Mujahid Fuad exposes BBC / VOA murtads

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

Abdisamad, adiga sxb xoolo baa tahay. Si kastaan kula hadlay, lakiin xoolo lalama hadli karo. I thought u were just a maskiin who was misinformed at first, lakiin you make a conscientious effort to persist in your ignorance and xoolonimo. I'm afraid in Xamar dhexdiisa sida neef camal laguu qooraci doono markii laguugu shaqeysto ka bacdi. Sida dabeesha camal baa laguu wadaa, and you have no idea what you're talking about or what the reality on the ground is. The situation in Somalia ain't some video game sxb, and it's not a cartoon like the gun-toting figure in your avatar either. Those are real lives those goons are playing with, and when I call them Khawaarij, it's cuz they are Khawaarij and the scholars have preceded me in labeling them as such.

Wax faa'ido ah kaama sugaayi cuz u've shown when being xoolo is an option, you'll take it everytime. Adiga oo kale waxaad ku fiicantahay inaad is qarxisid, ileen you're a mindless trigger-happy maniac who not only doesn't understand, but refuses to understand.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

This is old news. Murtad Fuad( Allah's curse upon him)believes that all are murtadiin except faroole ,abdullahi yusuf and barre hiraale.To him they are just warlords.

[abdisamad3]

if shabaab are khawariij so every warlord and any one who support the filthy warlords..iam not some xoolo or doqon..and I know the difference between reality and fantasy...shabaab controlled areas are peacefull no thiefs no isbaaro no kafir intervention (UN).people are gettin forward with their lives..you keep speaking of some fake scholars.who label shabaab as khawariij..now if these fake imaams/sheikhs you speaking of are who they are saying they are..where were they in the last 17-18 years why didnt they never condem or said anything about the warlords who was looting the Somali-nation..where are they when the amisom is bomboarding the muqdisho civilians commiting war crime's why dont they speak up or condem their actions..and why are they always having meetings in some foreign land while having lavish dinner throwing around some fake fatwa againste the shabaab..why didnt they condem or speak againste the invasion of Somali soil by the filthy xabashi's..and why do they never speak or stand againste the injustice done to the muslim ummah by the kafirs around the world..when these men do this and bring a real salution that can save this ummah then I will believe them..but as long as they are backing up a bunch of illiterate warlords like the TFG and condeming the shabaab then its clear they are nothing but scholars for hire..

[LobsterUnit]

@Abdisamad, Yungfresh and his "scholars" are probably those who believed Abdullahi was a legitimate ruler and that the resistance to the Ethiopian occupation was a fitna. So don't waste time on petty arguments as the truth is clear from falsehood just as light is from darkness.

@Hutuking, why lie all the time?

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

^those who do not believe that shabab are khawarij & have left islam are from them.

[Cirwaaq]

The Children being kidnaped by these khawarij peodophiles should be in school. 20 years of hell has shown the mentality of all those born within that period. 20years from now the 9 and 10year old boys in the ranks will have no other option but to continue with this madness. They are being educated in art of death from as young as 9, what do you expect from them in 20 years time? while men their age have acquired wealth and knowledge they will be carrying anti-aircraft guns. They will have one skill and that is to take what they want or think they need by FORCE.

The seeds planted in the current generation will tommorow produce the fruits of their khawarij farmers. Khawarij have declared they will keep going as far as Alska. These headless chickens are smearing blood across their path without a specific objective that anyone can identify with. There is noone weaker then they are from a global perspective and they will be starved out of existance. The only problem is as they are isolated within the borders of southern somalia they will escalate their prasitic vampirism on the southern population. Those who support them are either ignorant or have confidence that khawarij containment in the south is guarenteed and the losses will only be incurred by the southern population.

Save the children Save the future...

[AbdiWahab252]

Stunning revaluation from the an alcoholic, John who used to cruise Stockholm's streets for hookers

[Twisted_Logic]

Yung,

Just give me abdisamad's IP address and I will give him a very personal final solution. Seriously. SNET has become the save haven for Al Qaida supporters and the Moderators and Admins have made a conscious decision to give these social rejects and anarchists a platform to propagate and further their destructive ideology. Few weeks ago, grandpakhalif was supporting Barre Hiraale and today after chitchatting with abdisamad and somali-star he is even more zealous and fanatical in his support for terrorism than those two Osama Bin Laden believers.

It is high time something is done about this phenomena. The SNET Administration shares full responsibility for any action that might result from the behavior of this terrorist sympathizers.

[abdalla11]

Grandpa iyo Abdisamad ka hara this somalistar, this guy is sick and makes his effort to slander scholars and their status.

Abdisamad you were saying where were th scholars for the last 20 years and why didn't they do anything about the situation of the Ummah. here is a lecture of uthaymeen talking about how to create unity. Adiga i've asked you many times give me one lecture made by the leaders of al-shabaab where they are teaching the people? If you guys want i can provide you with numerous fatwa's that are against the shabaab and their actions, waa hadii aad runta rabtiin.

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Somalistar also speaks ill of this shaykh



And this one

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I can go on and on, the scholars he slanders are numerous
those three only were teaching for 60 years or more, that's 180 years of dacwah combined and all of the sudden a 20 years old tries to demean them waxaas ma caqli baa? a 20 years old speaking ill about men that are older than his father and perhaps his grandfather? These guys were reaching the capacity of scholars before any of us were born. Marka culimada yaa loo gafin

[abdisamad3]

let me see abdallah..your saying we shouldnt question older people..becouse they just happen to be older then us.?
and again I ask you where was this sheikh's when cabdullahi yusuf caydiid and all the warlords where raping the somali-nation..why didnt they condem or pas one single fatwa? where dont they condem the ethiopians intervention in Somalia.why dont they go againste the americans who are arming the Somali warlords..why dont they pass a fatwa againste groups like the bidca wal shirk group who are armed and formed by the ethiopian enemy..you call these culama?..well they are your culama and not mine.

[grandpakhalif]

lol Sheikh Xassan Xusseyn who showered his praises upon Bin Laden and said Allah SWT Sent him to help the Ummah? If that's the kind of Sheikhs you look up to, then your problem is more serious than just supporting Al-Shabaab.

That's what the Americans made you believe

[Koronto60]

let me see abdallah..your saying we shouldnt question older people..becouse they just happen to be older then us.?
and again I ask you where was this sheikh's when cabdullahi yusuf caydiid and all the warlords where raping the somali-nation..why didnt they condem or pas one single fatwa? where dont they condem the ethiopians intervention in Somalia.why dont they go againste the americans who are arming the Somali warlords..why dont they pass a fatwa againste groups like the bidca wal shirk group who are armed and formed by the ethiopian enemy..you call these culama?..well they are your culama and not mine.

That's not what he said. He said 20 year olds who never bothered to seek Islamic knowledge, never engaged in da'wah, never studied proper Islamic tawheed have no business making fun of or belitting knowledgeable scholars like Bin Baaz, Uthaymeen, Fawzan, etc. Considering that these 'uluma have spent most of their lives either teaching or learning the religion, while someone like you & somali-star never did.

And FYI, there have been numerous 'uluma who have condemned the warlords you mention, both within the country and outside, condemned Ethiopia's invasion, etc. There were many mu'tamars and lectures about qabyaalad, social injustice, warlordism, seeking Ethiopian help to further personal interests, etc. Maybe you slept through them? Most notably was Sh. Boqolsoon who never hid his disdain for Caydiid and ultimately lost his life because of it as some claim.

We all want Shari'ah, but Alshabaab are the last people to be claiming to be followers of it. Suicide bombing Muslims? Practicing half-assed huduud punishments? Lying to the masses by claiming to liberate far off Muslim lands like Palestine & Chechnya? Which Islam permits these things? Calling everyone who disagrees with their madness murtads including Sh. Umal most recently? They can lie to themselves, but they can't lie to the people. Sad thing is they think they're the first group to be doing this, but this shit has been done countless other times all over the world and they all ceased to exist at the end.

[abdalla11]

let me see abdallah..your saying we shouldnt question older people..becouse they just happen to be older then us.?
and again I ask you where was this sheikh's when cabdullahi yusuf caydiid and all the warlords where raping the somali-nation..why didnt they condem or pas one single fatwa? where dont they condem the ethiopians intervention in Somalia.why dont they go againste the americans who are arming the Somali warlords..why dont they pass a fatwa againste groups like the bidca wal shirk group who are armed and formed by the ethiopian enemy..you call these culama?..well they are your culama and not mine.

