Habar Yonis...

[The_Emperior5]

empy

I think Habar Awal is hostage to Habar Yoonis in hargeisa today ....
why else would your people use such a weak instrument as letting the uunsionic proletars do demonstrations
why do you wanna remove Riyaale

Egal did one dumb mistake after the habar wars and Garhajis never enganged in one unilateral direction of war.
He imported back HY politicians so he could weaken the importancy of HJ

A classic divide and rule tactic against HJ who thought it was their turn for presidency in 1997 , 2001 and 2003 .



Today Habar Awal is caught in a phyrric victory, basically you have nothing and are owned soon.

Habaryoonis does not want the top seat , they want to be subjects for riyaale and that’s the best they can do , the governer of Woqoyi galbeed is Habarawal the same With Saaxil the largest port of the horn of Africa. For your information habarawal really loves and cares about the somaliland ideology and want free elections to happen , who ever maybe the winner its good for our democracy and our future gaining recognition. But Suberiyada is just divided into udub = maryo alool. And kulmiye calancass. But that’s not the biggest issue habaryoonis are not that ambitious as habarawal or habarjeclo , habarjeclo is aming for the top seat no problem, while habaryoonis says no we don’t want you to become president be like us we love cawil he is the money collecter of riyaale. That’s the difference my friend
Cigaal never imported habaryoonis politicians only those he was using against abdiraxmaan tuur forces and jamac maxammad qalib only those such as sulub and ina warancade and abdiwaraabe. But they where always with cigaal. Fighting against the garxajis.
Habarjeclo want to create a national bank for somaliland they dahabshil launched a debit card last year I mean that’s progress. Habaryoonis is the only clan that their sultan was arrested by riyaaale , in hargeisa there sultan xassan the super awal king bal cidi ha ku dhacdo. Cidi kuma dhacdo sxb.

[Digdahab]

when riyaale fires a minister he replaces him with someone from the same subclan.
look at the defence minister post for example..

when riyaale " arrests " a garhajis its Udubian garhajis behind it .

Just as this dead HJ general... Udubian HJ is behind it .

Be assured if your little sultan says a word he will be arrested and put in isolation by Cirro

Habar Yoonis won't aim for presidency, had it once and that kind of open power is not effective.
When 3/4 of all Isaaqs hates you.

Do you see the pattern emperior?

HY is satisfied with pulling certain strings behind closed doors .
Ultimate goal is to take over the whole puppetshow from the rest in Udub

and right now HA's hands are burning, you played it wrong nicca.
you are on the defensive.

These highly anticipated on the way coming soon, not gonna happen elections
Are actually important to you?

it's a flying fock for habar yoonis really,

[The_Emperior5]

when riyaale fires a minister he replaces him with someone from the same subclan.
look at the defence minister post for example..

when riyaale " arrests " a garhajis its garhajis behind it .

Just as this dead HJ general... Udubian HJ is behind it .

Habar Yoonis won't aim for presidency, had it once and that kind of open power is not effective.
When 3/4 of all Isaaqs hates you.

Do you see the pattern emperior?

HY is satisfied with pulling certain strings behind closed doors .
Ultimate goal is to take over the whole puppetshow from the rest in Udub

and right now HA's hands are burning, you played it wrong nicca.
you are on the defensive.

These highly anticipated on the way coming soon, not gonna happen elections
Are actually important to you?

it's a flying fock for habar yoonis really,

Habaryoonis just lack leadership. And are disunited among them selfs if a muse care elects him self for president other habaryoonis jump on him . habarjeclo are not like that sacadmuse are not like that .. riyaale does that only with the habarawal and habarjeclo because he wants to keep them as his friends. When the commander of the police was fired. Riyaale replaced him with another clan called arab , habaryoonis lost a top seat to a arab. You know why because riyaale does not respect them

Second he replaced the minister of boostada with a habaryoonis was on that post . he lost it to a dhulbahante why is riyaale humiliating the habaryoonis like that.
Habaryoonis is the weakest link in udub and the weakest in mucaraad

habaryoonis lost to top seats to other sublcans ,what do they really rule marka.
While habarawal and habarjeclo never lost any seat and arab gained one lol

[Siciid85]

Emperior,

Sacad Muse aint Ciise muse my friend. Just like this topic is talking about H/yonis and not great garxajis.

