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Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

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seemeyer wrote:THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN WHAT IS HAPPENINNG IN THE OGADEN
TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN CHECHNYA,PALESTINE, SOUTH PHILPINES, IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN.
WHY PEOPLE ARE ASKING THE OGADEN PEOPLE IF IT'S NATIONALISNM OR NOT. NOBODY ASKS ANY OF THE OTHER NATIONS I'VE MENTIONED IT JUST A GIVEN, WELL IT'S THE SAME IN OGADENIA
Yep, I agree , there is a clear religious rationale in supporting ONLF’s fight: a brutal, merciless enemy is occupying a Muslim land and that land must be liberated..they have a right to resist occupation to the last man, and rightfully so, its more honorable to die on your feet than to live crawling on your knees.
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The people who are in this fight ONLF have made it clear their war with ethiopia is not a jihad. They have done this inorder to gain western support, and not scare them of with Jihad talk. If they are to scared to say they are fighting a Jihad, then its not a jihad. This cleric was most likely missed informed by an ONLF supporter, and told a false story.
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GENERAL_SNM wrote:The people who are in this fight ONLF have made it clear their war with ethiopia is not a jihad. They have done this inorder to gain western support, and not scare them of with Jihad talk. If they are to scared to say they are fighting a Jihad, then its not a jihad. This cleric was most likely missed informed by an ONLF supporter, and told a false story.
^^^^

nowadays if 2 zoomali tribes fight they will both claim fighting for jihad. zoomalis replaced the word qawiil/tribe with jihad.
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Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

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i guess the Oromo also can call their struggle Jihad :lol:
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Reading certain replys I'm kinda getting the vibe if the 'O' was replaced then the struggle is Jihad :?: Somalis are haters and negatively natured.The name doesn't make any difference. This is the card ethiopians used telling other somalis living in the region that this is not their war...
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Ducaysane209 wrote:i guess the Oromo also can call their struggle Jihad :lol:
yeah why not the muslim one :mrgreen:
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seemeyer wrote:CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT CONSIREING THEY ARE FIGHTING KUFFAR




thats some raw shit as long that they killing habashis onlf will have my full support
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Allahu yaclum, but in my honest opinon I don't think this is a jihad because they are fighting to liberate their land and are fighting in the name of ogaden, they aren't fighting in the cause of islam.
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Cumar-Labasuul wrote:Allahu yaclum, but in my honest opinon I don't think this is a jihad because they are fighting to liberate their land and are fighting in the name of ogaden, they aren't fighting in the cause of islam.
Cumar i respect ur opinions nevertheless i strongly disagree with you..it's not 'their land' it's a Muslim land which is under occupation and the people are oppressed,the name doesn't make any difference..why must we dwell on a trivial useless issues as a name over an entire struggle that has cost millions of lives and property that has spanned over 50 years? and why do some people fear this clan having their name on a region? I understand the need to curb qabiilist sensitivities but changing a region names is way over the top. We need to have a bit of respect for history.
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Queen_Arawello wrote:
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:Allahu yaclum, but in my honest opinon I don't think this is a jihad because they are fighting to liberate their land and are fighting in the name of ogaden, they aren't fighting in the cause of islam.
Cumar i respect ur opinions nevertheless i strongly disagree with you..it's not 'their land' it's a Muslim land which is under occupation and the people are oppressed,the name doesn't make any difference..why must we dwell on a trivial useless issues as a name over an entire struggle that has cost millions of lives and property that has spanned over 50 years? and why do some people fear this clan having their name on a region? I understand the need to curb qabiilist sensitivities but changing a region names is way over the top. We need to have a bit of respect for history.
Ok then let say we forget about the name for a minute and foci=us on who the onlf are fighting against, is it somalis fighting for their land against ethiopians? or muslims fighting for their land against christians?
Lets be honest ethiopia has a large muslim population and it wouldn't make a difference to onlf if the government was muslim or christian the fact is that they are fighting against a regime, just like eritrea.
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Queen...while I do support the ONLF wholeheartedly hadane one must not consider it not a jihad because of their inclusion. Why not get other clans to join the war, why alienate them, why say this is the land of Ogaden, when there is so many clans that live there. I have never know this information, but what is their end goal? An Islamic run state? Unification with the rest of Somalia?

