WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
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LOOOOOOL,
Twisted, seriously did you really summon up mudulood history with "we killed 6, a mere 6 italians?" And that could have been because you wanted sooryo for the abgaal women that crawled into those italian mens homes.
Twisted, seriously did you really summon up mudulood history with "we killed 6, a mere 6 italians?" And that could have been because you wanted sooryo for the abgaal women that crawled into those italian mens homes.
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
Sadeboi,
I was under the impression that your comprehension skills would be better than that XoogSade pigeon hole character who thinks like a five year old. He questioned Mudulood resistance against the Italian invaders and claimed that they did not play any role in fighting them. My response was this:
" At Warsheikh, the center of numerous Abgaal tribe, his visit was the first ever made by an Italian ship. Briefly putting ashore at that small town, crew members of the Volta were given hostile reception . Two men lost their lives, THE FIRST Italians to suffer death at the hands of the Somali"
Again on Page 63 he writes:
"With government approval, Cecchi prepared for an expedition into the interior. His caravan consisted of seventy askaris, Commander Ferdinando Maffei of the Staffetta, Commander Franscesco Mongiardini of the Volturno, and fourteen other Italians, for the most members of the crew of the two ships. That very night their encampment at Lafole, some 12 miles inland was attacked. In the early morning hours,as the caravan got underway it was attacked again. By eight-thirty in the morning of November 26, all but three dead or dying."
What is this less than six people you keep talking about? Clearly, you can see that 18 Italians lost their lives and were forced to retreat. In fact, after the Mudulood assault on the Italians, they even considered leaving Somalia altogether had it not been for an unexpected help from your fellow Darood. If you doubt this, I am more than happy to provide you with references and sources.
It is highly important to step beyond morbid negativity once in a while. The world is not all dark and gloomy.
I was under the impression that your comprehension skills would be better than that XoogSade pigeon hole character who thinks like a five year old. He questioned Mudulood resistance against the Italian invaders and claimed that they did not play any role in fighting them. My response was this:
" At Warsheikh, the center of numerous Abgaal tribe, his visit was the first ever made by an Italian ship. Briefly putting ashore at that small town, crew members of the Volta were given hostile reception . Two men lost their lives, THE FIRST Italians to suffer death at the hands of the Somali"
Again on Page 63 he writes:
"With government approval, Cecchi prepared for an expedition into the interior. His caravan consisted of seventy askaris, Commander Ferdinando Maffei of the Staffetta, Commander Franscesco Mongiardini of the Volturno, and fourteen other Italians, for the most members of the crew of the two ships. That very night their encampment at Lafole, some 12 miles inland was attacked. In the early morning hours,as the caravan got underway it was attacked again. By eight-thirty in the morning of November 26, all but three dead or dying."
What is this less than six people you keep talking about? Clearly, you can see that 18 Italians lost their lives and were forced to retreat. In fact, after the Mudulood assault on the Italians, they even considered leaving Somalia altogether had it not been for an unexpected help from your fellow Darood. If you doubt this, I am more than happy to provide you with references and sources.
It is highly important to step beyond morbid negativity once in a while. The world is not all dark and gloomy.
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Lol, do not try to praise me by insulting my ina-adeers intelligence.
You remind me of the drunken fool x.playa whom after repeatedly showing us ina cismaan boqor's alleged affair with the gaal I asked instead of dedicating your time to the flaws of beelweynta Darood why don't you educate us of your clans history and importance in Somali history. To Somalis 6 iyo 18 waa isku mid. Xoogsade asked you to present your clans history, he gave you the platform and all you could come up with is we killed 6, oops I mean 18 italians, and they almost withdrew from all of Somalia lol. And your telling this to SADEs, who were the reason why Britain signed off Jubbaland to the Italians, and why the Italians never ruled Jubbaland beyond Kismayo port, defeated the Ethiopians and even numerous Somali clans. So again like I gave x.playa the platform, and like my cousin did before, I ask you, inform us of muduloods history and do not bring we killed 6, I mean 18 Italians.