Secondly, If you're playing the habar awal card then you should know that Ciise Muse does not support the same party as Sacad Muse. You guys support Kulmiye and ciise muse are die hard udub/Rayaale supporters. They gotten vp, we gotten the whole financial/money in the country. We also got Warancade lined up for 2014 top post. It's already already done deal behind closed doors which you had no access to. That is why your uncle Ismail faqash was crying and saying he has secrets to reveal.

Police cheif and Postal commisioner are not top posts what world do you live in? We got the whole financial keys in our hand that means H/yonis can basically take all the money that comes to Somaliland and run with it. What more important position do you have than that?
Kulmiye leader is silaanyo, and his VP of choice is Gadabursi...what have you gotten? Muse biixi? lool

If I speak as Garxajis we have Ucid, one of major parties and we also run the Udub. Riyaale who is of minority clan cannot possibly run anything without the power and influence of H/yonis. He is Cawil's dog and says as we say. Now we have decided to rehabilitate gabooye clan into H/yonis, whose idea you think that was? it was udub party's idea so they could rack up enough votes to beat Kulmiye once again. Seriously, you guys sitting ducks. Your luck of influence and power is shown by the riots and car burnings and uncivilized ways you misbehaved. It shows that you guys cant get what you want. On the other hand habar yonis is calm, because we are content with our power in SL govt. Good luck finding your way to the top w/Kulmiye in the midst of power hungry h/jeclo.

[The_Emperior5]

Emperior,

Sacad Muse aint Ciise muse my friend. Just like this topic is talking about H/yonis and not great garxajis.

Secondly, If you're playing the habar awal card then you should know that Ciise Muse does not support the same party as Sacad Muse. You guys support Kulmiye and ciise muse are die hard udub/Rayaale supporters. They gotten vp, we gotten the whole financial/money in the country. We also got Warancade lined up for 2014 top post. It's already already done deal behind closed doors which you had no access to. That is why your uncle Ismail faqash was crying and saying he has secrets to reveal.

Police cheif and Postal commisioner are not top posts what world do you live in? We got the whole financial keys in our hand that means H/yonis can basically take all the money that comes to Somaliland and run with it. What more important position do you have than that?
Kulmiye leader is silaanyo, and his VP of choice is Gadabursi...what have you gotten? Muse biixi? lool

If I speak as Garxajis we have Ucid, one of major parties and we also run the Udub. Riyaale who is of minority clan cannot possibly run anything without the power and influence of H/yonis. He is Cawil's dog and says as we say. Now we have decided to rehabilitate gabooye clan into H/yonis, whose idea you think that was? it was udub party's idea so they could rack up enough votes to beat Kulmiye once again. Seriously, you guys sitting ducks. Your luck of influence and power is shown by the riots and car burnings and uncivilized ways you misbehaved. It shows that you guys cant get what you want. On the other hand habar yonis is calm, because we are content with our power in SL govt. Good luck finding your way to the top w/Kulmiye in the midst of power hungry h/jeclo.

Looooooooooool do you know abtirsinta suber awal iyo sicid garxajis ba siman ismacil care iyo sacadmuse ba siiman Muse care iyo ciise muse siman thats how it is my friend cali awal iyo ciidagalle siman if you look down on the genealogy tree , sacad muse and ciise muse are what sicid garxajis are waxayse isku yihin soo baro. Sxb

Second you said ciise muse support udub ooh ofcourse udub is their party they created it they run it alongside their gadabuursi partner even though he is just maqaal saar yar, warancade is not going to be president and you know, he knows it to other habaryoonis don’t even support thim such as the muse care and others ismacil cares.

