Did Dhulbahante Sacrafice Too Much For Sayyidka?

[hanqadh]

what is the habar uunsi high......the only place you mentioned with a sizable sii bakhti population is gaashamo, danot is the border........kow how did you reach dollo on the the kenyan border there goes your credibility....awarre ...isaaq sits on such a small land look at ogaden from hawdka to garissa to kismayo, who has been more successful....we know history meesha ha siku ceebeyn ee ka bax before we expose your ass.

[Queen_Arawello]

what is the habar uunsi high......the only place you mentioned with a sizable sii bakhti population is gaashamo, danot is the border........kow how did you reach dollo on the the kenyan border there goes your credibility....awarre ...isaaq sits on such a small land look at ogaden from hawdka to garissa to kismayo, who has been more successful....we know history meesha ha siku ceebeyn ee ka bax before we expose your ass.

clap clap clap clap

[MrPrestige]

what is the habar uunsi high......the only place you mentioned with a sizable sii bakhti population is gaashamo, danot is the border........kow how did you reach dollo on the the kenyan border there goes your credibility....awarre ...isaaq sits on such a small land look at ogaden from hawdka to garissa to kismayo, who has been more successful....we know history meesha ha siku ceebeyn ee ka bax before we expose your ass.

habar yonis are not sii bakhtii - ogs acting hard walahi you guys are nothing for the darood clan just useless insects how comes we live in somali region we got land there and your not even allowed to enter somaliland or you will be given to the ethiopian government

[GENERAL_SNM]

its sad what did they get in return
Hoyga diinta iyo hanad shirshoora leh.

waagii darawiishta la jabiye reer ba meel bay oo carreern dhulbahantaha hawd na carre ogaden bay isku dhiibeen. qaarna gurrii iidoor bay isku dhiibeen.
waagii duuflaalki iimeey oo baxsaday ayuu roobkii ka daay burco

laakin reerku inta wuu ka badna laakin wala yar yareeye ina cabdulla xassan reerki ka hor yimaada wa gagaabin jiray waliba reerka ku madhay waxay ahayeen hayaag reerka la yidha ceelishi intu ka xoogay geeli na qaday caaqiladoodii na waa diilay.

anagu marku edeb darradana loo yimi ey baanu ku sii deyney ingreesku wattay

hoyaada iyo dhilodii ku xaraatay ba wase ee, dhulbahante maxaad mooday sitaa iidoor,
we fought to defend our country and diin

Sida Doxorka Iiddoor Annaan Duud Xammaal Noqon, was the motto to war




Sawirkan Xaqiiqdiisa Qofka raba waxuu ka helayaa Book ah British Somaliland, by Ralph E. Drake-Brockman, 1912. Waa Gabadh Caddaan ah oo Diidday Inay Dhulka ku socoto & Nin In la xammaalo oo Dusha lagu qaado la isu diyaarinayo, waxayna joogaan Xeebta. Beesha Isaaqna ay dusha ku xambaareen!!

subxanallah imagine if those were your ancestors
now MURAX do you see why we had to fight!

thats some embarassing shit

So your implying that the above picture proves that white people were carried on their backs by Isaaq during colonial times. Well here is a historical fact from a colonial Captain malcolm Mcneill in his book..SERVICE AND SPORT IN THE
SOMALI PROTECTORATE....
"His vanity will perhaps be best exemplified
by one or two instances that occurred during
the formation and drilling of the force. The
first happened at Berbera, when a quantity of
Government stores for the use of the Levy
were landed on the pier. These had all to be
taken up to the fort, a distance of about a
quarter of a mile from the pier, and the en-
listed men who were then at Berbera were
detailed as fatigue parties for this work. They
all struck, refusing to do the carrying, not on
the ground that it was beyond their strength,
but because they had enlisted as soldiers, and
were not going to do the work of coolies! It
was explained to them that both in European
and Native regiments the men carried their
own stores, and that now they had become
soldiers they would have to do likewise ; it
was also pointed out that white men thought
it no degradation. But no— they would not
see it, and replied that white men or natives
of India might have their own customs, but
that Somalis were not going to demean them-
selves by doing porters work. Sic! Even-
tually the difficulty was got over by Colonel
Swayne, entirely through his own personal
influence with the men and nothing else, and
we had no further trouble over carrying stores.
This was a ludicrous and trifling enough inci-
dent in itself, as I do not think the Sepoys
meant any harm by it, and as they were all
recruits of a few days' standing they had of
course no idea as to the gravity of their offence,
but it shows clearly what an exaggerated idea
of his own importance the Somali has".

