Liberating Ogadenia .

[MrPrestige]

Surrender horta what is this SSC you talk about - ayamahan - just say like it is eastern sanaag , Sool without Caynabo & some parts of Xudun - Cayn - i am from sanaag does that mean i fall under SSC a mj shouldnt even talk about SSC - some land they dont inhabit - the last was the Ali Jibrahil Iyo Gaheyle - Suqawroon - were both kicked out of sanaag for good

[MrPrestige]

Why is General acting like some of the Idoor lands are not under Xabashis? plus Riyale Rules Somaliland & Somaliland is a Puppet Xabash state.

Riyaale dadkiisa doortay,
Besides dhulka isaaqa eeh Ethiopia we are represented by dawlada kilinka shanaad eeh ka jirta Jigjiga. madaxweynaha madaxweyne kuxigeenka xilidbibanaada barlamaanka ku jiira Ismamuul gobolkeeda somalida Eeh Ethiopia

If we hand over a few ogadens here and there its good for the ganacsii
best export products we have

war yuna soonka ka jabiin

[The_Emperior5]

but you cant compare ogadenia to somaliland. you can however compare somaliland to puntland. lets look at this way, somaliland want recognition because of the qabiil that reside in that area want to run their own affairs. they dont want to share political, economical aspect with the rest of the somalis. i have nothing against somaliand becoming their own country and i dont support ogadenia in seeking recognition if/when they are liberated from Ethiopia, but you have to understand something, somaliland's recognition has no reason and/or excuse in seeking idependence and no value for somali people. esp, if those somalis are from SSC.

You can compare kilinka shanaad and somaliland both had a clan jabhad to liberate there land From what they call shiisheeye Whether it was the sna somali national army or , or the Ethiopian army , Do you know that if kilinka shanaad liberate their land from Ethiopia they want an independent ogadenia i think you are aware of that Lots of onlf members share the same views and want an independent ogadenia. Now how is that different from somaliland
eastern sool and eastern sanaag You can compare that 2 Xarshin harta sheika daror
gashaamo , northern dhagaxbuur zone and northern jigjiga zone Are isaaq degaans but if Ogadenia gets its independence they will be part of ogadenia same way as eastern sool and eastern sanaag is part of somaliland cidiii dagta ba

[Ducaysane_87]

emperior has a fair point -

you also forget Danoot woreda of Wardheer district is also inhabited by hy -isaaq iyo some ogs to the south

[Ducaysane_87]

Emperior - waxas oo kale wa hyprocisy from the darood side - if eastern sool & eastern sanaag wont be part of sland then neither will Gaashaamo , Daror , Harshin , Harti Sheikh , Danoot , Aware , & many other places be part of a Future qabil - enclave called ogadenia - & if they refuse this is what will happen - this time we will take Qabri Dahar , Qoraxay , Gode by force like we did 150-100 years ago --


Silsiladda Guba



Habar Yoonis & Cidagale Dhuulkii ee Ka Maroorsaden Daroodka


Silsiladda Guba waxay salka ku haysaa duullaamo ay Beelo Habar Yoonis ahi ku hanteen Garduur iyo Doollo oo ah ceelal taxan oo ku yaala dhulka maanta loo yaqaan Zone 5 ee bariga Ethiopiada Soomalidu degto. Duulaamada habar Yoonis ku daaduunsheen Ogadenka waxa qaybtooda hore dhacday 1870 kii oo beesha Habar Yoonis taabtay Ceelal badan oo Harooyinka ku yaal. Silsiladda iyadana waxa soo gelaysa dhulka Cali Dhuux reerahooda laga hantay ee la yidhaahdo Cayn iyo Nugaal Godan.
Duulalka si xun wax u sheegga ah ee suugaanta ka sinaystaa waxay beryahan danbe caado ka dhigteen Inay majara habaabiyaan murtida mugga leh ee Soomaaliyeed. Suugaanta "Guba' la baxday taas kama duwana ayadoo la isku dayo
1. In taariikh aan meesha ku jirin la abuuro mid jirteyna daaha la saaro. Si kastoo la isugu dayey in loo taxriifiyo suugaanta soomaalida 20 sano ee hororada ma xishoodayaasha ah dalka gelelefayeen, misana way ku guulaysan waayo beentoodu iyaga ma dhaafto Soomaalida kalena dheg uma leh.
2. In magacyo aan qaarkood jirin gabayada "Guba" qaarkeed loo nisbeeyo. Waxa qosol leh in cajlad iyo buug lagu qoro gabayo aan jirin oo ragga qaarkooda loo nisbaynayaa aysan jirin.
3. In rag ku jirey laga saaro taasoo uu ka mid yahay abwaankii da'da yaraa ee Jamac Xirsi Gulleed "Ina Dubbe" oo ahaa ninkii ugu horreyey ee radiyey diradiraha ninka reer Koombe ka soo yeedhay.
4. In tirada ka qayb galayaasha silsiladdan la yareeyo ama la badiyo hadba sidii tebiyuhu dantiisa iyo tan reerkiisa u arko.




