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*Nobleman* wrote:I'm torn i really respect imam anwar laakin the suffereing has to end some were.

-Cabsiiye-- wrote:Quote:
The Somali parliament has voted unanimously for the implementation of Sharia which is seen as good news by many in the Muslim world - and it is - as it reflects the desire of the Somali people to live by the laws of Allah.

However there are some issues that need to be highlighted. First, there is a fundamental problem with the procedure in which the decision was made.

The law of Allah should not be voted over. To give the people the choice whether to apply Sharia or not reflects a fundamental problem in the understanding of Tawhid.

Allah says: But no, by your Lord, they will not believe until they make you, [O Muhammad] judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full] submission. [al Nisa 65]

So people cannot be believers until they submit to the law of Allah and accept it without any reservations. The Islamic government exists to impose Sharia rather than submit it to a vote. Therefore a government that declares that it will accept the results of a vote for Sharia, even if the results are not to implement it, is by necessity a non-Islamic government.

First, the Sharif government is using its application of Sharia to convince the other resistance groups to lay down their arms and join the government. But from a Sharia point of view the objectives of the Jihad in Somalia have not been achieved yet and therefore the Jihad of these groups needs to carry on. Yes, the implementation of Sharia is the most important of these objectives, however, the Sharif government cannot be seen as a valid government for three main reasons. The first: Just as it applied Sharia by a vote it could dismantle Sharia by a vote. They have not implemented Sharia as a matter of principle but because it is the will of the people and therefore the Sharif government is closer to being a democratic government than it being an Islamic one.

Second: The Sharif government is still allowing the existence of a foreign invading force represented in the forces of the African Union. The Jihad in Somalia should carry on until the last AU soldier leaves the country and any forces that side with the AU -including the Sharif government- become legitimate targets.

And third: The Sharif government is basing its foreign relations with the outside world on a nationalistic basis rather that an Islamic one. The support it receives from the US, the EU and the UN is a reflection of it being a tool to advance the imperialistic interests of the West and to eradicate the strong Jihad movement in the country.

Therefore, even though it is good news for the ummah that Sharia will be implemented again in Somalia but we should not see this as an end to the struggle to establish an Islamic state and community and to free the country from foreign intervention and corruption.

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FAH1223 wrote:

*Nobleman* wrote:I'm torn i really respect imam anwar laakin the suffereing has to end some were.

he has a point that sharia is not to be voted on, it should be there from day one... he also is right the AU should leave...

however, he and MANY other imams i have noticed when they talk about somalia, they have a very simplistic view... of course im talking of non-somalis

in somalia things are not as they seem and its very complicated

encouraging more fighting is not the answer and that is where the Imam is wrong IMO

*Nobleman* wrote:

FAH1223 wrote:

*Nobleman* wrote:I'm torn i really respect imam anwar laakin the suffereing has to end some were.

he has a point that sharia is not to be voted on, it should be there from day one... he also is right the AU should leave...

however, he and MANY other imams i have noticed when they talk about somalia, they have a very simplistic view... of course im talking of non-somalis

in somalia things are not as they seem and its very complicated

encouraging more fighting is not the answer and that is where the Imam is wrong IMO

well said mate

Firefly wrote:

Murax wrote:

Firefly wrote:You know the end of times are near when even the Imaams are not save from disrespect..

Murax:-

Walaal think about the millions of people in Afgoi drinking camel urine to quench their thirst while a so called "imam" is supporting the continuation of their suffuring?

Who's fault is that? Is that his fault? To say he is supporting the continuation of their suffering is at best dishonest, and at the least desperate. Ka fakir waxaad leedahay. Somalis have nobody but themselves to blame.

Amirsade wrote:Galia, DRyalaxow, murax, fah1223, diyeesha tolka, kolombo, american sufi...... What a bunch of Rats.

Stay with the politics. and leave religion talks to those who knows best.......

Salahuddiin wrote:Actually when considering maslaxa and mafsada in sharica then religion comes before everything else. I understand that people are tired of war after a long time and are ready to take sheydaan as their leader if that brings them peace but this isn't an excuse in front of Allah. Ultimate victory will always be after serious test and best example is the life of Prophet (scws) and saxaaba.

Qays ibn Abi Hazim related that Khabbab ibn al-Aratt said, "We complained to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace while he was using his cloak as a cushion in the shade of the Kabaa. We said to him, 'Will you not ask for help for us? Will you not pray to Allah for us?

He said, 'There was a man among those before you for whom a ditch was dug in the earth and he was placed in it. Then a saw was brought and places on his head and he would be cut in two. He would be raked with iron combs which would remove his flesh from his bones or sinews, and that would not deter him from his deen. By Allah, this business will be complete so that a traveller can go from San'a to Hadramawt fearing only Allah, or the wolf for his sheep, but you are trying to hasten things (Al-Bukhari)