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He will either be a man and present mudulood history that could be acknowledged and respected. Or, he will be like x.playa and keep picking one line of mines and saying irrelevant things such hey "we killed 19 italians not 18, so there!"
You remind me of the drunken fool x.playa whom after repeatedly showing us ina cismaan boqor's alleged affair with the gaal I asked instead of dedicating your time to the flaws of beelweynta Darood why don't you educate us of your clans history and importance in Somali history. To Somalis 6 iyo 18 waa isku mid. Xoogsade asked you to present your clans history, he gave you the platform and all you could come up with is we killed 6, oops I mean 18 italians, and they almost withdrew from all of Somalia lol. And your telling this to SADEs, who were the reason why Britain signed off Jubbaland to the Italians, and why the Italians never ruled Jubbaland beyond Kismayo port, defeated the Ethiopians and even numerous Somali clans. So again like I gave x.playa the platform, and like my cousin did before, I ask you, inform us of muduloods history and do not bring we killed 6, I mean 18 Italians.
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He will either be a man and present mudulood history that could be acknowledged and respected. Or, he will be like x.playa and keep picking one line of mines and saying irrelevant things such hey "we killed 19 italians not 18, so there!"
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
Fool?
''Ciidamadaasi oo tiradoodu gaaraysay 800 oo askari ..ayaa ciidamadaasi waxay ku soo duuleen Dameero ''
looooooooooooool Look no further, the ones that write such crap and actually believe 800 on donkeys could defeat Aideeds 5000+ army armed with heavy weapons must be a fool.
Thats why I dont debate with kids that rely on written crap on Somali websites.
''Ciidamadaasi oo tiradoodu gaaraysay 800 oo askari ..ayaa ciidamadaasi waxay ku soo duuleen Dameero ''
looooooooooooool Look no further, the ones that write such crap and actually believe 800 on donkeys could defeat Aideeds 5000+ army armed with heavy weapons must be a fool.
Thats why I dont debate with kids that rely on written crap on Somali websites.
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[quote="xoogSADE14"]Sxb I'll ask you three simple questions.
How come Mudulood aren't mentioned as having contributed to Imams Axmed and Nuur's jihaads that pretty much gave birth to Somalia?
How come your people didn't take part in the much recent Sayid MAX's Jihaad?
How come your clan has collaborated with every foreign army that came to Somalia from the Italians to Tigres?[/quote]
Xoog-Traitor,
- In Axmed Gureys campaigns Hawiye was represented, and since the various subclans were not mentioned for all I know Mudulood subclans were part of it.
- Mudulood was the first Somali groupn that fought and killed Italians on Somali soil in Warsheekh. The first Italian soldiers to be killed were by Mudulood men.
- Mudulood wasthe first group to start an armed campaign in Benadir against the Italian penetration which lasted from 1896 to 1908. Before Sayyid Muhammed Abdulle's Dervish campaign started.
- About Sayyid Muhammed Abdulle's cause, Mudulood subclans were represented in Hiiraan-Feerfeer (Udejeen), in Balcad and Benadir (Wacdaan, Mobleen and Abgal subclans) etc.
- In SYL times, Mudulood men were on the first lines for the propagation of liberation, and succesfully became the first group to supply fine men to the first Somali Republic, men like the First President, First Somali general and head of army.
- In Dictatorship regime, Mudulood men were on the first line of opposition. Halgamaa Ismaciil Jimcaale propagated democracy and rallyed Mogadishu masses against the oppressive Dictator.
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So dont come to us with fairytales about your own history and that of other people. We are aware of your history and ours. Especially your post-1991 history when the dictatorship was brought to an end, and you had to fight a guerrilla war on donkeys in Ghetto against Aideeds USC-SNA who were chilling in Baardheere for 8 months and conducting Search and Destroy operations. Hence why there are no donkeys left anymore in Ghetto.
How come Mudulood aren't mentioned as having contributed to Imams Axmed and Nuur's jihaads that pretty much gave birth to Somalia?