So tell me who is better on foot the Dhulbahnte foot soldier or a horse. Your importance during the Darwishe struggle is one of excetrition on the part of the old regime and this has evolved and reached the stage that now every Dhulbahnte equates Darwish with Dhulbahnte. Yes you were involved but only as expendable footsoldiers to be chewed up by the british maxim on another doomed charge. clap We on the on the other hand are not stupid enough to be played like that, but we did contribute not as expendable waste but as advisors and the brains...So no matter what abbe siyad told you when you were his footsoldiers, his my prove.
Mahomed Abdullah himself, with his *' staff,"
viz.. Sultan Nur, late chief of the Habr Yunis
tribe, and Haji Sudi,.....Ahamed Warsama belonged to the Adan
Madoba tribe. Mullah got as an
adherent a man whose experience of the world,
and of the British Sahib and his ways, was of
the greatest use to him, Haji Sudi having been
headman to various expeditions, and having
also spent some time as interpreter on an
English man-of-war. In addition to Somali he
could speak English, Hindustani, Arabic, and
Swahili, so he was not a man whose services
could be lightly dispensed with.''
So you see my Dhulbahnte footsoldier friend. The Mad Mullah's to right hand men were a HY and HJ and his footsoldiers Dhulbahnte...

[Somaliman50]

Can anyone tell me why the Sayyid killed Shaykh Uways Al Baraawi? That Sheikh converted thousands of East Africans to Islam. Don't get me wrong people, i respect any figure who fought colonialism irrespective of their clan, credit goes where it's due without a doubt. But deen wise, i don't think the Sayyid knew what he was doing. He was even denounced by his own sect scholar {Sheikh Mohamed Salih}.

[guryasame]

Sheikh Aweys was the foremost religious leader at that time. Mad Mullah was given a burden he couldnot carry by misguided HJ junta led by Haji Sudi who was fanatically anti-british and believed this charasmatic wadad who hails from outside the somaliland clans could be used to rally the clans in resisting the british. It might have been sound strategy to some people but the fact is u can't create a wali, u can only present the image or worse force it on people. In sum, the mullah was no sheikh aweys or sheikh bashir. Interestingly sh. Aweys had a different approach to resistance, through his farasa and kashifa and because of his knowledge in the many branches he proclaimed that its prophesy fulfilled that these colonialist will attain power and resistance should be guided and proactive first and foremost safeguarding ur faith and it should not be reactionary. The dervishes I am sorry to say were misguided and reationary.

[Somaliman50]

Sheikh Aweys was the foremost religious leader at that time. Mad Mullah was given a burden he couldnot carry by misguided HJ junta led by Haji Sudi who was fanatically anti-british and believed this charasmatic wadad who hails from outside the somaliland clans could be used to rally the clans in resisting the british. It might have been sound strategy to some people but the fact is u can't create a wali, u can only present the image or worse force it on people. In sum, the mullah was no sheikh aweys or sheikh bashir. Interestingly sh. Aweys had a different approach to resistance, through his farasa and kashifa and because of his knowledge in the many branches he proclaimed that its prophesy fulfilled that these colonialist will attain power and resistance should be guided and proactive first and foremost safeguarding ur faith and it should not be reactionary. The dervishes I am sorry to say were misguided and reationary.

Wallahi what annoys me is how Siyad Barre payed so much attention to the Dervishes but completely disregarded the Southern resistance. There is an interesting story behind Shaykh Uways and others like Shaykh Hassan Barsame but it was discredited

[Murax]

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Southern resistance was Marexaan-Ogadeen and theres a wealth of information on that.

[Somaliman50]

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Southern resistance was Marexaan-Ogadeen and theres a wealth of information on that.

Maybe in the NFD British controlled areas and where those clans live but not anything north of that or in the Hawiye country for that matter. Ask Somaliweyn and Shirib about Southern resistance they'll tell you all about it. Anyway the point still stands, if the Dervishes killed that Sheikh unjustly then they cannot be called Mujahideen because taking the life of a Muslim without justification is ka'anamaa qatla naas jamiicah.

[Babygirl-]

lost hijack

Ok you guys were all Darawish & Dhulbahante wasn't..

[KUUSH]

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Southern resistance was Marexaan-Ogadeen and theres a wealth of information on that.

Maybe in the NFD British controlled areas and where those clans live but not anything north of that or in the Hawiye country for that matter. Ask Somaliweyn and Shirib about Southern resistance they'll tell you all about it. Anyway the point still stands, if the Dervishes killed that Sheikh unjustly then they cannot be called Mujahideen because taking the life of a Muslim without justification is ka'anamaa qatla naas jamiicah.

Abakar: Sayidka history is every were and he was the first african resistence that we used airplanes, siyaad all he did was to keep his legacy alive. can yo tell us any were that yo can find co southern resistant other then gare marehan and ogaden.

[Somaliman50]

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Southern resistance was Marexaan-Ogadeen and theres a wealth of information on that.

Maybe in the NFD British controlled areas and where those clans live but not anything north of that or in the Hawiye country for that matter. Ask Somaliweyn and Shirib about Southern resistance they'll tell you all about it. Anyway the point still stands, if the Dervishes killed that Sheikh unjustly then they cannot be called Mujahideen because taking the life of a Muslim without justification is ka'anamaa qatla naas jamiicah.

