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Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:47 pm
by gurey25
not really abdi, with the contruction of the simple piers, preferably prefabricated and the assembled on location you can do it quickly and cheaply.
With the dredging and use of normal construction cranes to unload and load cargo you can get a port with probably 30% to %50 of Bossaso that can take dhows and small to medium sized ships for under $10 million.

im sure habar gidir can come up with $10 million, easy.
they have spent more than that on ammunition alone, in the past.

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:52 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Gurey25,

Indeed we can. Your Rer abti alone can do it :up:

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:01 pm
by Dhaga Bacayl
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Dhaga,

Of course my Fellow Sacad :up:

Habarta iyo Sacadkuba way inaga dhaxeeyaan saaxiib. Don't you know that?

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:05 pm
by Jesteye
Oxidant wrote:
dawwa9 wrote:Uniforms and AK-47’s are cheap (less than 1000$ per soldier)

So you guys have no excuse for their sad demonstration compared to Djibouti
Do you not see the Helicopters in the background?

They were not holding AK-47, they were holding other automatics.

Djibouti has more men and paved roads to make demonstrations look better.

Again, how can you compare Galmudug to Djibouti


Okay.

Lets compare GalMudug and Djibouti.

Image

GalMudug:

- Population is estimated to be 425000 People ( 140000 on WFP food).
- GalMudug land mass is estimated to be 46,000-51 700 km2 depending on who you ask ( LNGOs/Local Govt).
- Coastline: 365 km
- Natural resources; Fishery,Livestocks, Gas, Uranium, Clay, Limestone, Marble, Salt, Gypsum, Rare earth Metals etc. And don't FORGOT the oldest oil test WELL in Somalia is located in Northern Wisil.
- Exports commodities: Fish, Livestocks, Hides, Skins, and Charcoals.
- Education infrastructure: 5 High Schools, 7 Middle Schools and One University under construction
- Civil infrastructure: 100km Road
- Political System: Federal Multi-party
- Status: Autonomies Regional State (2006)
- Budget: 1-2 Million USB/ 3-5 Billion Somali Shillings

More Information see (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galmudug).

Djibouti:
-Population: 724,622 (July 2009 est.)
-land: 23,180 sq km
-Coastline: 314 km
-Natural resources: geothermal areas, gold, clay, granite, limestone, marble, salt, diatomite, gypsum, pumice, petroleum
-Exports commodities: livestocks, hides and skins, coffee
-Education infrastructure: One University and Schools?! Unknown.
-Civil infrastructure: Unknown
-Political System: One party System
-Status: Republic (1977)
-Budget:
revenues: $135 million
expenditures: $182 million (1999 est.)
More information see (https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... j.html#top).


GalMudug is 50% bigger and has more proven natural resources.

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:09 pm
by Jesteye
Twisted_Logic wrote:
Jesteye wrote:Well done President Alin!

GalMudug needed station in the central regions. I hope GMS starts taxing the vehicles heading to Galkacyo and Basaaso Port.

Twisted_Logic,

Salaan sare.

Galia,

Good job.
Welcome Back, brah :up:
Thanks man.

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:14 pm
by Jesteye
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Dhaga,

I am promoting the notion of a Republic of Galmudug as way to promote peace in the Horn. The Republic would be a boundary between the North and South and prevent conflict from spreading in either direction.
Preaching R.I.P Somalia?! :down:

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:20 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Jesteye,

No, I am preaching R.I.P. (Reviving Intelligent People).

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:28 pm
by Jesteye
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Jesteye,

No, I am preaching R.I.P. (Reviving Intelligent People).
Hehehehehehehehe!

:up: 8-)

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:38 pm
by GeoDesic
Hawiye turub baray :lol: :lol: :lol:



Away zabtii/sabtii? Diyeeshe would know what ZAB IS. Feestadaan sab la'aan ma soconayso waraada, bariis iyo hilib keena aan si fiican idinla dabaaldegnee :lol:

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:56 pm
by James Dahl
Somalia should probably go the way of the UAE, with Mogadishu filling the role of Dubai.

Every clan can have it's own kingdom or republic within the federation, and manage their own affairs, negotiate their own trade deals, etc.
For national matters the heads of state can all just get together and come to an agreement.

