Beesha Sade on Snet..WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THE K SITUATION

[Murax]

Your hate, not Reer Siyaad, not Reer Kooshin but your hate for Barre.

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The hate that these kids have for Barre stems from subclan level.

Murax, if you can, gar baan qaba, ina dhex gal. Please, try to define what warsame is saying. Because he is lost, and he knows either way eed bu galley!

It can either be, we hate reer-koshin, reer-siyaad hate reer-koshin, or we hate reer-xasan koshin/warsame-guleed, or reer-siyaad hate. Eithier way, warsame, clearly state what you are trying to imply.

I can speculate on what He means, laakin Warsame can clarify His position better than I. That being said, I'm about to be out, and I'm just gonna advice again that this stuff be ended.

[sadeboi]

Warsame, child that second grade belittling attempt will not work, you have uttered something--- which I am sure you wish you did not say-- so if your man, clearly say what you wish to say, I don't want to mis-interpret it.

Btw, the word your looking for is SIMPLIFIED not SIMPLIED.

[Warsame101]

My point:

The hate that these kids have for Barre stems from subclan level.

Simplified:

The hate that these kids have for Barre stems from subclan (i.e. his subclan) level.

Your hate, not Reer Siyaad, not Reer Kooshin but your hate for Barre.

Shall I simplify all my aforementioned points lest you deliberately mis-interpret it?

Warsame wallahi man sometimes you amaze.

The last time I put your name and information down, you attacked me for trying to "run you out of Somalinet" and that I indulge in "exposing, suppositions, etc".

If you remember, I erased your information because I said I am not here to make anyone uncomfortable and told you the truth...which is that you have attempted to expose me much before I did and that you are father of suppositions".

Shib baad tiri, hada hala arko waxaan sheegey.

Waxa qaluubtayda ku jirto kama warqabtid so therefore do not turn around and attempt to turn the gun away from yourself by supposing what is in my heart.

If the implication I had derived from your comment is wrong, simply say so do not excuse it by trying to suppose what is in my heart.

, how many english Islaamic info have you absorbed sxb.

What you are trying to say is since Allaah knows what is in your heart, no one else can judge your intentions.

Wrong, after the Prophet (SCW)'s death, Muslims are judged according to their outward statements and actions.

Your outward statements suggest -> you hate Barre, and have had displayed hatred for him since 2007. Your hatred of him stems from our past little argument -> Fact. But no worries, there are some people in Beesha who hate him based on their complex but the good news is that majority supports him.

[Voltage]

Warsame why is it I always get the feeling you are trying to compete with me or something? All this you absorbed english Islamic or leave Islamic to seniors and other stuff.

War ninyaho fiiri, this is the net, I display my political positions and I comment on other political outlooks...where have I ever mentioned any hatred or any bordering that to Barre??

Even though I truly believe this is only a red herring and you are trying to change the subject from your own implication, the reality is I accurately labeled what I derived from your statement as an "implication" and asked you to clarify.

You turn around and change the subject by trying to peer into my soul.

Mucjiso.

Now you clearly said our problems stem from sub-clan issues and taking what you said previously which was that "Barre's enemies are reer Siyaad and Wagardhac", I came to a conclusion as to what you meant. You clearly did not mean we hate Barre as shaqsi but only attempted to deflect attention away from your statement when I shone light upon it, so can you comment on your implication and just what you meant in reality.

If you plead the 5th...I will understand.

[Lite-Somali]

LISTEN MAN MA OPINION ON KISMAYO IS THE MAREHAN CLAN OR BIRRA HIRALE LIL MILITIA DESERVED EVERY SINGLE EVENT THT HAPPENED TO HIM WE AINT UNITED AS A CLAN AS ONE BIG BEESHA SADE INSTEAD WE BRANCH OFF INTO LIL WARRING SUB CLANS EACH WITHONE INTERESTS AND EACH HAVING SOME BLOOD FEUD OR VENDETTA AGAINST ANOTHA MR SUB CLAN I THINK ANY SINGLE EVENT THT OCCURS TO US WE DESERVE IT THEIR IS NO UNITY SO THEREFORE WE'RE DOOMED TO SUFFER THE FUKIN CONSEQUANCES REAL TALK HOW CAN NIGGGAZ HOLD A CITY LIKE KISMAYO WHEN WE STAND DIVIDED

[Warsame101]

Warsame why is it I always get the feeling you are trying to compete with me or something? All this you absorbed english Islamic or leave Islamic to seniors and other stuff.

War ninyaho fiiri, this is the net, I display my political positions and I comment on other political outlooks...where have I ever mentioned any hatred or any bordering that to Barre??

Even though I truly believe this is only a red herring and you are trying to change the subject from your own implication, the reality is I accurately labeled what I derived from your statement as an "implication" and asked you to clarify.

You turn around and change the subject by trying to peer into my soul.