Abakar: Sayidka history is every were and he was the first african resistence that we used airplanes, siyaad all he did was to keep his legacy alive. can yo tell us any were that yo can find co southern resistant other then gare marehan and ogaden.

Kuush, Sayyid Abdullah Hassan is a national figure respected by all Somalis, like i said, i don't discredit his acheivements. Read on Lee V. Cassanelli's book on Somali pastoral soceity to know about southern resistance. There's other unidentified sources which talk about the anti colonialism in Benaadir; some tribes involved include the Geledi, Wacdaan, Biyamaal, Murusade etc Shirib will tell you all about it.

[KUUSH]

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Kuush, Sayyid Abdullah Hassan is a national figure respected by all Somalis, like i said, i don't discredit his acheivements. Read on Lee V. Cassanelli's book on Somali pastoral soceity to know about southern resistance. There's other unidentified sources which talk about the anti colonialism in Benaadir; some tribes involved include the Geledi, Wacdaan, Biyamaal, Murusade etc Shirib will tell you all about it.

we need the find those sources and so our generation and next generation can know about them: i believe it will cost less then $40.00 to get thier information from british libraries. i know for sure they have them.

[Somaliman50]

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inshallah bro

[guryasame]

If you want a real hero warrior-priest, Sheikh Bashir Yusuf of HJ Yessif, he never robbed, killed somali clans and never ran from the battle but died as a shaheed, considering the smallness of means at the time and accomplishments, Sh, Aweys, Haji Farah Omaar and Sheekh Bashir are the real national heroes. Most of these men accomplished great things through the greatness of their person, they did not need to torture and terrorize to be acknowledged as men of God. In some cases like Farah Omar, he could essentially function effectively as one man resistence.

Sheikh Bashir

Shiekh Bashir Yussuf (Somali: Sheekh Bashiir Yuusuf, Arabic: الشيخ يوسف بشير‎), born c.1905, was a Somali religious leader.

Shiekh Yussuf was born in Taleh, east of Lasanod in northern Somalia. In 1945, Yussuf, who sought to organize himself on a basis similar to that of Mr Omaar, emerged in the former British Somaliland. Shiekh Bashir, who is said to have been related to Sayid Mohamed Abdulle Hassan on the maternal side, was devoutly religious and of philosophical nature, conscientious practice of the mystical sect of Salihiya based in Saudi Arabia. Shiekh Bashir was collecting arms and men with a view to establish his authority over the northeast portion of the protectorate. It was also freely rumoured that it was his ultimate goal; he was strong enough to lead a religious expedition against the British rule. He organized head quarters in the east of Burao region of the former British Somaliland, quickly attracted a following because of his genius and religious influence, and suddenly during May 1945, raided the European Officials and military areas like District Commission’s residence in Burao. In many occasions, hundreds of rounds were fired and before being attacked, he managed to move with his troops during the night and retreated to his domain Bashir’s little force was outnumbered, possibly by 100s. These men held a number of hills, which rose steeply from the light bush beside the wide sandy riverbed, which is known Tog-dheer. There was a few to cover a front of 900 yards, and the most of them had been in action before; but were his determined that no British troops should force their way unchallenged and the fight they put up was a lesson in determination which the British troops signally failed to emulate. Bashir himself was in his natural element when fighting out in the bush, but here he was given a position to hold and, however much stuff the British showered on him. He had no opportunity of using his bush tactics. He just to stay put and take it, and certainly he did this and others well and died in dignity.

The British campaign against him provide abortive after several defeats as his forces kept on moving from one place to another to avoid any permanent location. No sooner had the expedition left for the area, the news traveled fast among the Somali nomads across the plain. The war had exposed the British administration to humiliation especially Mr Jember and his team. The government (the as quite cabinet) came to conclusion one time that another expedition against him would be useless; that they build a railway, make roads and effectively occupy the whole of the protectorate, or else abandon the interior completely. The letter course was decided upon, and during the first months of 1945, the advance posts wren withdrawn and the British administration confined to the coast town i.e. Berbera.

Shiekh Bashir, settled many disputes among the tribes in the vicinity, this kept them from raiding each other, and was generally though to be the side of Islamic Sharia. He accredited with the possession of supper nation of supernatural powers he gathered around him a strong following. Sough after he was eventually killed and became a martyr held in great reverence. The impression then among the British colonial officials in Burao, was the teachings of Farah Omaar of nationalism still remained and were not extinguished. The British administration had managed to recruit and brought Indian and South African troops to fight against him and had intelligence plans to capture him alive. Those who claimed they had participated the war against him felt cheated of victory and wither away out on the volt than to welcome them back to the fold with a promise rewards. The British administration did not offer back compensation to the families who lost their love once (Muqadamin). Nevertheless, this appreciation is not compensation for the family’s disappointment and abhorrence of the policy of the British government towards the death of Shiekh Bashir.

His family resolved to take quick action in removing his body to where he was at killed at Geela-Eg maintain, which is about 20 miles from Burao.

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