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Lordpick.. Firstable dont take this Somaliland parliament stats as Facts, they were biggest set up, by the Current Riyaale regime to get enough MPs on his side, the most of the mps that came out were Clans that supports UDUB!

as some people already mentioned, the Candidates from the Biggest subclans of the Isaaqs had the least Mps and some of them didnt even have 1 mp, look athe habar Yoonis their largest subclan Reer Caynaashe wich is the largest subclan of HY had 0mps, and Muse carre did not get 1 mp as well! are you telling us they didnt have enough numbers to get them out as mps!

Look at the Ciidagale who is twice the size of Arap had only 2 mps and while Arap who is smaller had 5mps :shock: and Ciise Muse Alone had 7mps how the fock can that be possible? :lol:

another thing Beesha Sacad Muse who is the Majority of Gobolka Hargeisa had only 9 mps out of 21 WTF :lol: and that because of their Mucaaradnimo! all the Pro Udubs had good turn outs!

Habar jeclo was expecting this to happen, Togdheer regions was the biggest set up, where we shared 7HJ and 7 HY :lol:

Ciise Muse pro UDUB
Habar Yoonis pro UDUB
Samaroon pr0 UDUB
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LiQaaye_TDH wrote:Lordpick.. Firstable dont take this Somaliland parliament stats as Facts, they were biggest set up, by the Current Riyaale regime to get enough MPs on his side, the most of the mps that came out were Clans that supports UDUB!

as some people already mentioned, the Candidates from the Biggest subclans of the Isaaqs had the least Mps and some of them didnt even have 1 mp, look athe habar Yoonis their largest subclan Reer Caynaashe wich is the largest subclan of HY had 0mps, and Muse carre did not get 1 mp as well! are you telling us they didnt have enough numbers to get them out as mps!

Look at the Ciidagale who is twice the size of Arap had only 2 mps and while Arap who is smaller had 5mps :shock: and Ciise Muse Alone had 7mps how the fock can that be possible? :lol:

another thing Beesha Sacad Muse who is the Majority of Gobolka Hargeisa had only 9 mps out of 21 WTF :lol: and that because of their Mucaaradnimo! all the Pro Udubs had good turn outs!

Habar jeclo was expecting this to happen, Togdheer regions was the biggest set up, where we shared 7HJ and 7 HY :lol:


liqaaye do not be offended but when it is togdherr you and Hy share equally sxb but you can say we are majority in burco,
and in hargeysa 21 mambers it should have been like this fairly 9 sacad muuse 7 ciidagale 5 arab, it is almost correct but stupid ciidagales did not vote smartly and secondly we are in ethiopia

Ciise Muse pro UDUB
Habar Yoonis pro UDUB
Samaroon pr0 UDUB
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hargaysaay wrote:
LiQaaye_TDH wrote:Lordpick.. Firstable dont take this Somaliland parliament stats as Facts, they were biggest set up, by the Current Riyaale regime to get enough MPs on his side, the most of the mps that came out were Clans that supports UDUB!

as some people already mentioned, the Candidates from the Biggest subclans of the Isaaqs had the least Mps and some of them didnt even have 1 mp, look athe habar Yoonis their largest subclan Reer Caynaashe wich is the largest subclan of HY had 0mps, and Muse carre did not get 1 mp as well! are you telling us they didnt have enough numbers to get them out as mps!

Look at the Ciidagale who is twice the size of Arap had only 2 mps and while Arap who is smaller had 5mps :shock: and Ciise Muse Alone had 7mps how the fock can that be possible? :lol:

another thing Beesha Sacad Muse who is the Majority of Gobolka Hargeisa had only 9 mps out of 21 WTF :lol: and that because of their Mucaaradnimo! all the Pro Udubs had good turn outs!

Habar jeclo was expecting this to happen, Togdheer regions was the biggest set up, where we shared 7HJ and 7 HY :lol:


liqaaye do not be offended but when it is togdherr you and Hy share equally sxb but you can say we are majority in burco,
and in hargeysa 21 mambers it should have been like this fairly 9 sacad muuse 7 ciidagale 5 arab, it is almost correct but stupid ciidagales did not vote smartly and secondly we are in ethiopia

Ciise Muse pro UDUB
Habar Yoonis pro UDUB
Samaroon pr0 UDUB
liqaaye dont get offended but it is like this you and Hy share togdheer equally but you can say we are majority in burco,
and in hargeysa 21 votes it should be like this 9 sacad muuse 7 ciidagale 5 arab,
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The_Emperior5 wrote:
Siciid85 wrote:Keyse the same way they split Garhajis into HY and Ciidagale.

