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Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:34 pm
by Babygirl-
*Nobleman* wrote:Those against niqab need to provide valid reason why women shouldnt wear niqab. How is preserving more modesty a bad thing?
They want people to be westernized & wear bikinis! and call it "Freedom of Choice" but Muslims are no allowed to wear what they choose.
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:35 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
*Nobleman* wrote:Those against niqab need to provide valid reason why women shouldnt wear niqab. How is preserving more modesty a bad thing?
This is exactly what I was trying to say.
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:37 pm
by *Nobleman*
Babygirl- wrote:*Nobleman* wrote:Those against niqab need to provide valid reason why women shouldnt wear niqab. How is preserving more modesty a bad thing?
They want people to b westernized & wear bikinis! and call "Freedom of Choice" but Muslims are no allowed to wear what they choose.
exactly wearing bikinis is freedom of choice, but when a women decides to wear niqab she is oppressed, double standards.
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:38 pm
by *Nobleman*
[quote="Salaaxley79"]I will never marry a niqabi or any of these new bidah's , I just hate it when baddow people make religion harder on themselves.
However I support the notion that modesty must be preserved 100 % .
And I'm also sceptical to the fatwa runners with no good fundament.
However I don't like hardheaded conservatives...
I put the niqaab , burqa in same category as those who celebrate the prophets birthday ( pbuh )
It's completely bidah, new invention and has no value.
No wonder the Islamic world lags behind.
And oh by the way God knows how much I hate those jalabeeb tents, thats so ugly and too much.
Somali girls often tops it with wrong undelicate colors as well,[/quote]
Yeah because all niqabis are desperate to marry you lol
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:46 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
My sister's friend left her uni just because she had enough of being bullied by muslims for wearing a niqab. When she went to the prayer room the girls would harras her for wearing a niqab saying she is an extremist and it even went to the level that the boys would come up to her telling her why is she hiding her face for and why she is practising bidca. This made her move uni from this type of bullying and the ones who were bullying her weren't even wearing hijabs.
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:47 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
sh.sharif should also ban niqab
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:48 pm
by The_Emperior5
Dumerkeena vitamine dga ku yar marka inaynu sii dadno uma fiicno caafiimadkooda cadceeday uu bahanyihin
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:49 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
*Nobleman* wrote:Those against niqab need to provide valid reason why women shouldnt wear niqab. How is preserving more modesty a bad thing?
Niqaab is tottaly opposed of modesty becouse modesty means women should not drawn to herself more attention than necessary,, i explane this af soomaali my english aint enough.
modesty waa qofka dumarka inaysan indhaha dadka isku soo jeedid. marka niqaab wuxuu soo jitaa indhaha dadka million jeer ka baddan haddii ay gabadhaas aysan xirnaan laheeyn (waji dad) ama niqaab.
masalan maalin summer time kuleeyl ah anigoo ka shaqeynaya centerka Stockholm sweden ayaa waxaa maqaayad ay fadhiyaan dad aad u baddan ah dadka u dhashey wadanka ayaa laamiga waxaa soo marey Naaag somaali ah middle age dhar waaweey wajiga u dadan, waa magaca ilaaheey dadkii meesha fadhiyey ayaan fiirinayey dhamaantood hadalkii inay joojiyeen ayey naxdin iyo amakaag awgeed naagtii fiiris ku bilaabeen.
marka islaamka wuxuu qabaa naagta waa inay wax waliba sameeysaa inaysan dadka indhahooda ama attention-kooda isku soo jiidid(thats modesty) markaad gabadha aysan attentionka dadka isku soo jiidin.
gabadhaas somaaliga ah haddii ay xirnaan laheeyd somali tradion clothes ama xitaa wajiga haddii u furnaan lahaa ATTENTIONKA intaa la eg iskuma soo jiideen.
mara NIQAAB waa agianst modesty, waa NAAAG WINTER TIME MINUS 5 AY TAHAY BIKIINI XIRATEY WADADA SOCOTEY markaas dadka dhan waa fiirin lahaayeen soo maaha.
niaqaab=bikini labadooda waa dhar sheeydaaan mana haboona in dumarka xirtaaan
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:54 pm
by Salaaxley79
First off all Yalaxow we need to emphasise on the input as has been claimed in here by you that niqaab is a preIslamic tradition.
