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Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:21 pm
by abdalla11
OK, gartay. I don't recall anything that the prophet said about that, but that's not a reason to diswon this shaykh and to say that he's not right in his head.
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:24 pm
by Mad May
^ The Prophet SAW sought the advice of his wives, why would he do that if they were less wise than their male counterparts?
And the fatwa calling for the death of Mickey Mouse made me think that he was wax yar waalan
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:07 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Islamqa is run by madkhalis.dont be shocked or surprised at some of their silly fatwas.
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:24 pm
by ModerateMuslim
Mad May wrote:This pissed me off:
The husband is physically stronger and is more wise than the wife.
i wanna share with you one of my favorite hadeeths:
Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla [ to offer the prayer ] on 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you [ women ]." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you [ women ]. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man ?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."[/quote]
eat your hearts out, feminist hack
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:26 pm
by ModerateMuslim
HutuKing01 wrote:Islamqa is run by madkhalis.
far from it, silly sufi/shia.
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:34 pm
by *Nobleman*
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:36 pm
by abdalla11
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:41 pm
by *Nobleman*
As for the topic , dont take her attempts to generate controversy and attention serious. In other words dont feed the trolls.
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:42 pm
by Dionysus
Madmay/Leila25/StupidSista...
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:50 pm
by Mad May
Hutuking, I figured, I check it from time to time for laughs/masochism
Somalistar, context is all
ITS MEANING IS NOT LITERAL
The hadith here uses two figures of speech: the first is hyperbole (mubalagha) meaning exaggeration in the words "even a prudent, sensible man might be led astray by some of you" i.e. a fortiori an ordinary man.
The second figure is synechdoche (majaz mursal) consisting in using the whole for the part: intelligence to mean the specific legal testimony of a woman, and religion to mean the prayer and fast at the time of menses.
Numerous verses and other narrations stress that the reward of women equals that of men even if their acts differ. So this particular narration is not meant literally but as an acknowledgment of the inordinate power women wield over men while ostensibly less active in the public and spiritual spheres.
THREE ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND MEANINGS
Three additional meanings provide an indispensable completion of the picture of this hadith. These meanings revolve around fundraising for jihad, the blame of women's cursing of their husbands, and the playfulness of the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, with his female public.
1. FUNDRAISING
The real import of the hadith - spoken at the Farewell Pilgrimage - and its actual context was that the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, challenged the women that were present to realize that unless they helped raise money with their gold and jewelry, they would miss the reward of men waging jihad as well as show ingratitude.
2. BLAME OF CURSING
In the full version of the hadith the Prophet upon him blessings and peace, also orders the women to ask forgiveness and desist from frequently cursing their husbands. All this was spoken at a time of (1) the impending departure of the latter on jihad; (2) the impending departure of the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, from this world; and (3) the fact that "Cursing the believer is like killing him."
3. PLAYFULNESS
The Prophet upon him blessings and peace, was also being playful in his use of strong terms to impress this teaching on the listeners.
Ruqayyah Waris Maqsud writes:
"After the Farewell Pilgrimage at the Eid prayer, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) walked past the men leaning on Bilal's arm, and came to the rows of women behind them. Bilal spread out a cloth and the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) urged the women to be generous with their gifts of charity, for when he had been allowed a glimpse into the flames of Hell, he had noted that most of the people being tormented there were women. The women were outraged, and one of them instantly stood up boldly and demanded to know why that was so. 'Because,' he replied, 'you women grumble so much, and show ingratitude to your husbands! Even if the poor fellows spent all their lives doing good things for you, you have only to be upset at the least thing and you will say, 'I have never received any good from you!' (Bukhari 1.28, recorded by Ibn Abbas - who was present on that occasion as a child). At that the women began vigorously to pull off their rings and ear-rings, and throw them into Bilal's cloth."
Quran 33.35: “Surely the men who submit and women who submit, and the believing men and the believing women, and the obeying men and the obeying women, and the truthful men and truthful women, and the patient men and patient women, and the humble men and humble women, and the charitable men and the charitable women, and fasting men and fasting women, and the men who guard their chastity and the women who guard, and the men who remember Allah and women who remember – Allah has prepared for them forgiveness and mighty reward.” --- EQUALITY
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:28 pm
by ModerateMuslim
"ITS MEANING IS NOT LITERAL"
^thats 'context' according to this feminist hack (she got it from a sufi/shia site, btw)
to negate the words of allah swt or the prophets (saw) is a form of disbelief
p.s. feminist hack, bring the commentary of the likes ibn hajar and al-nawawi on this particular hadeeth, not some mushrik sufi, for credibility
p.s.s. women are inferior to men in intelligence, islam AND nature testify to this fact.
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:13 pm
by Addoow
Somali-Star wrote:"ITS MEANING IS NOT LITERAL"
^thats 'context' according to this feminist hack (she got it from a sufi/shia site, btw)
to negate the words of allah swt or the prophets (saw) is a form of disbelief
p.s. feminist hack, bring the commentary of the likes ibn hajar and al-nawawi on this particular hadeeth, not some mushrik sufi, for credibility
p.s.s. women are inferior to men in intelligence, islam AND nature testify to this fact.
Stop using islam,you repressed little fag and leave women alone!
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:15 pm
by gedo_gurl
Re: Who runs Islamqa.com?
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:44 pm
by grandpakhalif
istaqhfurallah somali star men and women are equal they just have different roles