How come your people didn't take part in the much recent Sayid MAX's Jihaad?
How come your clan has collaborated with every foreign army that came to Somalia from the Italians to Tigres?[/quote]
Xoog-Traitor,
- In Axmed Gureys campaigns Hawiye was represented, and since the various subclans were not mentioned for all I know Mudulood subclans were part of it.
- Mudulood was the first Somali groupn that fought and killed Italians on Somali soil in Warsheekh. The first Italian soldiers to be killed were by Mudulood men.
- Mudulood wasthe first group to start an armed campaign in Benadir against the Italian penetration which lasted from 1896 to 1908. Before Sayyid Muhammed Abdulle's Dervish campaign started.
- About Sayyid Muhammed Abdulle's cause, Mudulood subclans were represented in Hiiraan-Feerfeer (Udejeen), in Balcad and Benadir (Wacdaan, Mobleen and Abgal subclans) etc.
- In SYL times, Mudulood men were on the first lines for the propagation of liberation, and succesfully became the first group to supply fine men to the first Somali Republic, men like the First President, First Somali general and head of army.
- In Dictatorship regime, Mudulood men were on the first line of opposition. Halgamaa Ismaciil Jimcaale propagated democracy and rallyed Mogadishu masses against the oppressive Dictator.
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So dont come to us with fairytales about your own history and that of other people. We are aware of your history and ours. Especially your post-1991 history when the dictatorship was brought to an end, and you had to fight a guerrilla war on donkeys in Ghetto against Aideeds USC-SNA who were chilling in Baardheere for 8 months and conducting Search and Destroy operations. Hence why there are no donkeys left anymore in Ghetto.
Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
"In Axmed Gureys campaigns Hawiye was represented, and since the various subclans were not mentioned for all I know Mudulood subclans were part of it."
Lol, great logic, lol.
"- Mudulood was the first Somali groupn that fought and killed Italians on Somali soil in Warsheekh. The first Italian soldiers to be killed were by Mudulood men.
- Mudulood wasthe first group to start an armed campaign in Benadir against the Italian penetration which lasted from 1896 to 1908. Before Sayyid Muhammed Abdulle's Dervish campaign started.
- About Sayyid Muhammed Abdulle's cause, Mudulood subclans were represented in Hiiraan-Feerfeer (Udejeen), in Balcad and Benadir (Wacdaan, Mobleen and Abgal subclans) etc."
Sources, please and thank you. I am going to be checking out the book twisted is talking about, and you did not know about it until this thread yet your so quick to point it out lol.
Somaliweyn, we will not even speak of the civil war. You are mudulood, iskaba daa your tiny and unknown clan of ujejaan, and your lot were reduced to fighting over sections of xamer, it was not until A/yusef came to you that you actually started to speak about Somali affairs, and look you might have worked hard to topple the Somali government, but a Darood man rules you today.
Lol, great logic, lol.
"- Mudulood was the first Somali groupn that fought and killed Italians on Somali soil in Warsheekh. The first Italian soldiers to be killed were by Mudulood men.
- Mudulood wasthe first group to start an armed campaign in Benadir against the Italian penetration which lasted from 1896 to 1908. Before Sayyid Muhammed Abdulle's Dervish campaign started.
- About Sayyid Muhammed Abdulle's cause, Mudulood subclans were represented in Hiiraan-Feerfeer (Udejeen), in Balcad and Benadir (Wacdaan, Mobleen and Abgal subclans) etc."
Sources, please and thank you. I am going to be checking out the book twisted is talking about, and you did not know about it until this thread yet your so quick to point it out lol.
Somaliweyn, we will not even speak of the civil war. You are mudulood, iskaba daa your tiny and unknown clan of ujejaan, and your lot were reduced to fighting over sections of xamer, it was not until A/yusef came to you that you actually started to speak about Somali affairs, and look you might have worked hard to topple the Somali government, but a Darood man rules you today.
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These kids are truely amazing lol.
This same thread is just a come-back from the humiliating defeat of couple of months ago.
http://pragmaticgal.somalinet.com/forum ... it=Italian
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Anyways,
What sources do you need?
