Who is the most powerful Isaaq leader in somali history

[laander8]

so basically

Ismaail Carre largest
Muse Carre second
Isxaaq Carre third

and Beesha Ciidagale which is separate son of Garxajis is equal/smaller than Isxaaq?
I'm not an expert but something is strange here, thanks anyway..

but hey dont the last one make up large portion of Hargeisa region?,
I thought they had their daan as well in the capital,
does anyone know when ciidagale moved into hargeisa,like was it recent 50 -70 years

maybe I should ask around, its interesting

[laander8]

latest

I've heard from a source that isxaaq is far from equal in size to ciidagale.
they are on same size as some sub clan called guyube of cabdi bari

source is isaaq man

[MrPrestige]

lander8 walaal thats a lie first of all cismaicil carre are not 80 percent of hy that wud be mad that wud mean nearly majority of hy are descendents of cismacil carre i would say cismaicil carre are 40 percent of hy and then 25 percent is musa carre and then 15 percent isxaaq carre and the rest is others
plus no cidagale are far more greater then isxaaq care lool who told you that bullshit cidagale are decent number clan not small and not 2 big but they are not large tribe like habar yonis but i would say they are like musa carre and isxaaq carre put 2gether do not underestimate cidagale they inhabit hafl of hargeisa , hafl of waqooyi galbeed and have large numbers in the hawd then thats impossible they cant be equal 2 isxaaq carre who only live in hargeisa and other surronding east waqooyi galbeed but they aslo can be found in toghedere i think so 2 say cidagalle and isxaaq care is stupidty cidagale are more then that

[laander8]

lool i started a big time discussion in my maqaaxad

Now this reer Odweyne oday is saying his reer is about 10 - 20 % larger than ciidagale,
and then isxaaq carre probably equal to ciidagale or a bit smaller in size.
and the shit hit the fan , this adrahman muusa guy said his sub lineage is greater than all of habar yonis combined in Hargeisa district all the way to Cadaadley and Golis


adrahman musa is ciidagale sub clan

I'm not sure what subclan the oday was, he kept to I am reer Odweeyne

[MrPrestige]

looool dont listen 2 those hype odayal cidagalle is big clan aswell the only differnce is habar yonis is 7 sons descendents
and cidagalle is 4 or 5 sons descendents so cidagale are big aswell

[laander8]

which is largest of habar awal and ciidagale

habar yonis vs habar jeclo

[MrPrestige]

2 be honest habar awal and cidagale habar awal is larger but if you say sacad muse and cidagale then cidagale is larger and sacad muse counts for about 60 percent of habar awal and if you say habar yonis and habar jeclo then habar yonis is larger simply cismacil care is larger then musa abokor then musa carre and ixsaaq care is larger then mohamed abokor , and i am not including the other habor yonis like makahill care , kundaam care and cali sicid and others etc

[laander8]

how do you know all this empiric information man?
my friend is a jibril cabokr ( not correct spelling i know ) he says his main clan sacad muse is way bigger and clear majority of Hargeysa and surrounding areas like Xaraf, aw barkhadle , dararweyne ,

thanks

[laander8]

actually he is my first cousin...

he also meantioned ciidagalle and habar yonis make up garxajis which is 1 son.
and lots of stuff about civil war fighting and how Egal cleansed hargeysa with help of his clansmen mainly sacad muusa and some ciisa muusa

[MrPrestige]

looool awbharkadle and dararweyn first of all those areas belong 2 habar yonis and cidagalle anytin east of waqoyi galbeed is mostly like owned by those 2
and thats a lie cidagale inhabit hafl of hargeisa all south , south east and south west and isxaaq care and cali sicid are east hargeysa thats the truth cidagale and sacad muse cidagale is larger but if you habar awal and cidagale well 2 be honest then habar awal is larger

[MrPrestige]

actually he is my first cousin...

he also meantioned ciidagalle and habar yonis make up garxajis which is 1 son.
and lots of stuff about civil war fighting and how Egal cleansed hargeysa with help of his clansmen mainly sacad muusa and some ciisa muusa

lool if he talk about civil war ask him why did all somaliland get involve against the garxajis they never could defeat it lool they had 2 get all of the somaliland people involved and they still didnt win then the elders got tired of that civil that negototiated thats how it ended it was stalemate all the garxajis vs all the clans in somaliland like dhulbahnte , warsangeli people who wernt isaaq lool thats how weak other isaaqs are they had 2 get every single person who aint garxajis in somaliland 2 fight them and they still didnt defeat them im kinda ashamed of that ook but all that matters is it was the past it shall never happen agen coz its not good for isaaq people and also somaliland people

[laander8]

this is the version i got

during habar wars

habar yonis lost in berbera against a snm mujahid dhegoweyne and his clan Ciisa

habar yonis vs habar jeclo ended in equal with no winner

hargeisa
it was sacad muusa vs ciidagale
and the latter was chased out all the way to salaxley he said.
because sacad muusa got back up from reer gabiley subclans like reer samatar
and thats why the airport is called Egal airport today and its controlled by sacad musa like most business in hargeisa

he also said habar awal, Ciisa controls berbera today with small minority of habar yonis

[MrPrestige]

walalo its not like that theres hargeisa south airport is controlled by cidagalle and not habar awal and i would say they both equal in bussiness in hargeisa but berbera doesnt belong 2 habar yonis habar yonis never lost 2 cissa musa it was just when they karbashed cisse muse in saxiil all the somaliland army helped cissa musa then the abdirahman tuurs militia retreated back 2 toghedeer iven and cidagale had beef wid sacad muse but they never abandoned their land in south hargeisa thats wer the militia was active but yes there was refuuges went 2 salahley that was the kids and woman not the militia lool the militia stayed behind 2 fight cidagale are clever coz they didnt want their civilians dying so their woman and children went away wers habar awal suffered heavily coz their people stayed behind in hargeisa about in 1994 about 400 ha civilians got killed in central hargeisa by cidagale militia at the same time then they went back 2 their stronghold cidagale wer playing clever they had nothing 2 lose really and for your information if we compare habar awal seats and garxajis seats in the government garxajis has more bussiness really have you seen new coco cola factory opened in awbhakradle is owned by hy and cidagale and most bussiness like daryeel constructions and constructions is owned by hy and that i can list you a lot hotels blah but habar awal our brothers all isaaq we are brothers so it doesnt really matter who lost or what at the end of the day somaliland wouldnt be formed without the garxajis or habar awal so i guess they are both very important in somaliland anyway theres no rivalry in the isaaq family they all love each other in this present day mashallah viva somaliland down with hate its all about love in somaliland ok getin bussiness up and open new opportunities and building our nation working together remember at the end of the day iven we need our younger arap and ayub brothers so we need each other if we didnt work out our differnces we wouldnt hav made somaliland this good 2 day and berbera 2day is shared city it doesnt only belong 2 cissa musa but its shared

[laander8]

well said i am also isaaq , arap , reer cali yusuf brap

[MrPrestige]

well said i am also isaaq , arap , reer cali yusuf brap

waa fahmaaso you were arap all da time lool are you girl or boy?