Do you really think that cawil is doing what he is doing for habaryoonis lol cawil last year said to beesha oodweyne lacag idin ma hayno whats is he use for habaryoonis if he never supported anything they supported if he is just using toget votes from you lot and nothing in return that’s just stupidity simply he is just using you and you are satisfied with a minister post. That’s why gaboose turned out to be mucaraad. Because he could not stand and said habaryoonis wey ka weynyihin wasiir. Udub regime used and abused habaryoonis. Dahabshil ba ka naxay oo labba ambulance ugu deeqay beesha oodweyne.

Well habaryoonis lost those post commander of police post and postal commissioner , what’s left now minister of guryenta iyo minister of haweenka iyo minister of circa iyo dhulka lol, is that what’s left of the mighty habaryoonis
Muse bixi wants to become president after silanyos term is finished he will then be the chairman of kulmiye if silanyo wins minister of finance will go to habarawal the house of elders chairman will go to habarawal the minister of foreign affairs will got to habarawal. And last but not least the Military commander of the army of somaliland will also go under habarawal., this is so disguisting habaryoonis is adding midgaans so that riyaale can stay in power I mean if riyaale was habaryoonis I could of understand it but why risk your name and your dignity for wiil yaro samaroon and adding midgaans to your clan, what a disgusting way of doing things. riyaale officially humiliated beesha habaryoonis with that last move first he arrested their supreme leader then he jailed their political leader then he said lets ads midgaan to your clan so that I can win the vote , habaryoonis is not calm they are just frustrated they lack capacity to rule and they are just insignificant when it comes to somaliland politics, when it was with politics it was always habarawal that was the big dog in the 60s we where leading the snl party and became prime minister of the state of somaliland in the end 60s we where prime minister of Somalia. The manifesto group in Somalia it was cumar carta who was prime minister Golaha sare eh kacaanka it was ina laxwas , The chairman of the snm was ina sheikh madar a habarawal., The ceo chairman of the national bank of Djibouti is habarawal. The minister of interior of Djibouti is habarawal. Even if you look at the terrorist in Somalia the governer of kismayo is habarawal lol. Habarawal became twice the president of kilinka shanaad. A place where garxajis say they are the majority cali iid and abdulmajiid.
Come on siciid. Adna cawil baad la war wareegaysa.

[LiQaaye_TDH]

The problem with the Isaaqs are, we will never admit anything to Each other, look at this Yawle who thinks Cawil Controls the whole of Somaliland and their Economy, the Fact is, the Economy comes from habar Awal and Habar jeclo, and Habaryoonis have nothing to with the money that comes from Soamliland, even Ciidagle have their share of the money! And this Malaria infected Man called Cawil, is just an adviser to Riyoole. the only thing he knows is how steal his pocket money from the goverment. Cawil actually managed to buy his first property in kenya, while Siciid Sulub was here in London begging money from his Habaryoonis kin, and was asking for financial support because of the election is coming up! So where is this Money the HY Controls?

[Digdahab]

ninyow liqaaye I give credit for two things first no Isaaq clan will ever admit any foul or loss
Second a clear majority of commodities imported into Somaliland is HJ and HA if thats what you mean about economy .
I doubt Garhajis has any Inda Deero or Xoogsade calibre importers
However export of goods such as livestock and export-import of qaad is Garhajis domain.
And we can agree everybody has a hotel or two , HA & HJ is masters of imports, but only one holds the key to profit realized in shilling.
Who controls the currency.. If I was any other HJ business beside Dahabshiil, I would be worried for HA devaluation tricks

but somaliland makes no fockin sense, qaad alone should have made Ciidagale the richest clan of all Isaaqs, which is heavily traded in Birr, dollars , djiboutian currency as well.
ina afdinle 571 has been reported to make over 320 000 usd a day. there is a link to this somewhere in SNet

how come he doesn't build a shit for the country or even his own clan Garhajisnimo

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off the post, why is HA eager to get rid of Saleban Gaal these days?