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:01 pm
by Jesteye
James Dahl wrote:Somalia should probably go the way of the UAE, with Mogadishu filling the role of Dubai.

Every clan can have it's own kingdom or republic within the federation, and manage their own affairs, negotiate their own trade deals, etc.
For national matters the heads of state can all just get together and come to an agreement.
Awesome Idea. :up:

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:05 pm
by gurey25
Thats the obvious answer, but people continue to believe in the concept of a TFG.
a TFG cannot work, you cannot have members of parlaiment that have not been elected and have no constituents.

Somalia can only be built from the bottom up.

every town and its surrounding villages should form a canton, every city and its environs also a canton.
instead of having 15 provinces in somalia we need to have at least 200 self governing cantons.

ofocurse these will be qabiil based, allowing every qabiil its independance..

once you have these forming a national government is a piece of cake.

..
all you need is for people to understand that a TFG appointed outside of somalia and under the influence of our nieghbours can never work.

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:07 pm
by SummerRain
gurey25 wrote:Thats the obvious answer, but people continue to believe in the concept of a TFG.
a TFG cannot work, you cannot have members of parlaiment that have not been elected and have no constituents.

Somalia can only be built from the bottom up.

every town and its surrounding villages should form a canton, every city and its environs also a canton.
instead of having 15 provinces in somalia we need to have at least 200 self governing cantons.

ofocurse these will be qabiil based, allowing every qabiil its independance..

once you have these forming a national government is a piece of cake.

..
all you need is for people to understand that a TFG appointed outside of somalia and under the influence of our nieghbours can never work.
No kidding. There needs to be a pill to take for this concept to sink in with Somalis.

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:15 pm
by Oxidant
Jesteye wrote:
Oxidant wrote:
dawwa9 wrote:Uniforms and AK-47’s are cheap (less than 1000$ per soldier)

So you guys have no excuse for their sad demonstration compared to Djibouti
Do you not see the Helicopters in the background?

They were not holding AK-47, they were holding other automatics.

Djibouti has more men and paved roads to make demonstrations look better.

Again, how can you compare Galmudug to Djibouti


Okay.

Lets compare GalMudug and Djibouti.

Image

GalMudug:

- Population is estimated to be 425000 People ( 140000 on WFP food).
- GalMudug land mass is estimated to be 46,000-51 700 km2 depending on who you ask ( LNGOs/Local Govt).
- Coastline: 365 km
- Natural resources; Fishery,Livestocks, Gas, Uranium, Clay, Limestone, Marble, Salt, Gypsum, Rare earth Metals etc. And don't FORGOT the oldest oil test WELL in Somalia is located in Northern Wisil.
- Exports commodities: Fish, Livestocks, Hides, Skins, and Charcoals.
- Education infrastructure: 5 High Schools, 7 Middle Schools and One University under construction
- Civil infrastructure: 100km Road
- Political System: Federal Multi-party
- Status: Autonomies Regional State (2006)
- Budget: 1-2 Million USB/ 3-5 Billion Somali Shillings

More Information see (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galmudug).

Djibouti:
-Population: 724,622 (July 2009 est.)
-land: 23,180 sq km
-Coastline: 314 km
-Natural resources: geothermal areas, gold, clay, granite, limestone, marble, salt, diatomite, gypsum, pumice, petroleum
-Exports commodities: livestocks, hides and skins, coffee
-Education infrastructure: One University and Schools?! Unknown.
-Civil infrastructure: Unknown
-Political System: One party System
-Status: Republic (1977)
-Budget:
revenues: $135 million
expenditures: $182 million (1999 est.)
More information see (https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... j.html#top).


GalMudug is 50% bigger and has more proven natural resources.
Wallahi, Common sense is not winning in this thread


So what if GalMudug is 50% bigger and has more proven natural resources. Without a central government and sufficient infrastructure those resources cannot be capitalize on.

Re: Galmudug opens a military facility in Ceel-Guula (See Pics)

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:23 pm
by Twisted_Logic
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Jesteye,

No, I am preaching R.I.P. (Reviving Intelligent People).
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: