Bashir Goth (another Somali Islamaphope??)

[ModerateMuslim]

SomaliStar,

I condemn him

see, even AW condemns him.

[military-mind]

Keep your knickers on lads.. no one is attacking deenta

[AbdiWahab252]

SomaliStar,

I condemn clowns all the time. I still remember an insulting article this clown wrote about the Children of Sheik Ahmed Hawiye who had killed hundreds of smelly Xabashi soldiers in Xamar. He had the gall to call the Defenders of the Nation, 'savages' while shedding tears for the Xabashi dead.

[ModerateMuslim]

SomaliStar,

I condemn clowns all the time. I still remember an insulting article this clown wrote about the Children of Sheik Ahmed Hawiye who had killed hundreds of smelly Xabashi soldiers in Xamar. He had the gall to call the Defenders of the Nation, 'savages' while shedding tears for the Xabashi dead.

attacking the deen directly is worse than him calling al-shabab savages

[AbdiWahab252]

Somalistar,

The Defenders of the Nation were the Hawiyes United Towards Ugaarsi (HUTU) who inflicted the harshest casualities on the Ethiopian invasion forces.

God Bless Sheik Ahmed Diiriye, Grand Chief of Hawiye Unity and Cultural Council who spoke in 2007 at the height of the fighting

[Executive]

Bashiir Good...Waa nin aad u qiimo badan. All he needs to do is, to come back to his religion and support Nin rag ah, koley mar uunbuu isa sixi doonaa

Subxanallah, he is one of Islams enemies, Have you ever read his blog?

Proof, my brother, proof. You can't label someone an enemy of Islam and expect people to just take your word for it (even though I consider you one of the more reasonable people in these parts).

I referred her to his blog, where he has posted several anti-islamic articles. And this is not the first time this character has been exposed on Somalinet. When you claim Islam oppresses women and Islam is the reason why ppl praise white skin, then you are directly attacking Islam and therefore deemed a enemy of islam. This topic is proof enough, I am not going to bother searching for his articles, some of them have already been posted here.

Horta are you selective when you question people? Kumbuli said he needs to come back religion, suggesting that he left islam, aren't you going to ask her for proof?

[surrender]

I’m just trying to understand where this man is coming without sounding judgmental.


Somalia/UAE - Muslim women can only envy their Western sisters rising to the highest political leadership: Angela Merkel, Tarja Halonen, Hillary Clinton, and Segolene Royal. Turn to the Muslim world and the media will surprise you with daily reports of honor killings, hudood laws, female genital mutilation, social segregation, and political discrimination against women.

Since when did we Muslim Somali Women in particular become ‘sisters’ with these western women? For these women he mentioned above, for them to do what they did, they had no religious belief, no cultural principles, they did what they did because they were told that in order to get somewhere in life you have to dress, talk like men and stand like men. Through out history Muslim women held important political positions (I mentioned few of these women below in the next paragraph) what do Muslim women be envy of? The western life style or the important roles they held and how they changed their communities? Most Western politically active women only are given that position or choose to become involved in politics for competition purpose they have their male associates, the glam life style is comes with, the fame and the money. Not because they actually care about the people they going to lead or want to see peace in the world. I can name only few who worked towards the actual purpose of the title of their jobs. But I can say that Muslim women in history who were politically involve did what they did because they actually cared about the people, the responsibilities and so on. Not many people are aware of Muslim women in history that were politically active because they are never given voice here in the west. The western media wants to portray Muslim women as oppressed and abused people. But if you really look in history and learn how important Muslim women were you will see that what media portrays isn’t the actual truth.

No matter how much they strain marshal all kinds of excuses for the lack of female empowerment, Muslim men always avoid mentioning the real truth. In almost every report and study prepared on the situation of women, Muslim and Arab intellectuals fail to mention Islam as part of the problem.

Islam is not part of the problem, is actually part of the solution, its just that the people who are leaders, or suppose to lead the Muslim Ummah are not doing good job, there is a difference between Islam and Muslim, he ought to learn it. Did Islam allowed honor killing, FGM, Social segregation and political discrimination? Can he bring proof that any of these are allowed in Islam? And if there are honor killing, FGM, Social segregation and political discrimination among us Muslims is because of people making what their forefathers taught them as culture part of the religion. Religion does not allow FGM, and honor killing I can tell you that now. As for Social segregation and political discrimination, every country every culture, went through a period were women were segregated socially and politically, just look at Europe, it wasn’t always like this, there was a time when girls were not allowed to go to school, women were not allowed to vote and forget about careers. You can’t say that about Islam though because it does allow women to be politically active, learn the history of Aisha Bint Abu Bakr, renowned hadith scholar, Scholar of Law, the Giver of Fatwaas (Independent Rulings), Educator and Public Speaker and military leader. Khadija Bint Kuwaylid, a successful businesswoman. Samra bint Nuhayk al Asadiyya - market inspector. Ash Shifa bint Abdullah - skilled in medicine public administration - Umar appoints her wali of administration of the marketplace. Khawlah bint al-Azwar was a black knight at the time of Prophet Mohammed. Rabi'ah Bint Mu'awwad - great scholar of fiqh, taught ntellectual scholars of Madina (to name but a few) these women played a vital role in the Muslim community, and not only in traditional roles.

Calling for "...the dismantling of the centuries-old structures of discrimination against women," was the nearest that any Arab study has ever come to broaching this issue

Arabs do not represent Islam, as matter of fact there are small portion of Muslims today who Arabs, you cannot judge what Arab do as part of their culture as being part of Islam. There was very good reason why Allah chosed a man among the Arabs to deliver this religion to all mankind, and some of it we seeing it today.