The one of Warsheekh, read Italian Colonialism by Robert L. Hess. About the first Somali armed campaign against European colonialism that started 1896 and was launced by Wacdaan read Robert L. Hess and other sources I gave in this discussion:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=134391&hilit=Axad
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About post-1991, lets not even go there. Mudulood did not lose one inch from the beginning to end. Bermuda defence is historic stance, the same for Medina defence. Or what about Towfiiq/Yaaqshid? And dont come with those were city sections, cause those city sections had more property and were more developed then the whole Gedo region. Documentaries were made about the Bermuda warriors who were in a sea of Gen.Aideeds loyalists, heavily outnumbered and outgunned yet not giving away one inch. While your people were chased out of their own region by an enemy that came from 100s of KM away, and occupied your cities (baardheere etc) for 8 long bitter years. What happened after is not relevant, what matters is: You lost and was occupied....while Mudulood did not lose and stood their ground.
''This is Bermuda, a besieged enclave 8 KM by 5 KM in the heart of Mogadishu. Since the beginning of the war in 1991, the people here have become renowned as fierless fighters, intensely xenophobic. No outsiders are permitted to enter. Though the people here are surrounded and heavily outgunned, they've never been overrun by the enemy forces loyal to General Aideed.''
Documentary: Road Warriors
This same thread is just a come-back from the humiliating defeat of couple of months ago.
http://pragmaticgal.somalinet.com/forum ... it=Italian
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Anyways,
What sources do you need?
The one of Warsheekh, read Italian Colonialism by Robert L. Hess. About the first Somali armed campaign against European colonialism that started 1896 and was launced by Wacdaan read Robert L. Hess and other sources I gave in this discussion:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=134391&hilit=Axad
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About post-1991, lets not even go there. Mudulood did not lose one inch from the beginning to end. Bermuda defence is historic stance, the same for Medina defence. Or what about Towfiiq/Yaaqshid? And dont come with those were city sections, cause those city sections had more property and were more developed then the whole Gedo region. Documentaries were made about the Bermuda warriors who were in a sea of Gen.Aideeds loyalists, heavily outnumbered and outgunned yet not giving away one inch. While your people were chased out of their own region by an enemy that came from 100s of KM away, and occupied your cities (baardheere etc) for 8 long bitter years. What happened after is not relevant, what matters is: You lost and was occupied....while Mudulood did not lose and stood their ground.
''This is Bermuda, a besieged enclave 8 KM by 5 KM in the heart of Mogadishu. Since the beginning of the war in 1991, the people here have become renowned as fierless fighters, intensely xenophobic. No outsiders are permitted to enter. Though the people here are surrounded and heavily outgunned, they've never been overrun by the enemy forces loyal to General Aideed.''
Documentary: Road Warriors
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
[quote="Somaliweyn"]These kids are truely amazing lol.
This same thread is just a come-back from the humiliating defeat of couple of months ago.
http://pragmaticgal.somalinet.com/forum ... it=Italian
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Anyways,
What sources do you need?
The one of Warsheekh, read Italian Colonialism by Robert L. Hess. About the first Somali armed campaign against European colonialism that started 1896 and was launced by Wacdaan read Robert L. Hess and other sources I gave in this discussion:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=134391&hilit=Axad
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About post-1991, lets not even go there. Mudulood did not lose one inch from the beginning to end. Bermuda defence is historic stance, the same for Medina defence. Or what about Towfiiq/Yaaqshid? And dont come with those were city sections, cause those city sections had more property and were more developed then the whole Gedo region. Documentaries were made about the Bermuda warriors who were in a sea of Gen.Aideeds loyalists, heavily outnumbered and outgunned yet not giving away one inch. While your people were chased out of their own region by an enemy that came from 100s of KM away, and occupied your cities (baardheere etc) for 8 long bitter years. What happened after is not relevant, what matters is: You lost and was occupied....while Mudulood did not lose and stood their ground.