Wrong Sicid garxajis and suber awal ba siman
Cali awal iyo Ciidagalle ba siman


Ismacil
care
siciid
Garxajis isxaaq

Sacad
muse
Suber
Awal
Isxaaq

ismacil care iyo sacadmuse siman Abtirsin ahaan :lol:

please emperor I tought you were little bit xogogaal man, and how in the blue hell can you compare us to cali awal which is discovered by you, I bet cali awal afgaab cigale all of them are less then abokor muuse subclan only, so sxb dont be jelous you are in 2nd place of course after the mighty garxajis :D
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Liqaaye, let me correct Reer Caynaanshe did have some candidates and do have some MPS in the government, The Somaliland Minister of Family and Social Development, - Marwo Fadumo Suudii is Reer Caynaanshe, here is she.


Hot Mama. :oops:

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Togdheer UCID Cabdilaahi Jaamac Muuse Ismaaciil - Issaq-Habr Yonis-Bah Ainashe Male MP


Togdheer UCID Luul Xaashi Cawad Carraale - Issaq-Habr Yonis-Reer Ainashe Female MP


- Togdheer UDUB Xasan Jaamac Cali Nur Bacad - Issaq-Habr Yonis-Reer Ainashe MP



it's also the fact that Reer Caynaanshe have heavy numbers in ethiopia so it wouldn't be fair if they also have heavy MPS in somaliland so it had to be shared around with the other Xirsi Cismaans - such as Bah Dhulbahante who had about 4 candidates 2 hargeysa and 2 in togdheer i am surprised.


as for the Ciidagale they have been unfairly under represented since most of their populations are in the Hawd Ethiopia, also Reer Caynaanshe is a big sub clan we all know that but they are part of Cumar Cabdalle - Cumar Cabdalle is the biggest section of H.Y then you have Muse Ismaaciil, but Muse ismaaciil is like 5 times bigger when compared to Reer Caynaanshe in Somaliland i am not sure about Ethiopia though , Xirsi Cismaan and Muse Ismaaciil could be a stalemate though or even Xirsi Cismaan could be bigger since they have numerous numbers in the hawd, but then again Muse ismaaciil - Reer Cawl also do have some numbers in the Hawd specially Gorgor , Danood areas, the ciidagale in somaliland didn't elect their MPS smartly the problem was addressed by Yawle in another thread the reason behind their mistake of putting all their votes on two man instead of sharing the votes for the 8 deserved MPS of Ciidagale - since their deegaan geography in Waqooyi Galbeed right number should have been 8 MPS, but they will play smartly this upcoming elections they have learned their lesson to never just put their might in two man only .




And lastly as you can see H.Y were also Pro UCID and UDUB at the same time - 47% of H.Y voted for UCID , and 39% voted for UDUB , 14% voted for Kulmiye.



"For some reason, the Habar Yoonis candidates in Kulmiye did not attract the votes of the Habar Yoonis electorate – just 18,540 votes (14%), compared to the 61,025 (47%) and 51,588 (39%) received by the Habar Yoonis candidates from UCID and UDUB. For this reason, just one of the 17 Habar Yoonis MPs belongs to Kulmiye, while there are eight each from UCID and UDUB. Kulmiye clearly had difficulties in recruiting Garxajis candidates to its party. In Sanaag, it could not find any credible Habar Yoonis candidates who enjoyed the support of the Habar Yoonis electorate or leaders. And in Hargeysa, Kulmiye faced the same problem, with its Habar Yoonis/Ciidangale candidate receiving most of his votes from non-Garxajis sub-clans."





And here is a reference of the Ciidagale problem and the mistake they made a reference from Proffesor Yawle anaylzing what the problem that occured within the ciidagale when electings MPS.


"With reference to the below post, I was thinking to eleminate this sort of a problem which occured to the Ciidagale clan in the last parliamentary elections. We should introduce a tweaked version of " preferencing voting" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferential_voting).