But it is on Islam, rightly or wrongly used, that all reactionary groups base their arguments in denying women their rights. The truth is that women oppressors such as the Union of Islamic Courts in Somalia love to base the exclusion of women from political life by quoting the Prophet's saying: "No people will ever succeed if they hand their affairs to a woman."

He should know by now the so called ‘Union of Islamic courts’ in Somalia were nothing but warlords who used the religion for their political purpose. I can quote any ayah in the Quran and interpret it the way I like. They did exactly that to gain support from ignorant people. If people don’t learn the religion for themselves, they can be easily misled and that’s what happened in Somalia. You can’t blame the religion for the actions of these men.

It is on the basis of another saying of the Prophet, which says: "When one of you inflicts a beating, he should avoid striking the face" that many Muslim men use to justify their physical abuse of women. Any argument that is raised against the authenticity of these sayings will not change anything as long as there are people who want to use Islam to oppress women.

Exactly I think he answered that himself. People are using the religion to interpret the way they like, it does not mean the religion told them to do that, but they just interpret it for their own gain. Look at Afghanistan and the Taliban; I really like to know which ayah or Hadith they had when they declared that wives were allowed to be raped by their husbands? I mean I know this is controversial issue, but I want to know the exact ayah and/or hadith. I can tell you now, wives are not allowed to be raped by their husbands, she is advised not to refuse her husband for sexual pleasures, and if she does the angles will curse her till fajar, but where does it say he should force her for refusing him? People use all sorts of cultural habits to claim that is the religion. For an educated man he should know that by now.

My Somali people still use female genital mutilation to protect women's virginity. As I wrote for Al Jazeera in a previous editorial about this issue:

And whose fault is that exactly? Our African culture or the religion?

This physical torture and mutilation of women's God-given sexual organs...causes enormous and life-long psychological scar to our women. It is a cruel and abusive practice aimed at...teaching them [women] that they are property and like any other property they have to be kept in lock and latches. It tells them that they are not trustworthy even with their own bodies and deprives them of having a healthy and comfortable sex life. They learn that they are only worth the scar and the stitches they carry...

Again Islam does not allow FGM. That is bad cultural habits in Africa that needs to be wiped out, it has nothing to do with Islam. Sunni circumcision is allowed but FGM is not.

Islamists may call this practice un-Islamic from now to eternity, but give me a single one of them who would accept an uncircumcised woman as his bride. Rightly or wrongly, the root cause of the problem goes to the nobleness of virginity that Islam ingrains in the minds of the believers.

This is why the Islamists in Mogadishu are herding women back to the home. Sadly, these are the same Somali women of whom the renowned Kenyan-American Professor Ali Mazrui once predicted to be the first in Africa to attain their country's presidency.

For every denial of rights a woman faces, whether it is not being able to drive a car, go to school, have a fair share of inheritance, marry the man she loves, take part in public decision-making, or simply wear what she chooses, it is always Islam that is put as a tall wall before her. I wonder when Muslim scholars will stop being apologetic and sift the right from the wrong in Islam to give women their right place in society.

There is acceptable reason for women not to have fair share of inheritance, Arijaalu qawaamiina cala nisaa anyone? For everything else he mentioned are men made laws, nothing to do with the religion. Muslim women were librated and free through the Quran and the Sunnah. Is only greedy men (and some women who let them) that took the religion, interpret it the way they liked, made laws out of it, and forced people upon it. What’s happening to Muslims today is of their own fault, it has nothing to do with Islam. The Islamic religion is the ultimate answer to mankind, is the salvation and solution to all problems, it was send down to mankind so they can use the religion as guidance through out their lifetime, no matter where they are, which language they speak, and what season they are in. Is perfect in every form, is only when men alter the religion that people become corrupt at their own rulings and judgments.

[Cawar]

Another Ayan Hersi..
You shouldnt post his views..cos no one here care and/or should care.

[djibsomali]

Bashir goth is one the worst product of awdal.

He is beyong redemption and would be happy him to be trial by an islamic court.

the worst of Awdal is : bashir goth

middle ( a bit lost islamically ) is: Prof ahmed samatar ( the one who is trying to be president of somalia)


Islamicaly the best of awdal intellect is : Prof Abdi samatar (brother of ahmed) very good man with dagan and deen.

[XKeyse_]

Look at them Arab side kicks crying for Islam, Bashir Goth head it right in the head and iam glad there are somali intellectuals who are willing to risk it all and stand against the skirt wearing Arab wanna bees who stone people left and right to death crying and squealing in Arabic.

Islam is a faken backward religion and its fruits is shown in Arab culture when 90% of the nation engages in homosexual acts,

[suga_delic]

mre like Ayaanle Hirsi.



the dickhead hu posted above me, da religion doesnt need u. Knw dat. U nid da religion.

[XKeyse_]

no thanks i don't need Arabs to tell me god lives inside that black box in Saudi Arabia.

[Ganjaweed]

no thanks i don't need Arabs to tell me god lives inside that black box in Saudi Arabia.

Soo much stupidity, hate and blasphemy in just 1 line.

[nomadicwarlord]

The best remedy for individuals like Bashir Goth is to ignore him completely. His views are irrelevant, don't lose sleep over it.

[Queen_Arawello]

no thanks i don't need Arabs to tell me god lives inside that black box in Saudi Arabia.

Horta have you been sexually abused by arabs, your hate for Islam is based on arab culture, Arab is a culture and Islam is a religion