The land was always refereed to as Galbeed as far as I know it walaal. Also, my brother perfect-order just came back. He said the ONLF and the galbeed government fight (both somalis), the ONLF and the Akhwaan fight (both somalis), the akhwaan and the galbeed government fight (both somali), and the akhwaan and the ONLf both fight xabasha. Marka there is great confusion walal as to call this a jihad from my perspective. But I do support them nonetheless.
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Cumar unlike i respect ur opinions nevertheless i strongly disagree with you..it's not 'their land' it's a Muslim land which is under occupation and the people are oppressed,the name doesn't make any difference..why must we dwell on a trivial useless issues as a name over an entire struggle that has cost millions of lives and property that has spanned over 50 years? and why do some people fear this clan having their name on a region? I understand the need to curb qabiilist sensitivities but changing a region names is way over the top. We need to have a bit of respect for history.


Well you have to understand that the name ogaden was given by British = kafir and the are using the same kafir slogan to fight the Ethiopian government can we call it a jihad marka. Lebanon has Christians and Muslims , if there is a muslim jabhad looking for power in Lebanon it cant be considered a jihad. A jihad is when you are fighting in the name of allah wa an fuzahum wa an walahum bi analahumul jannah
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Cumar-Labasuul"
Ok then let say we forget about the name for a minute and foci=us on who the onlf are fighting against, is it somalis fighting for their land against ethiopians? or muslims fighting for their land against christians?
Lets be honest ethiopia has a large muslim population and it wouldn't make a difference to onlf if the government was muslim or christian the fact is that they are fighting against a regime, just like eritrea.
They are Muslim Somalis fighting for the oppressed inhabitants, struggling against Christian colonisation occupation of their land ,according to the quran and many Islamic scholars that is considered Jihad even if the oppressor was a muslim we have obligatory and duty to wage war . It don't matter if Ethiopia has a muslim population,historically, Ethiopia was and still is a Christian empire and In the eyes of Ehiopians and foreigners alike, Ethiopia is still considered a Christian enclave, which attracts the support of other powerful Christian states and the Muslim population within Ethiopia are suppressed and tormented by the ruling Christian dynasties supported by Europe have perpetuated egregious minority rule over the majority.. Once Ogaden is free we will inspire the Muslim Ethiopians to rise up :up:
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The_Emperior5 wrote:
Cumar unlike i respect ur opinions nevertheless i strongly disagree with you..it's not 'their land' it's a Muslim land which is under occupation and the people are oppressed,the name doesn't make any difference..why must we dwell on a trivial useless issues as a name over an entire struggle that has cost millions of lives and property that has spanned over 50 years? and why do some people fear this clan having their name on a region? I understand the need to curb qabiilist sensitivities but changing a region names is way over the top. We need to have a bit of respect for history.


Well you have to understand that the name ogaden was given by British = kafir and the are using the same kafir slogan to fight the Ethiopian government can we call it a jihad marka. Lebanon has Christians and Muslims , if there is a muslim jabhad looking for power in Lebanon it cant be considered a jihad. A jihad is when you are fighting in the name of allah wa an fuzahum wa an walahum bi analahumul jannah
Again why must we occupy ourselfs with the 'O' name and divert attention from the real issues and ignore an entire struggle that has cost millions of lives and property that has spanned over 50 years?Anyone with an ounce of intelligence understands the 'O' name existed long before the British dating back to the Adal Emirate and 15th century, when the Abyssinian Christian Empire, the predecessor of modern day Ethiopia, and the Muslim city-state of Ifat fought periodic wars for control of the Ogaden region..you come across as someone who lacks understanding of Jihad..Jihad is defending your life, property or honor..jihad is fighting for the oppressed women and children..jihad is to fight for what is right and condemn what is wrong such as fighting evil and helping the oppressed even if they were not Muslims, I am doing Jihad right now by preaching its true teachings and advocating for the oppressed.
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Well you have to understand that the name ogaden was given by British = kafir and the are using the same kafir slogan to fight the Ethiopian government can we call it a jihad marka. Lebanon has Christians and Muslims , if there is a muslim jabhad looking for power in Lebanon it cant be considered a jihad. A jihad is when you are fighting in the name of allah wa an fuzahum wa an walahum bi analahumul jannah
Waryaa Emp if the Ogaden peeps have a hidden agenda thats betwwen them and ALLAH swt. The question the thread poses though still stands.When you look at it from an unbiased point, the struggle for freedom is legitimate.Ethiopia never owned this land it was given by the Kuffar to the Habashi bastards unlawfully.
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