The idea behind preferential voting is that, some candidates in a typical election will get more votes than is required to become an MP. These excess number of votes can be donated to a "prefered" candidate who might be strugling to cross the line. So at the end of the day, the Political Party which is more popular in the general elections (number of votes) will earn the biggest number of parliament seats. Hence, instead of those votes being wasted for nothing, they are counted.


The Ciidagale voted not smartly. They voted for a select small number of people, when they needed to spread their votes across a number of candidates. For example, the owner of Ambassador Hotel got the largest number of votes throughout the country, about 15,000 votes alone. That number of votes were enough to bring 3 MPs into parliament. The second runner up was also another Ciidagale guy Mahdi Buuba who recieved over 10,000 votes too..

In comparison, the Sacad Muse and Arap clans averaged between 7 thousand and 4 thousand votes for their MPs that crossed the line. The 20 candidates with the biggest votes were chosen into Parliament... and Ciidagale spent all their voting power for a select number of candidates. I am sure they learned their lesson and the upcoming election in 2011 will be different."
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lali99 wrote:for those who havent heard of cabdallah sacaad, on you next visit to hargeysa visit xaafadaha 26june..its basically their degaan :twisted:..plus they also lives in large numbers in jabuuti


emperior, the isaaq minister in jabuuti you refering to is ali abdi and he used to be the foreign minister but now is the communication minister..by the way waa reer liban sxb..

as for the gadabuur that are talking shit, waar you only have one minister in jabuuti, how dare you talk as if you have any say or power in jabuuti?..the audacity of some..

plus those numbers in 2002 election in somaliland, it was not a one man one vote thus why kulmiyey was crying out about being cheated so for anyone that believe those numbers are real must have their head in their ass.... 80 votes difference?? as a ghetto dude will say: cmon son for real


Haa kaasan sheegaya are u sure he was reer libaan i though he was cigalle muse i bet there is a cigalle muse wasiir in Djibouti
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Liqaaye, I get what you're saying bro, but how comes i cant see a single A Madoobe on the list of candidates.

Sicid: could you list the sub-clans of HY MPs, for example how many Muuse Ismail MPs? and also, is there any difference between Gadhweyn and Reer Cawl?
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lord are you reer isaaq of ogaadeen
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hargaysaay wrote:lord are you reer isaaq of ogaadeen
I am not sxb, another sub-clan
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Lord Diplock wrote:Liqaaye, I get what you're saying bro, but how comes i cant see a single A Madoobe on the list of candidates.
Cawl?
Lordpik.... Silaanyo is Aadan Madoobe, his the one who ordered the Adan Madoobe not to stand as a candidate for the election! There was 3 Candidates from Adan madoobe not one of them Took part because of silaanyo!
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Lorddiplock, i don't have the all list of the sub clans of the 17 MPS of H.Y but what i know for a fact is Abdallah Ismaaciil - Including Reer Caynaanshe , Xirsi Cismaan , Muse ismaaciil have the lion share , SY are also included - Cismaaciil Carre have like 13 - 12 MPS the rest 5 left MPS wa Habar Yoonista kale , Muse carre have about 2 MPS , and Ishaak Carre about 3 MPS the rest of the 12 left MPS are taken by Cismaaciil Carre since they are 60 percent or more of H.Y so you see it's a competition within H.Y so it's not that easy when you got very Laandheer sub clans such as Xirsi Cismaan pitted against you :lol: .
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Siciiid stop chatting shid, Muse Carre and Reer Caynaashe dont have 1mp...
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I already told you Reer Caynaanshe have Marwo Fadumo Suudi - The Somaliland Minister of Family and Social Development.
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Siciid85 wrote:I already told you Reer Caynaanshe have Marwo Fadumo Suudi.
That is True, but im sure she took the Ciidagale Marxuum's position!
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That is beside the point , the point was to show Lorddiplock which sub clans of H.Y have the most MPS within H.Y well it's Xirsi Cismaan because there is so much competition even within Xirsi Cismaan imagine each 1 of them wants 1-3 MP seats , such as Bah Dhulbahante , Reer Waraabe , Sicid Xirsi , Reer Caynaanshe, Reer Sugalle, Fahiiye Xirsi , Ali Xirsi , Reer Wayd etc so that is why i said to Lorddiplock it's not easy especially if you are competing with Xirsi Cismaan, so he shouldn't be surprised if Muse carre don't get much.
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