How can people deny the holocaust happened?

[Grant]

You can't deny it, because it is too well documented and photoshop just doesn't cover the bases.The chief denier at this point in time is Ahmadinejad of Iran. In his case, the denial is based on politics, internal consumption, ignorance, arrogance and stupidity.

Do you even understand the concept of zyclon B?

http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/

[ModerateMuslim]

what i'm asking is, do you hate the kuffar/mushrikeen and munafiqeen for allah's sake?

To answer your question, I'm Muslim. As a Muslim, you should hate their actions for Allah SWT's sake.

sorry, but that's not the creed of ahl us-sunnah wal jamah - rather, it's the sad creed of today's typical muslim modernist who is more inclined to take his/her belief from kuffar batil concepts like egalitarianism rather than islam.

muslims should hate both the kuffar and their kufr - this from the book and the sunnah, and that which isn't from the book and the sunnah is utterly rejected by the believers. those whose actions we hate but not them per se aren't the kuffar but deviant muslims or sinful muslims. so be careful not to give rights only due to the believers to kuffar.

allah swt has given us an excellent example in ibraheem (as), that we must follow, when he declared his hatred for the people of shirk, including his own parents, for allah's sake. as allah the most high states in his book:

"There is a good example for you in Ibrahim and those with him, when they told their people: Surely we disassociate ourselves from you and all that you worship beside Allah. We have done with you. And there has arisen between us and you enmity and hate forever until you believe in Allah only." [60:4]

surely you won't deny any of allah's guidance! so it's incumbent upon you as a muslim to hate both the kuffar and their kufr, for your lord's sake, until they believe in allah alone.

next to tawheed, al wala wal bara is the foundation which your emaan rests upon and the first requirement to fulfilling your tawheed. as shaykh ul-islam ibn taymiyyah - rahimahullah - said:

"The declaration of faith, ‘There is no god but Allāh’, requires you to love only for the sake of Allāh, to hate only for the sake of Allāh, to ally yourself only for the sake of Allāh, to declare enmity only for the sake of Allāh; it requires you to love what Allāh loves and to hate what Allāh hates. It also requires you to ally yourself to the Muslims wherever you find them and to oppose the disbelievers even if they are your closest kin."(Al-Ihtijaj bi’l-Qadar, p.62)


and plus, hating someone's actions without hating them is a ridiculous and silly notion, to say the least, that goes against basic human nature. i have to think that even you - mr. yNf - hates, say, someone like ariel sharon (may burn in the depths of hell), or someone worse (if that's even possible). no? if not, then you must be a radical and extreme buddhist. lol.

i hate someone like ariel sharon, as do most sane people. but the #1 reason why i hate him is not because of the heinous crimes he has committed against the palestinian people - though i hate him plenty for that - but because of his kufr. nothing is more hated to allah swt than shirk and those who fail to reject it. and whatever/whoever allah swt hates or loves, a believe must hate or love. as simple as that.

so learn about your deen from the book, the sunnah, with understanding of the salaf (raa) and the ulama of ahl us-sunnah, insh'allah, instead of following the whims and desires of your heart.

[mahdi01]

The whole point of bringing holocaust story many times in this present world is just to keep and justify Palestinian misery, what the death of European Jews have to do with Arabs and Palestinians, it doesn’t impress me at all, So take it and sheaf up in the European people’s behind.

[FAH1223]

somali-star, we are all Bani Adam

we should hate Kufr, Kufr actions, those who oppress the Muslims for Allah sake... but to say we should hate people in a generalized sense of the word is not Islamic...

Acudubillahi, we're supposed to hate the other 4.5 billion people on this Earth that Allah SWT himself created?

[ModerateMuslim]

we should hate...those who oppress the Muslims for Allah sake...

interesting.... so why hate them?

[FAH1223]

we should hate...those who oppress the Muslims for Allah sake...

interesting.... so why hate them?

you just cited pedos and shid

I'd hate them for the atrocities they have committed

But I have no reason to hate people who are just living their lives, if they need to be guided...Dawah works in many ways my brother

[ModerateMuslim]

shrik is worst than anything you can think about....think about that.

what does allah hate the most....shirk.

what should the believers hate the most.....shirk.

so shirk is worst than oppression.

an oppressor can still be a muslim but a mushrik can never be a muslim.