Waxyaabahaas iyo kuwo kaloo badani waxay ku tusayaan sida naf-la-caaridnimada ah ee la isugu dayo in beentii xilligii Afweyne la fidin jirtey ee la xijaabatay dib loo soo nooleeyo oo weliba baalal loo yeelo si loo khaldo bahda Suugaanta jecel.
Suugaanta "Guba" la baxday waxay bilaabatay 1923kii xilligaas oo dagaallo sokeeye oo badani socdeen ninkii laga muruq badnaana la muquunshay oo maatadiisii iyo dhulkiisii rag kale meersadeen. Ceelka Dannood oo ka mid ahaa deegaan ballaadhan oo Beesha HY ka maroorsatay Ogaadeenka ayaa Cali Dhuux hal uu gorofka u sitey loo diidey inay ka cabto markaasaa ninka meertadan bilaabay isagoon waxyaabo badan xeerin marshey gabay calaacal iyo ciilkaambi ku jiro oo uu ugu talo galay inuu ku guubaabiyo hunbbannida deegaankoodii rag kale degey.



Cali Dhuux Aadan Gorayo waxa, sida taariikhda suugaantu
qirayso, uu ka lahaa ujeeddooyin u gaar ah curinta maansadan. Waxa xusid mudan in aan Soomaalidii hore gabayga iska marin jirin ee la dhawri jireen munaasabad iyo mansab ku habboon si ay dhaxalgal u noqoto. Soomalida gabayda waxa kalooo dhaqan u ahaan jirtey in xitaa haddii loo gabyo aysan ka jawaab celin jiren illaa ay u muuqato inuu ku gar iyo garawshiinyo helayo, haasaawahana ku asiibayo. Waxa taas nooga filan Abwaankii Dhulqas Aadan (Gun-iyo-baar-eeg) oo sida uu sheegay "Gaarriye" sugayey jawaabta gabay uu marshey Cali Dhuux oo reerkooda wax ka sheegayey.
Maalintii ay "Dhulu-dheer" dhacday ee Biciidyana (Majerten) maroorsaday wixii maal uu lahaa dhulbahantah hawd ayay u muuqatay inuu Cali Dhuux uga jawaabo gabaygiisii. Hadal Haan ma buuxshee, Cali Dhuux maansada "GUBA" wuxu marshey iyadoo aan kalkeedii gelin dhawr sababood dartood.





.Isagoo Ugaadeenka uu lee yahay waan guubaabinayaa isagu dhacay sida ku cad jawaabaha ay bixiyeen raggii u jawaabay oo Daarood iyo Isaaqba lahaa. Tusaale aan u soo qaadanno dhawrkan tuduc:
Duunyada Fardood maalintaad deleb ku qaadaysey
Sidii Duul Amxaara ah markaad nagu dabrayneysey
Intaad haatan ii laba dublayn muu damqado jiidhku
Daabaca ninkii kugu dhuftee daabka kuu celiya
Iyo kii Duleedshaay ku yidhi wax isma doorshaane
Qamaan Bulxan

Nin dulmiyey Ogaadeen hadii cidi ka doonayso
Dunjigeeda Soomaalidaad ugu darnaydeene
Idinba waataa dubbaa Reer Subeer daan ku jabiseene
Idinkaa Dannood iyo ka hiray degeladoodiye
Jaamac Xirsi "Ina Dubbe"

Doqon iyo ogaadeen haddaad dalaw ku sheegaysey
Waxa daarahoodii kharibey duulka reer Gorode
Dunjiga reer Subeer oo dhanbaa duudsi loo naqaye
Adaa dalawadoodii dhacoo ceeb ku daababacaye
Weyl baan dabraabaad na tidhi waana didayaane
Nimankaad dadkii wada tustee daawo uga yeeshay
Waa maxay barordiiqdan aad ugu danookhyeysey
Ismail "Baashe"

Geelii ogaadeen ninkii goofiyaad tahay'e
Giddiga reer Subeer yahay ninkii gaadhay baad tahaye
Ninkii geed ku xidhay baad ahayd galabti weyshiiye
Gudaha Adari waa laga tirshaa gabayadaadiiye
Maxamed Fiin