[The_Emperior5]

ninyow liqaaye I give credit for two things first no Isaaq clan will ever admit any foul or loss
Second a clear majority of commodities imported into Somaliland is HJ and HA if thats what you mean about economy .
I doubt Garhajis has any Inda Deero or Xoogsade calibre importers
However export of goods such as livestock and export-import of qaad is Garhajis domain.
And we can agree everybody has a hotel or two , HA & HJ is masters of imports, but only one holds the key to profit realized in shilling.
Who controls the currency.. If I was any other HJ business beside Dahabshiil, I would be worried for HA devaluation tricks

but somaliland makes no fockin sense, qaad alone should have made Ciidagale the richest clan of all Isaaqs, which is heavily traded in Birr, dollars , djiboutian currency as well.
ina afdinle 571 has been reported to make over 320 000 usd a day. there is a link to this somewhere in SNet

how come he doesn't build a shit for the country or even his own clan Garhajisnimo

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off the post, why is HA eager to get rid of Saleban Gaal these days?

Digdahab garxajisnimo never existed, garxajisnimo was alive when ciidagalle and habaryoonis where fighting the mighty super awal. In the 90s But other then that it never existed. For instance ciidagalle are the royal family of isaaq or where the royal family of isaaq century’s ago who destroyed their dynasty and Crowned a sultan in burco out of no where to undermine The sultanate of guleed. Yes no one else but habaryoonis, who is to blame for Maxammad cabdulqadir dhabeye. Downfall its habaryoonis. Who is supporting riyaale over a ciidagalle failsal cali waraabe a reer guleed., again habaryoonis.
The other question ina aafdinel his business is to overrated. He build an hotel in west hargeisa that’s about it. The real money is indeed as liqaaye pointed out with habarawal and habarjeclo

[Dhaga Bacayl]

Waryaadaa,

Meesha ma waxaad iskugi timaadeen inaad isku caydaan.
Listen boys, adeer xishooda oo cayda iska dhaafa Hy iyo HA or HJ midna kaligii waxba kuma helysaan. The civil war among us was one of the dark days in our young history. Don't need to be reminded by anyone... so shut the fuck up.

[LiQaaye_TDH]

ninyow liqaaye I give credit for two things first no Isaaq clan will ever admit any foul or loss
Second a clear majority of commodities imported into Somaliland is HJ and HA if thats what you mean about economy .
I doubt Garhajis has any Inda Deero or Xoogsade calibre importers
However export of goods such as livestock and export-import of qaad is Garhajis domain.
And we can agree everybody has a hotel or two , HA & HJ is masters of imports, but only one holds the key to profit realized in shilling.
Who controls the currency.. If I was any other HJ business beside Dahabshiil, I would be worried for HA devaluation tricks

but somaliland makes no fockin sense, qaad alone should have made Ciidagale the richest clan of all Isaaqs, which is heavily traded in Birr, dollars , djiboutian currency as well.
ina afdinle 571 has been reported to make over 320 000 usd a day. there is a link to this somewhere in SNet

how come he doesn't build a shit for the country or even his own clan Garhajisnimo

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off the post, why is HA eager to get rid of Saleban Gaal these days?

Sxb the Livestock trade, is mainly a Habar Jeclo Business, The live stock might come from Hawd and Zone 5, but what companies buys the Livestock from those poor Reer Miyi People from Hawd? Its 80% Indho-Deero AND Couple of other minor Business men!

Ina Afdiinle is a Rich man, i believe his one of the richest men in Somaliland, but i still agree that his way Overrated, and he doesnt earn anything near that amount you mentioned a Day!

Digadahab... As yo u clearly Mentioned couple of Times, and i know you agree with me, Somaliland is a Habar Awal Dominated Country, as you are mentioning now, they are the ones who Creaed the Currency, and Habar Jeclo were first ones to Refuse the Currency in Easten Somaliland, Thats why the Somaliland Currency dont operate on the Easten Side of Country!