''This is Bermuda, a besieged enclave 8 KM by 5 KM in the heart of Mogadishu. Since the beginning of the war in 1991, the people here have become renowned as fierless fighters, intensely xenophobic. No outsiders are permitted to enter. Though the people here are surrounded and heavily outgunned, they've never been overrun by the enemy forces loyal to General Aideed.''
Documentary: Road Warriors
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you and twisted logic were doing just fine against the 5 maroxaar piglets b4 you shot urself in the foot and started bad mouthing ur "own " etc , caydiid and h/gidir and thats so sad.
This same thread is just a come-back from the humiliating defeat of couple of months ago.
http://pragmaticgal.somalinet.com/forum ... it=Italian
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Anyways,
What sources do you need?
The one of Warsheekh, read Italian Colonialism by Robert L. Hess. About the first Somali armed campaign against European colonialism that started 1896 and was launced by Wacdaan read Robert L. Hess and other sources I gave in this discussion:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=134391&hilit=Axad
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About post-1991, lets not even go there. Mudulood did not lose one inch from the beginning to end. Bermuda defence is historic stance, the same for Medina defence. Or what about Towfiiq/Yaaqshid? And dont come with those were city sections, cause those city sections had more property and were more developed then the whole Gedo region. Documentaries were made about the Bermuda warriors who were in a sea of Gen.Aideeds loyalists, heavily outnumbered and outgunned yet not giving away one inch. While your people were chased out of their own region by an enemy that came from 100s of KM away, and occupied your cities (baardheere etc) for 8 long bitter years. What happened after is not relevant, what matters is: You lost and was occupied....while Mudulood did not lose and stood their ground.
''This is Bermuda, a besieged enclave 8 KM by 5 KM in the heart of Mogadishu. Since the beginning of the war in 1991, the people here have become renowned as fierless fighters, intensely xenophobic. No outsiders are permitted to enter. Though the people here are surrounded and heavily outgunned, they've never been overrun by the enemy forces loyal to General Aideed.''
Documentary: Road Warriors
[/quote]
you and twisted logic were doing just fine against the 5 maroxaar piglets b4 you shot urself in the foot and started bad mouthing ur "own " etc , caydiid and h/gidir and thats so sad.
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
Wadaniweyn, No one is badmouthing HG or other Hawiye subclans. Just historical discussion, what happened already happened. No love lost or hate cherished.
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To all kids restarting closed discussions while thinking that the people forgot about how you were silenced once, These are facts I represented a while ago, and I believe there is no point to start new myths (dameero army) while those FACTS were not refuted.
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FACT 1:
-Barre's regime fled Mogadishu on 26 Jan 1991.....
-Regrouped in March 1991, and staged a counter-offensive to retake Mogadishu Failed Attempt.
FACT 2:
-Barre's remnants went to Kismanyo, Gedo etc were they were busy preparing, while Morgan and others were busy buying weapons from the world market, ofcourse with the huge amount of stolen state money from the banks at the collapse of the government. These weapons came through Kenya, and were even supplied by South Africa (a regime facing collapse itself).
-November 1991: Mudulood vs HG, Aideed had the heavy weapons, Mudulood had the manpower. It was indeed a terrible clash of titans, with more than 14.000 dead, half the city empty. The warmachine of Aideed stopped and reduced to a mere militia.
Fact 3:
-April 1992, Barre's remnants bolstered by the newly bought weapons, and bolstered by the clash of the titans which in their eyes weakened Mogadishu's defence....waged the long-awaited offensive in which they came to Afgoye till they got defeated.
-April 1992, Although all Hawiye subclans defended Mogadishu (With HG-Mudulood burrying their animosity), only Aideeds group allied with diverse groups went after Barre till inside Kenya.
Fact 4:
-Aideed's group even went inside Kenya to hunt them down, at this time it became apparent for the Kenyan authorities that Barre had to go....Hence his flight to Nigeria.
-Aideed set up his HQ in Baardreere, while his group roamed Gedo and harrased them on the border of Kenya.