Ogadeen dhasheega iyo sidii ceel dhanaan noqoye
Nin waliba dhabada waa yaqaan loogu sii dhacoe
Waa kaa dhulmahantii baqtiyey dhamaya caanaaye
Dadku dhoobbi iyo ciidan waa saad u dheregteene
Dhibbaa lagu qabaa xoolahaw dhacan ahaydene
Max'd Nuur Fadal

Gabayada kor ku xusan oo dhammi waxay tibaaxayaan sida Clai Dhuux raaskiisu godobta uga qabeen Ogaadeen ee aysan ugu
bannaanayn inay tirtirsi iyo tiiqtiiqsi gabay loo yidhi ay tirshaan. Qodobkan oo keliya ayaa ridaya gabayga cali Dhuux kuuna
Tilmaamaya in Cali Dhuux gabayga u tirshey si uu Magac uga helo maadaama suugaantiisu aysan deegaankiisa dhaafsiisnayn.

2. Arrinta labaad ee kuu caddaynaysa ujeedada dhabta ah ee Cali Dhuux ee magac raadiska ahi waxay tahay in dalkiisii la haystey, duunyadiisiina khayrkii ay meersadeen. Qodobkan labaad waxa isna ka markhaati ah taariikhda iyadoo raggii markaa gabaygiisa aanu hubsan ka jawaabayey ay sidoo kale sheegeen.


Hunbannida Ogaadeen intaad soo hirgelinaysid
Wax hortaada lagu maalayaa kii Hagoogane'e
Salaan Carrabey

Hannas iyo harraad kulul adoo habaqle soo guurey
Caynaba hadhuub kama dartaan hoga Kaliileede
Ka hulleele Hagar Aadankii hooballayn jiraye
Aduunbaa hayooyda u guntane heeryo lagu saarye
Salaan Carrabey

Idinkuba darkii Caynabaad deris ku taalliine
Dagaallama nin doorkii la laa duubcaddii Hagare
Ama na daaya waa wada qabnaa daawashiyo ceebe
Qamaan Bulxan

Dhaantada Ugadeeen intuu kula dhex meeraayo
Siduu dhaamo rer Webi intuu dhiilla gelinaayo
Alla dhoohanaa kiisa muu nagala dheeraado.
Max'd Nuur Fadal
3. Ugu danbayntii arrinta kale ee muujinaysa magac-doonnimada Cali Dhuux waxay tahay isagoo;
a. Dhawr afarrey iska daba tiriyey markii gabayadii istaageen taasoo oo uu uga jeeday in sheekadu sii socoto
b. Markii afarreyduu tirinayey socon weydey buu bilaabay inuu gabayga soo geliyo Salaan Carrabey oo aan isagu soo gelin silsiladda isagoon dan ka lahayn nimanka Daarood ee doodaya. Cali Dhuux si uu u sii fidiyo sheekada ayuu gabay uu Salaan iyo HJ, oo maalkiisi iyo dalkiisaiba haysta, u tiriyey afarreydan
Ogaaden Hadhuuudhkyo sidii hilibka loo boobye
Nin waliba hadhuubuu toshiyo haamo gooniyahe
Nimankaan harraadkiyo aqoon hawdka maristiisa
Kulay habar Jecliyo Ciise tahay waa ka helayaane
Haweenkuna hadday doonayaan inay hidiidaane









JAAMAC XIRSI GUULEED "INA DUBBE"
Habar Yoonis, Reer Caynaanshe.
Jaamac wuxu ahaa ninkii ugu horreeyey ee ka soo jawaabay gabaygii Cali Dhuux A. Gorayo uu bilaabay. Jaamac oo markaas 26 jir ahaa wuxu yidhi "Waxan sitey qori Maadhiin Yare ah oo hilka Shakaddu u dhammayd. Labada gelin ka hore ayaan Daarta Bunduqa kala soo jeedsan jirey, gelinka dambana waxan raaci jirey Fooska wareega heelka duleedka ceelka Wardheer". Jaamac iyo Cali Dhuux waxa u dhexeeyey da' badan. Wuxu yidhi Jaamac maalin saddexaaddii markaan
u jawaabay Cali Dhuux ayuu ii yimi oo igu yidhi, isagoo da' iigu hanjabaya:
Dahaba maad eegine Ina Dubboow rag waa iga danbeeyaaye.



