantee you non of you have even read shaik Abdulwahabs Book on the oneness of God. Surely using this wahhabi word is insulting to an muslim.

The sheik was a Muslim who followed the Quran and Sunnah and destroyed all types of bid'ah in Makkah. He broke shrines of the dead because some people used to worship them.[/quote]

I know about Sheikh Abdulwahab, people in Mecca practiced SHIRK!! Such as using The Prophet SAW as a chain to link to Allah or something like that

i didn't have negative connotations to the sheikh[/quote]


Don't use the term wahhabism sxb. Thats all I am saying. They (the west) have everyone believing this sheik was some sort of hardline fanatic and he was against the Quran and sunnah....

I remember myself saying Wahhabi too.... But I realized that I should look up this fellows books and mashallah the english translations are cool.....

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... index.html

^ Translated version.... i haven't finished the book. Inshallah I will.

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

She died and the death of ANYONE shouldnt be celebrated...now she's at the Mercy of Allah SWT and if she said she's Muslim (moderate or not) you should make a duc'a for her

but as for the Islamic legitimacy of her leading a state, it's not a woman's place to lead in Islam. Men and women have different but equally important roles in society and leadership is meant exclusively for men

as for labels like "Wahabi" or "Salafi", they're essentially the same thing but the problem is when the name is used exclusively to describe a certain group of people..when those people make mistakes and have their faults publicized, others associate the errors with "Salafism" or "Wahabism". Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab himself was a Sunni Salafi Muslim and as far as we know, one of the most pious scholars to walk the earth. The Salafs were the group of Muslims immediately after the Prophet SAW's time and the Prophet SAW himself said the best of generations was his, and then those after, and then those after etc. All these labels are just created to further divide Muslims when essentially, a Sunni=Wahabi=Salafi=Muslim

[fisabililah]

This is the women that used to say the shariah was babaric, and she used to promote her kufr.she is not a loss to the muslims.

May Allah (subhanu wa ta'alaa) give her what she deserves.

[FAH1223]

[quote="Unclebin-"]


Don't use the term wahhabism sxb. Thats all I am saying. They (the west) have everyone believing this sheik was some sort of hardline fanatic and he was against the Quran and sunnah....

I remember myself saying Wahhabi too.... But I realized that I should look up this fellows books and mashallah the english translations are cool.....

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamental ... index.html

^ Translated version.... i haven't finished the book. Inshallah I will.[/quote]

jazakallah

you're right

[Unclebin-]

[quote="Alluring"]Unclebin,

You want to get me to say something, that you yourself are not fully aware of. The man REVISED Islam for his own purpose, and if people are saying "because people didn't pratice it in a correct form" is irrelevant. You can not change something that is not yours to.[/quote]

Why are you talking about something you clearly haven't read upon? I keep on asking you tell me one thing he revised? Did he make isha salat 3 raka instead of 4? Did he say zakat was 2 percent instead of 2.5? Did he worship idols?


he didn't change nothing.... He was a person who brought islam to it's pristine state...

People worshipped and asked intercession from Jannat al Baqi where alot of the sahabi where buried....