[Grant]

shrik is worst than anything you can think about....think about that.

what does allah hate the most....shirk.

what should the believers hate the most.....shirk.

so shirk is worst than oppression.

an oppressor can still be a muslim but a mushrik can never be a muslim.

That is a Takfiiri perspective. So you listen to the wind blowing from the Nejd?

All oppressors

[Alluring]

Funny how most of the people denying these actions on this forum are Hawiye. Because they have never understood the trails of pain, since they believe in killing and harming the innocent.

Sickness in their brains, I tell you!

[Ina Baxar]

There has been a jewish presence in that part of the wolrd long before there was a uniform block of people called "Arabs" ..just saying !

The problem here in my opinion is that both parties are RIGHT , nobody's claiming anything WRONG , which makes it so difficult!

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

what i'm asking is, do you hate the kuffar/mushrikeen and munafiqeen for allah's sake?

To answer your question, I'm Muslim. As a Muslim, you should hate their actions for Allah SWT's sake.

sorry, but that's not the creed of ahl us-sunnah wal jamah - rather, it's the sad creed of today's typical muslim modernist who is more inclined to take his/her belief from kuffar batil concepts like egalitarianism rather than islam.

muslims should hate both the kuffar and their kufr - this from the book and the sunnah, and that which isn't from the book and the sunnah is utterly rejected by the believers. those whose actions we hate but not them per se aren't the kuffar but deviant muslims or sinful muslims. so be careful not to give rights only due to the believers to kuffar.

allah swt has given us an excellent example in ibraheem (as), that we must follow, when he declared his hatred for the people of shirk, including his own parents, for allah's sake. as allah the most high states in his book:

"There is a good example for you in Ibrahim and those with him, when they told their people: Surely we disassociate ourselves from you and all that you worship beside Allah. We have done with you. And there has arisen between us and you enmity and hate forever until you believe in Allah only." [60:4]

surely you won't deny any of allah's guidance! so it's incumbent upon you as a muslim to hate both the kuffar and their kufr, for your lord's sake, until they believe in allah alone.

next to tawheed, al wala wal bara is the foundation which your emaan rests upon and the first requirement to fulfilling your tawheed. as shaykh ul-islam ibn taymiyyah - rahimahullah - said:

"The declaration of faith, ‘There is no god but Allāh’, requires you to love only for the sake of Allāh, to hate only for the sake of Allāh, to ally yourself only for the sake of Allāh, to declare enmity only for the sake of Allāh; it requires you to love what Allāh loves and to hate what Allāh hates. It also requires you to ally yourself to the Muslims wherever you find them and to oppose the disbelievers even if they are your closest kin."(Al-Ihtijaj bi’l-Qadar, p.62)


and plus, hating someone's actions without hating them is a ridiculous and silly notion, to say the least, that goes against basic human nature. i have to think that even you - mr. yNf - hates, say, someone like ariel sharon (may burn in the depths of hell), or someone worse (if that's even possible). no? if not, then you must be a radical and extreme buddhist. lol.

i hate someone like ariel sharon, as do most sane people. but the #1 reason why i hate him is not because of the heinous crimes he has committed against the palestinian people - though i hate him plenty for that - but because of his kufr. nothing is more hated to allah swt than shirk and those who fail to reject it. and whatever/whoever allah swt hates or loves, a believe must hate or love. as simple as that.

so learn about your deen from the book, the sunnah, with understanding of the salaf (raa) and the ulama of ahl us-sunnah, insh'allah, instead of following the whims and desires of your heart.

"Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity." (Surah Al-Mumtahinah, Ayat 8)

[Caashaqa]

Are you guys aware that this Caashaqa is an atheist?

AND WHAT IS YOUR EVIDENCE BITCH

[Twisted_Logic]

Funny how most of the people denying these actions on this forum are Hawiye. Because they have never understood the trails of pain, since they believe in killing and harming the innocent.

Sickness in their brains, I tell you!

[Caashaqa]

Funny how most of the people denying these actions on this forum are Hawiye. Because they have never understood the trails of pain, since they believe in killing and harming the innocent.

Sickness in their brains, I tell you!

LMFAO