Mucjiso.

Why on earth should I try to compete with you? What is there to compete?

The reason why I voiced this objection is cause I have seen it before. Remember, I used to own one of the largest Islaamic forum and site. I have seen kids with their inadequate Islaamic knowledge joining the site and trying to preach as they had acquired all the wealth of the Diin.

You are a kid who lacks knowledge of the Diin. There is a methodology of acquiring knowledge from the scholars, make use of it. Islaam is not an article where you can absorb all the info in a single reading siting.

[Warsame101]

"Barre's enemies are reer Siyaad and Wagardhac",

Look at this kid trying to paint a lie against me. Since when did I ever say that?

Provide me the verbatim of that statement, I dare you.

[Voltage]

"Barre's enemies are reer Siyaad and Wagardhac",

Look at this kid trying to paint a lie against me. Since when did I ever say that?

Provide me the verbatim of that statement, I dare you.

Shot-term memory is it sxb?

Perhaps you remember the private Sade forum and your comment after going to a family meeting in Germany...

If you do not remember, there are plenty of witnesses including Murax, Gedoboy, Qansa, Xoogsade, Advo, etc.

[Warsame101]

"Barre's enemies are reer Siyaad and Wagardhac",

Look at this kid trying to paint a lie against me. Since when did I ever say that?

Provide me the verbatim of that statement, I dare you.

Shot-term memory is it sxb?

Perhaps you remember the private Sade forum and your comment after going to a family meeting in Germany...

If you do not remember, there are plenty of witnesses including Murax, Gedoboy, Qansa, Xoogsade, Advo, etc.

I clearly remember what I said there, a statement that you kids grossly disorted it.

Now, quote me the exact statement word for word, where I said what you just implied. Remember, you just made the claim and the burden is on you to prove it.

[sadeboi]

Warsame, this was in the private forum voltage made, I don't know how to get access to it.

Lakiin what you said was "the reason why Marexaan can't get ahead or go forward is because of wagerdhac iyo reer-siyaad, you said in Kismayo reer-siyaad is the fitno, and in cabudwaaq many times baa mamul la isku daye in la dhiso lakiin wagerdhac always created problems," basically reer-siyaad ba Barre iyo Marexaan ka hor istaagsan hormarnimo in Kismayo, and wagerdhac in cabudwaaq, and this was after you came back from the event in germany where you were suppose to meet with Barre and co. but he wasn't there because of visa la'aan or something lakiin, you said "a lot of heavyweight in the SADE community where there" and you've "became enlighten as to why beesha is in such a predicament."


Illahay baa ii arko, waan soomanahay, wallhi you wrote that. Its not something written on gedo section, it was that private site.

[Warsame101]

I pose a question to Voltage, his little brother replies. I pose a question to his little brother, his older brother replies. What are you guys, a computerized twin?

sadeboi, remain on the bench untill I address you. I said the exact verbatim, not what you have just mentioned. That is not what I said . Do not a paint lie against me.

Never in this topic have I painted a lie against anyone and this kids are trying to put one on me.

Verbatim = exact wording. Not your interpretation.

[Voltage]

I clearly remember what I said there, a statement that you kids grossly disorted it.

Please clarify as to what you said then.

You clearly know there is no way to get access to that forum and if my "interpretation" of what you said is "distorted" please go ahead and clarify for us as to what you exactly said.


No red herrings this time.

[sadeboi]

Thats not my interpretation, that is the closest I can get to your word by word comment. You bluntly states such remarks. If you fully remember what you said then tell us.

Question: Did you not clearly state the sub-clans of wagerdhac and reer-siyaad in that comment you posted in the private forum? Which you talked about the reasons as to why beesha has not went forward?

[Warsame101]

I clearly remember what I said there, a statement that you kids grossly disorted it.

Please clarify as to what you said then.

You clearly know there is no way to get access to that forum and if I "interpretation" of what you said is "distorted" please go ahead and clarify for us as to what you exactly said.


No red herrings this time.

You made a claim and you failed to substantiate it. I have let it go the last few times when you kids brought that up, but this time, I will not let it slip.

You can access that forum, you are the admin, go find the exact verbatim and post it here.

Everyone knows here, I am above subclan level. No kid here can ever accuse me of being subclan-minded. I have a blog dedicated to SADE history , I write and translate articles.

The only thing that you kids do on Snet is paint lies and involve yourself in Barre bashing squabbles.

[Advo]

"Barre's enemies are reer Siyaad and Wagardhac",

Look at this kid trying to paint a lie against me. Since when did I ever say that?
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sxb I do remember that wallahi.....I might not take part in this ever going debate (if u can call it), But I do remember when you said, reer-siyaad baa fidna wado and after that point, adiga, sb and vol, have been going at it like back and forth, I ever remember voltage dissing hiraale in that same topic (a really long one), but u did say it.