Fact 5:
-SNF regrouped, with Kenyan military assistance (since the Kenyans wanted Aideed out from their backyard), and retook Gedo after 8 months of occupation.
-Aideeds warmachine which was already weakened by the clash of titans, was still intact after Gedo campaign...hence why these people brag about Col.Shabel killed while on their side many also high-ranking officials died. Would Aideeds group otherwise wage a succesfull determined war against UNISOM/US...and defeat them if they were already ''weakened'' after Gedo campaign? All evidence these people have are folklore of a place they nicknamed ''lafo hawiye'' middle of nowhere This only shows their bitter failure, hence the naming of places to supposedly ''victorious battles''
Fact 6:
-Mudulood still controlled at least 10 out of 16 disticts in Mogadishu, and harrased Aideeds dream of Presidency. When he set up his Salbalaar government, Mudulood waged both political, economic and military campaign against his ''government''
-This campaign culminated into the clash at the Airport, with Muse Suudi's militia and Cusmaan Cato engaging Aideed...and mortally wounding him.
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Those are the facts about 91 affaires and Mudulood's place...I also posted uncountable facts of Mudulood been the first Somali group to fight Italian expansion in Somalia.
Refute those facts with facts instead of vividly written fiction.''
http://pragmaticgal.somalinet.com/forum ... n&start=75
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I have no time to rewrite myself over and over again. The flying dameer-myth has done nothing to refute those historical facts. You will get nothing from me but historical facts and a mature discussion without childesh behaviour. But if you come to me behaving as a kid, then I willt treat you as such and laugh at you and move on.
Good day gentlemen.
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To all kids restarting closed discussions while thinking that the people forgot about how you were silenced once, These are facts I represented a while ago, and I believe there is no point to start new myths (dameero army) while those FACTS were not refuted.
''
FACT 1:
-Barre's regime fled Mogadishu on 26 Jan 1991.....
-Regrouped in March 1991, and staged a counter-offensive to retake Mogadishu Failed Attempt.
FACT 2:
-Barre's remnants went to Kismanyo, Gedo etc were they were busy preparing, while Morgan and others were busy buying weapons from the world market, ofcourse with the huge amount of stolen state money from the banks at the collapse of the government. These weapons came through Kenya, and were even supplied by South Africa (a regime facing collapse itself).
-November 1991: Mudulood vs HG, Aideed had the heavy weapons, Mudulood had the manpower. It was indeed a terrible clash of titans, with more than 14.000 dead, half the city empty. The warmachine of Aideed stopped and reduced to a mere militia.
Fact 3:
-April 1992, Barre's remnants bolstered by the newly bought weapons, and bolstered by the clash of the titans which in their eyes weakened Mogadishu's defence....waged the long-awaited offensive in which they came to Afgoye till they got defeated.
-April 1992, Although all Hawiye subclans defended Mogadishu (With HG-Mudulood burrying their animosity), only Aideeds group allied with diverse groups went after Barre till inside Kenya.
Fact 4:
-Aideed's group even went inside Kenya to hunt them down, at this time it became apparent for the Kenyan authorities that Barre had to go....Hence his flight to Nigeria.
-Aideed set up his HQ in Baardreere, while his group roamed Gedo and harrased them on the border of Kenya.
Fact 5:
-SNF regrouped, with Kenyan military assistance (since the Kenyans wanted Aideed out from their backyard), and retook Gedo after 8 months of occupation.
-Aideeds warmachine which was already weakened by the clash of titans, was still intact after Gedo campaign...hence why these people brag about Col.Shabel killed while on their side many also high-ranking officials died. Would Aideeds group otherwise wage a succesfull determined war against UNISOM/US...and defeat them if they were already ''weakened'' after Gedo campaign? All evidence these people have are folklore of a place they nicknamed ''lafo hawiye'' middle of nowhere This only shows their bitter failure, hence the naming of places to supposedly ''victorious battles''
Fact 6:
-Mudulood still controlled at least 10 out of 16 disticts in Mogadishu, and harrased Aideeds dream of Presidency. When he set up his Salbalaar government, Mudulood waged both political, economic and military campaign against his ''government''
-This campaign culminated into the clash at the Airport, with Muse Suudi's militia and Cusmaan Cato engaging Aideed...and mortally wounding him.