Ismaaciil Cigaal Bullaale
Habar Yoonis, Sugulle Caynaanshe
Ismaaciil Cigaal oo "Ismaaciil Baashe" ku magac dheeraa wuxu ku abtirsadaa Suldaan Diiriye Sugulle iyo Boqor Xirsi Ammaan Suldaan. Ismaaciil oo ka mid ahaa waxgaradka iyo waayeelka Habar Yoonis wuxu kaloo ka mid ah dadka soo dhaweeyey Dhulmahantadii ku caydhoowdey daaduunkii ina Cabdalle Xasan Canbaro Dhool Cigaal Bulaale u dhisay Cali Dhuux. Gobi waa tii abaalgudda'e Wuxu Ismaaciil aad uga xanaaqay abaaldhaca uu geystey ina Gorayo oo reerihii wanaagga u falay uu col ku soo hoggaamiyey.
Ismaaciil wuxu kaga qaybgelyaa tixda la yidhaahdo DACWI.



Salaan Carrabey
Habar Jeclo, Aadan Madoobe
Salaan Carrabey bilawgii silsiladdan dan kama aanu lahayn nimanka daarood ee midba kan kale ku riixayo isaaq baa i Xilo iyo Xooloba tiray. Salaan oo ahaa nin Abwaannimadiisa ay u dheerayd ilbaxnimo waxa la sheegaa in xilliga ay maansadani curatay uu Tacabbir ugu maqnaa dalka dibeddiisa. Cali Dhuux markii ay silsiladii uu bilaabay ee Magac-ku-doonka ahayd istaagtay ayuu damcay inuu Salaan iyo Abwaannadii Habar Jeclo meesha soo geliyo si ay gabayadu u sii socdaan. Cali Dhuux waxa shaydaan ka yeedhsiiyey erayo daandaansi ah oo isagoo diiftii HJ ku dhigtay doogteedii weli qaba ayuu miciinsaday afxumo mase mahadine waxa Salaan is daba dhigay labadiisii tixood ee caanka ahaa ee uu kaga jawaabayey labadii afarrey ee Cali Dhuux.





you can check the map here dhuulkii laga Xoogaay Dooro-radii


http://www.hoygasuugaanta.com/Silsiladii-Guba.htm

[surrender]

You can compare kilinka shanaad and somaliland both had a clan jabhad to liberate there land From what they call shiisheeye Whether it was the sna somali national army or , or the Ethiopian army , Do you know that if kilinka shanaad liberate their land from Ethiopia they want an independent ogadenia i think you are aware of that Lots of onlf members share the same views and want an independent ogadenia. Now how is that different from somaliland
eastern sool and eastern sanaag You can compare that 2 Xarshin harta sheika daror
gashaamo , northern dhagaxbuur zone and northern jigjiga zone Are isaaq degaans but if Ogadenia gets its independence they will be part of ogadenia same way as eastern sool and eastern sanaag is part of somaliland cidiii dagta ba

emperior you missing the whole point, which is why does somaliland wants recognition in first place? sland has no reason in seeking independene, where as ogadenia does, in fact ogadenia has 10x better chance becoming independent-though i never undersood why they want to be independent, and if they do want to be independent i do/would reconsider my support for them afterall they cant expect us to support them and not join us to make bigger.stronger somali force in east africa. nevertheless the reason ogadenia has better chance is because ogadenia is opperessed by foreign/neighbouring country, which had bigger powers in doing so. they have been opperessed by Ethiopia or decades, poverty is really high there and there is no chance of progressing if this continues. every single international organisation recognises the problem in ogadenia. as for somaliland how could they claim independence they are not opperessed by anyone, was never opperessed by anyone. somalia bay wax laqabaan waligoodna laqabeen. just because way dudeen like little dhoocilin it dont mean international government is going to give them what they want. if that was the case i think 2/3 of the world would be seeking recognition by now lol. is not that easy. i wont be suprised if the international governments refuses the reognition of sland 100%

[Ducaysane_87]

"they was never opperessed by anyone" - this is what i was talking about - Jeberti Denial Disease - J.D.D

[The_Emperior5]

emperior you missing the whole point, which is why does somaliland wants recognition in first place? sland has no reason in seeking independene, where as ogadenia does, in fact ogadenia has 10x better chance becoming independent-though i never undersood why they want to be independent, and if they do want to be independent i do/would reconsider my support for them afterall they cant expect us to support them and not join us to make bigger.stronger somali force in east africa. nevertheless the reason ogadenia has better chance is because ogadenia is opperessed by foreign/neighbouring country, which had bigger powers in doing so. they have been opperessed by Ethiopia or decades, poverty is really high there and there is no chance of progressing if this continues. every single international organisation recognises the problem in ogadenia. as for somaliland how could they claim independence they are not opperessed by anyone, was never opperessed by anyone. somalia bay wax laqabaan waligoodna laqabeen. just because way dudeen like little dhoocilin it dont mean international government is going to give them what they want. if that was the case i think 2/3 of the world would be seeking recognition by now lol. is not that easy. i wont be suprised if the international governments refuses the reognition of sland 100%