If we can conclude and find evidence on the real age of this product, its gonna help us understand how it silently entered us again as bidah
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:55 pm
by Enlightened~Sista
Crazy Cat Lady wrote:Whatevs. I just hate the damn thing, I have the urge to rip it off their faces whenever I see it (I hold myself back of course)
Laughing aside, It is really sad and painful to see that our religion has become associated with these things.
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:57 pm
by *Nobleman*
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:*Nobleman* wrote:Those against niqab need to provide valid reason why women shouldnt wear niqab. How is preserving more modesty a bad thing?
Niqaab is tottaly opposed of modesty becouse modesty means women should not drawn to herself more attention than necessary,, i explane this af soomaali my english aint enough.
modesty waa qofka dumarka inaysan indhaha dadka isku soo jeedid. marka niqaab wuxuu soo jitaa indhaha dadka million jeer ka baddan haddii ay gabadhaas aysan xirnaan laheeyn (waji dad) ama niqaab.
masalan maalin summer time kuleeyl ah anigoo ka shaqeynaya centerka Stockholm sweden ayaa waxaa maqaayad ay fadhiyaan dad aad u baddan ah dadka u dhashey wadanka ayaa laamiga waxaa soo marey Naaag somaali ah middle age dhar waaweey wajiga u dadan, waa magaca ilaaheey dadkii meesha fadhiyey ayaan fiirinayey dhamaantood hadalkii inay joojiyeen ayey naxdin iyo amakaag awgeed naagtii fiiris ku bilaabeen.
marka islaamka wuxuu qabaa naagta waa inay wax waliba sameeysaa inaysan dadka indhahooda ama attention-kooda isku soo jiidid(thats modesty) markaad gabadha aysan attentionka dadka isku soo jiidin.
gabadhaas somaaliga ah haddii ay xirnaan laheeyd somali tradion clothes ama xitaa wajiga haddii u furnaan lahaa ATTENTIONKA intaa la eg iskuma soo jiideen.
mara NIQAAB waa agianst modesty, waa NAAAG WINTER TIME MINUS 5 AY TAHAY BIKIINI XIRATEY WADADA SOCOTEY markaas dadka dhan waa fiirin lahaayeen soo maaha.
niaqaab=bikini labadooda waa dhar sheeydaaan mana haboona in dumarka xirtaaan
With regards to your argument, all the attention would result in blank outcome because her face etc is covered. From an islamic point of view which would be more fitnah to you a girl wearing a hijab, but obviously her pretty face showing or a girl full covered in a niqab. We shouldnt be too concerned about attention from non muslims.
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:59 pm
by *Nobleman*
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:My sister's friend left her uni just because she had enough of being bullied by muslims for wearing a niqab. When she went to the prayer room the girls would harras her for wearing a niqab saying she is an extremist and it even went to the level that the boys would come up to her telling her why is she hiding her face for and why she is practising bidca. This made her move uni from this type of bullying and the ones who were bullying her weren't even wearing hijabs.
Thats sad. To be honest a girl not wearing a hijab should not be able to even express her opinion on this issue.
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:01 pm
by Lil_Cutie..
What is the fuss about? .. The Niqab debate has been rinsed too many times before. SubhanAllah!
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:02 pm
by Shirib
Crazy Cat Lady wrote:Whatevs. I just hate the damn thing, I have the urge to rip it off their faces whenever I see it (I hold myself back of course)
so I take it that u concede. U have no argument against niqaab and neither does this fatwa
Re: Fatwa against the Niqab
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:04 pm
by surrender
you cannot make haraam what has alah made halaah and you cannot make halaal what allah has made haraam so the westernised people who try so hard to fit their religion and life style with this moder world, go else where(like this article for example) afterall you only fooling yourselves no one else. at the end of the day the niqaab is there for you cover yourselves from men, (It is well-known that the wives of the Prophet covered their faces any time non-mahram men were near. A woman named Asma, who was not a wife of the Prophet, it was also recorded as covering her face. Easily, one can conclude that wearing veil is halal (permissible)) even though in this society the veil draws too much attention, causing men (and women) to look upon her more than normal. but you have to realise that when men 'look', they have nothing of her to see!! the whole point of the veil. so take your excuses else where because the veil is what allah has ordered and no newspaper/website/kuffar reporter is going to take that away.