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Those are the facts about 91 affaires and Mudulood's place...I also posted uncountable facts of Mudulood been the first Somali group to fight Italian expansion in Somalia.
Refute those facts with facts instead of vividly written fiction.''
http://pragmaticgal.somalinet.com/forum ... n&start=75
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I have no time to rewrite myself over and over again. The flying dameer-myth has done nothing to refute those historical facts. You will get nothing from me but historical facts and a mature discussion without childesh behaviour. But if you come to me behaving as a kid, then I willt treat you as such and laugh at you and move on.
Good day gentlemen.
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
Xoogsaade is right, when the Barre's [AUN] gov't collapsed in 1991, the USC destroyed everything that it came a cross. I suspect the captured most of Somalia's territory from Mudug to the Kenyan border (they even entered Mandera town!). but then, the were chased out of most these lands. the brave Mareexaan to back Gedo, Kismayo was captured by General Morgan.
My question is: when the SNF retook Gedo, was USC still intact or were they fighting the HG section of USC?
My question is: when the SNF retook Gedo, was USC still intact or were they fighting the HG section of USC?
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
Diplock,
Those were just the SNA sections of USC, thus HG sections alone with couple of Duduble/Sheekhal. Major Hawiye clans stayed out of the conflict. And if you look at the sequence of events, HG was already weakened by the heavy 4 months war. And these kids come with 800 on dameer warrior-myths to us at a time they were facing whole of USC in 1991, in which major clans in Somalia were armed to the teeth with all the heavy weapons..which especially holds for USC who had much of the state weapons.
Those were just the SNA sections of USC, thus HG sections alone with couple of Duduble/Sheekhal. Major Hawiye clans stayed out of the conflict. And if you look at the sequence of events, HG was already weakened by the heavy 4 months war. And these kids come with 800 on dameer warrior-myths to us at a time they were facing whole of USC in 1991, in which major clans in Somalia were armed to the teeth with all the heavy weapons..which especially holds for USC who had much of the state weapons.
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
800 soldiers on donkeys l@@@@@@l war ileen afka xaarka xaarood xaad maleh . next time naa waxay odhanayaan 800 nin oo bisaado wata baa meel heblaa qabsaday lol. inta ay beenta inta le'eg sheegayeena ma atleast fardo sheegtaan instead of donkeys and wax an jiriin.
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
Somaliwayne,
The facts and historical documents that you have presented are enough to last these delusionals the duration of their life. These Marehan parrots can rhapsodize about house-hold fairy-tales over and over but they wont change historical facts by quoting Marehan tabloids or loooling one another. Its an exercise in futility.
The facts and historical documents that you have presented are enough to last these delusionals the duration of their life. These Marehan parrots can rhapsodize about house-hold fairy-tales over and over but they wont change historical facts by quoting Marehan tabloids or loooling one another. Its an exercise in futility.
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
Murax, I am loving it man. Look at Somaliweyn. He accused me of bringing that out from the fiction of my imagination. Now after I had gotten the historical account of a Somali political icon, he says I am relying on "internet sources". I love it wallahi! Caqi Hawiye at its most supreme kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk. My intention was not to have two individual's from arguably Somalia's most abused and used labor dog of a clan AGREE with the reality of the ground as much as actually PRESENT it. I am satisfied knowing they now know the truth if they did not already. I mean what do I expect?
These were kids born in the poorest quarters of Somalia. Vagrants of the highest order who never had information of anything important in Somalia if their live depended on it.
People whose status amounted to nothing more than today's trailer trash.
That is the reality of their lives compared to me since time immemorial.
These were kids born in the poorest quarters of Somalia. Vagrants of the highest order who never had information of anything important in Somalia if their live depended on it.
People whose status amounted to nothing more than today's trailer trash.