[rich-boy]

how the fuck that this thread turn into Habar Awal vs Garxajiis wasn't a Habar Jeclo guy that posted this i thought divide to conquer was mostly use by us
u lot watch out they not called fox for no reason

by the way i dont think that any particular clan has domination over another they all got parts to play but it is a fact that some got bigger parts

i always wanted to ask why isn't the Somaliland money not use in some part of Somaliland any good reasons ?

[Siciid85]

emperior,

Isn't Habar Awal the equivalence of Garhajis?

Also Warancade in ruling party has better chance of winning than Third rate politician within the opposition. Silaanyo ayaa meel la' xagee Muse bixi uu wadaa ninyow. Say when your daughter is maybe ready to marry my son(who is unborn yet).

Rayaale also arrested one of the founders of SNM, former SL Presidential candidate Mujahid Mohamed Xashi who is your adeero.

[The_Emperior5]

emperior,

Isn't Habar Awal the equivalence of Garhajis?

Also Warancade in ruling party has better chance of winning than Third rate politician within the opposition. Silaanyo ayaa meel la' xagee Muse bixi uu wadaa ninyow. Say when your daughter is maybe ready to marry my son(who is unborn yet).

Let me explain something 2 u my friend let me teach you genealogy

Garxajis Aawal
Siciid Suber
Care Muse
Ismacil sacad

Sidasa lo simanyahay . Sxb udub waxa iska leh ciise muse its either them running for president or samaroon running for president ha ku riyoon inad daqada ka so dhacdid.

[Digdahab]

Maxamed Xaaji Ibrahim Igaal, introduced a national
currency and a national bank. However, the main actors do not trust
Somaliland’s financial policy: national and international companies prefer to
change money on the parallel market (Mubarak 1997).

The government‘s
attempts to support the national financial system failed. For example, in 1995,
the government tried to support the Somaliland Shilling by sanctioning foreign
exchange operations and by fixing the exchange rate, which caused strong
public protest. Many traders threatened the government with moving their
activities to East, where there are no restrictions on
export trade. Bosaso Port *

Even though the parliament dropped this unpopular decree in 1996, the
economy is still very suspicious to state policy (Mubarak 1997). The main
economic actors blame the government for extreme inflation in 1996 as well,
when the state tried to compensate enormous budgetary deficite by printing
money.

The financial tools of Habar Awal shsl currency and the inactive petty national bank are actually not as effective as I thought.

[Siciid85]

emperior,

Both ciise muse and Samaroon are tiny clan, they are neither here or there. You're just hating on habar yonis, typical of sacad muse uunsi boy.

But admit it ciidagale and habar yonis are two distinct clans today as they each have taken their own political path and have never been inter dependent on one another. The same can be said about Sacad Muse and Ciise Muse. Ciidagale achievement is not habar yonis achievement and vice versa. Now stop attaching ciise and sacad muse, because you and I both know they are two distinct clans with different interests. Ciise muse supports Udub and always has, while your clan supports Kulmiye. Habar Yonis have ruled Somaliland and ran the SNM, what has Sacad Muse done?

Why aren't you competing for the top leadership of Somaliland like Habar jeclo(silaanyo), Ciidagale(faysal cali waraabe) and H/yonis (warrancdade) even Samaroon has two vp slots with kulmiye and ucid. Sacad Muse are bussiness people, no politicians with any power. If h/yonis experienced discontent with the ruling party at anytime, they would wreck hovac and you would find yourselves in yaroobe and xarshin refugee camps not low key riots like riyaale dooni mayno. like they did to Igal in '94 and hell will break loose, you know that! Sacad Muse are small timer huunos with no real power or voice in Somaliland. Your best hope at top post in somaliland is muuse biixi and he is a loong shot from Presidency...timirtii hore dab loo waa. Even ciidagale has formed their own party, while sacad muse is sitting behind H/jeclo party hoping they will get something after Silaanyo retires.