I'm not saying we shouldn't question those men, they are men like you and me, some times they are right and some times they error. Lakiin it doesn't fit a 20 year old to belittle them or mick them and we should distance ourselves from those kids.

As for the culama not condemning the warlords and the civil war, are you suggesting they were happy with that? sxb how many times did the ulama talked about the right of muslims and their duties? how many times did they talked about the danger of qabyaalad. It's not their nature to mention names lakiin just like the prophet they mentioned the acts and that's more important than saying hebel iyo hebel waa nin xun.

How many books and how many lectures did they give about bidcah and shirk? 90% of their time goes to teaching people about bidcah and shirk. Again give me one lecture made by al-shabaab teaching the people about their deen. Dadka wax ma baraan.

besides our common sence tells us not to pick a fight against a much stronger force. the maxakiim and al-shabaab were both wrong in picking a fight with stronger force. Why firing from neighbourhoods and when the amxaar come flee the scene? sxb be rational and not emotional.

"Allah will send the Messiah, son of Maryam, and he will descend to the white minaret in the East of Damascus, wearing two garments dyed with saffron, placing his hands on the wings of two angels. When he lowers his head, beads of perspiration will fall from it, and when he raises his head, beads like pearls will scatter from it. Every Kaffir (unbeliever) who smells the fragrance (of his breath) will die, and his breath will reach as far as he can see. He will search for the Dajjal until he finds him at the gate of Ludd where he will kill him. Then a group of people whom Allah has protected will come to Isa (as), son of Maryam, and he will wipe the traces of hardship from their faces and tell them of their place in Paradise. At that point, Allah will reveal to Isa (as): 'I have brought forth some of My servants whom no-one will be able to fight. Take my servants safely to Al-Tur.'"(Muslim)

This hadeeth tells us not to fight against a stronger force! It can't get any clearer and ciisa AS is far from a coward yet he doesn't fight them.


Granpakhaliif,
Sh xasaan use to be one of sh umals students, after sh xasaan openly supported al-shabaab he isn't allowed to enter the mosque of his teacher!

[AMAT-ALLAH]

Yung,

Just give me abdisamad's IP address and I will give him a very personal final solution. Seriously. SNET has become the save haven for Al Qaida supporters and the Moderators and Admins have made a conscious decision to give these social rejects and anarchists a platform to propagate and further their destructive ideology. Few weeks ago, grandpakhalif was supporting Barre Hiraale and today after chitchatting with abdisamad and somali-star he is even more zealous and fanatical in his support for terrorism than those two Osama Bin Laden believers.

It is high time something is done about this phenomena. The SNET Administration shares full responsibility for any action that might result from the behavior of this terrorist sympathizers.

I second that. Ive seen too many posters here that are increasingly becoming proselytize by those persistant posters. I think consistancy here in Somalinet is a rare and attractive commodity, and sadly the wrong folk are the ones monopolyising it here. I can completely see how easy it can be to lull these really young and impressionable men. Somalinet and all involved in the administration of this website are definitly responsible for this kind of behaviour, however i wouldnt know how retrieving someones IP would be a source for solution?...

A very worried sister....

[Twisted_Logic]

Yung,

Just give me abdisamad's IP address and I will give him a very personal final solution. Seriously. SNET has become the save haven for Al Qaida supporters and the Moderators and Admins have made a conscious decision to give these social rejects and anarchists a platform to propagate and further their destructive ideology. Few weeks ago, grandpakhalif was supporting Barre Hiraale and today after chitchatting with abdisamad and somali-star he is even more zealous and fanatical in his support for terrorism than those two Osama Bin Laden believers.

It is high time something is done about this phenomena. The SNET Administration shares full responsibility for any action that might result from the behavior of this terrorist sympathizers.

I second that. Ive seen too many posters here that are increasingly becoming proselytize by those persistant posters. I think consistancy here in Somalinet is a rare and attractive commodity, and sadly the wrong folk are the ones monopolyising it here. I can completely see how easy it can be to lull these really young and impressionable men. Somalinet and all involved in the administration of this website are definitly responsible for this kind of behaviour, however i wouldnt know how retrieving someones IP would be a source for solution?...

A very worried sister....

It is. Just past it to the concerned authorities both to the FBI and his home country's Law Enforcement Agencies