That is the reality of their lives compared to me since time immemorial.
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Re: WHERE IS THAT FOOL SOMALIWEYN??
Murax, look at this time-line. It backs up everything I have said in this timeline in the hopes of educating the chihuahua.
First of all, it speaks correctly about this incident which propelled Mareexaan to going as far as Afgooye fighting against ALL of Hawiye before the UNISOM! The SNF was defeated by an alliance of USC (Hawiye), SDM (Raxanweyn), and SPM (Ogaadeen). Exactly as I have said.
Then it talks about the beginning of UNISOM.
Then it talks about the SLF (alliance of USC, SPM, and SDM) going after Mareexaan all the way to the border and taking Kismaayo from them.
Then it talks about Mareexaan getting back all the lands.
Then it talks about UNISOM and Mareexaan fighting for control in Kismaayo.
Btw guess who called on the UN forces to help them defeat the Darood???
.
---"12/1991 Ali Mahdi asks UN to send peacekeeping force"
---"4/1992 SNF's advance on Mogadishu repelled by Aideed's forces; Barre flees Somalia (dies in Nigeria in 1995) "---
---"5/1992 Aideed forms SLA military alliance with other groups including SPM and SDM, which captures Kismayo from SNF "---
---"1/1993 33,000 UNITAF troops in Somalia; UN-organised peace negotiations in Addis Ababa attended by 14 groups "---
---"2/1993 UNITAF forces clash with SNF in Kismayo and with armed youths in Mogadishu "---
---"4/1993 SNF recaptures Kismayo "---
In Aprile of 1993, we once again captured Kismaayo from the UNITAF, when at first it was ciidanki dameeraleyda.
Look when Hawiye first splintered...in 1994 like I said! The vagrants were chased out of everywhere by Mareexaan and so turned among themselves for supremacy in Mogadishu.
---"3/1994 Cease-fire agreement signed in Nairobi between SSA and Aideed but agreement soon broken
6/1994 Further heavy fighting in Mogadishu between Aideed and Ali Mahdi supporters "---
http://www.madhibaan.org/faq/report-2003-6.htm
First of all, it speaks correctly about this incident which propelled Mareexaan to going as far as Afgooye fighting against ALL of Hawiye before the UNISOM! The SNF was defeated by an alliance of USC (Hawiye), SDM (Raxanweyn), and SPM (Ogaadeen). Exactly as I have said.
Then it talks about the beginning of UNISOM.
Then it talks about the SLF (alliance of USC, SPM, and SDM) going after Mareexaan all the way to the border and taking Kismaayo from them.
Then it talks about Mareexaan getting back all the lands.
Then it talks about UNISOM and Mareexaan fighting for control in Kismaayo.
Btw guess who called on the UN forces to help them defeat the Darood???
.
---"12/1991 Ali Mahdi asks UN to send peacekeeping force"
---"4/1992 SNF's advance on Mogadishu repelled by Aideed's forces; Barre flees Somalia (dies in Nigeria in 1995) "---
---"5/1992 Aideed forms SLA military alliance with other groups including SPM and SDM, which captures Kismayo from SNF "---
---"1/1993 33,000 UNITAF troops in Somalia; UN-organised peace negotiations in Addis Ababa attended by 14 groups "---
---"2/1993 UNITAF forces clash with SNF in Kismayo and with armed youths in Mogadishu "---
---"4/1993 SNF recaptures Kismayo "---
In Aprile of 1993, we once again captured Kismaayo from the UNITAF, when at first it was ciidanki dameeraleyda.
Look when Hawiye first splintered...in 1994 like I said! The vagrants were chased out of everywhere by Mareexaan and so turned among themselves for supremacy in Mogadishu.
---"3/1994 Cease-fire agreement signed in Nairobi between SSA and Aideed but agreement soon broken
6/1994 Further heavy fighting in Mogadishu between Aideed and Ali Mahdi supporters "---
http://www.madhibaan.org/faq/report-2003-6.htm
Last edited by Voltage on Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
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