Inaadeero let met tell you something, the reason why ogaden wants independence is because they want to form their own country , Ethiopia is overwhelming a majority muslim country if they wanted to share the power with the so called Muslim Ethiopian brothers and sisters they could but they don’t. Why do you think Eritrea took back its independence The shared the same language the same culture the same habesha. But they where just a little bit to Different and wanted Their claim back on their Country. Somaliland took back its independence after a 10 year war While its citizens where killed every where over what you call Somalia. The so called Somali government where hunting for Isaaq Somaliland civilians in The capital city of Somalia. And last not least the Somali air force for the first time was used on Somaliland. Somalidanu wax la qabnay wa kuwee, ma kuwanu calanka uu keenay eeh yidhi wa qaldaamin walaan qaldaan bay noo bixiyeen markanu calanka uu keenay 1960.

Surrender Somaliland has historical colonial borders we do not share a history with Somalia before 1884 we where part of the ottoman empire before that we where part of the walashma dynasty
So we do not share history we do not share A culture. The cultural difference between Somaliland and they way we govern our self’s and the koonfurians are 2 different story’s
The only thing we share is a language and that can be debated about how many country speak the same languages and are different country’s around the globe if language united people 23 arab states would be one country , but non of these arabs share the same history same as Somalia and Somaliland.

And if that was the case Tigray region would be part of Eritrea and not part of Ethiopia.
The only reason surrender Somaliland is not recognized today is because Somalia is with out a government mark my words When Somalia has a government , Bye bye Somaliland meel ku qorro.
Eritrea was lucky Ethiopia had a government in 1991 , but you animals from koonfuria waad is canteen ila mantana wa bila dawlad.

[surrender]

"they was never opperessed by anyone" - this is what i was talking about - Jeberti Denial Disease - J.D.D

before i go any further please tell me what opperession sland has suffered?

[Ducaysane_87]

"they was never opperessed by anyone" - this is what i was talking about - Jeberti Denial Disease - J.D.D

before i go any further please tell me what opperession sland has suffered?

isnt raping young girls as young as 14 - executing elders , - carpet bombing a whole cities - Genocide - the opperession of isaaqs lasted for 10 years - coming to end in 1991 - - the same fate ogadens are suffering now - isnt it called a oppression -- ? or you have a double standard for isaaqs



what kind of question is - what opperession did sland suffered? - why do you think SNM was formed?


what are you going to ask next if the Tutsi *superior race* never suffered?

[surrender]

ducysane exaggeration dee anigu marabo, and anyways wixii sland kudhacay, soomaliiyoo dhan way laqabtay. waxaad kiina uga dhigtaan inay WW3 inay inigu dhacday, i do not know.

[The_Emperior5]

ducysane exaggeration dee anigu marabo, and anyways wixii sland kudhacay, soomaliiyoo dhan way laqabtay. waxaad kiina uga dhigtaan inay WW3 inay inigu dhacday, i do not know.

Waxa ogadenka Ethiopianku ku sameyaan ba Ethiopia oo dhan way la qabta ka waran hadanu siida ka dhigno
Waxay Ethiopianku ku sameyeen Eritreanku wa wax ay wadda qabbeen ka warran

[FAH1223]

better to focus on nation building instead of freeing occupied territory

that way its easier to have leverage down the line when a system is in place, economic growth and a decent military force is in there or a supply of equipment and food can go across the border to aid people

[Ducaysane_87]

Surrender - do you realise Genocide is 1 of the Highest Humanity crimes? over 100,000 innocent man , woman , children were killed in the hands of the so called somalia government - isaaqa sii xuun ba loo galay - the government even tried to populate sland with ogs & ethnic cleanse the native isaaqs - so now you realise why we dont really feel much sorry for the ogs - they have killed many innocent isaaq families fleeing sland in ogadenia in the 1980s - they were even armed by the Afweyn regime - and now people expect us to welcome them in somaliland - or question why we deport them back to ethiopia without Mercy?



back to the point - isaaq suffered the same fate as ogadens are suffering now - no but's - thats the fact

[hanqadh]

SNM was purely ISAAQ.....ONLF is more diverse.....the irony....This is a name that has been around the region's people since colonialism, people are use to it, ONLF use's it to appeal to the international community, WSLF would been seen as an organisation which is serving The SOmali republics irredenist claims which in 77 we saw as a failure, up until the war in 77, WSLF was called OLF- ogaden liberation front.