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^^So Alqaeda is bombing Alshabab leaderS? Or Alshabab is bombing their own leaders? Or Xi? Make up your mind, nacasyahow.

ps. If this attack has anything to do with XI, then it is most likely the work of the the Ahmad Madobe, which is not really part of the XI anymore, but has some sympathisers within XI.

This attack has Alshabaab written all over it, wouldn't really surprise me if its them going after each other.

Shit usually has a funny way of coming back to bite you in the ass when you least expect it.

Blowing up misaajids...now this is just sad

Allah ha u naxriisto waxii dhimtay

TW

Sxb I'm not defending the Shaamo attack or any other attack here, Prof.Cadow was one of my favourite Political personalities in Somalia.It was a tragedy of immense proportion.But there is space for considerable doubt in many minds after the emotion dissolved as to who really set those bombs off.The man who was designated as the bomber was later dismissed by close freinds and Family as a victim.So what was the bomb and were there any bombers/bomber? it remains unanswered.

Al-shabab very much began local and there links with Terrorist with Terror networks have matured over that period, although the ideology and certain figures have been affliated with Alqeada before.Nevertheless there is no doubt Al-shabab has now become an Al-Qeada franshise, still the majortiy of there attacks including suicide attacks have largely been directed at Goverment and affiliate entities.Obviously we cant overlook there mamoth abuse of the public by enforcing there foreign ideology.

The whole point of this is Shabaab despite there reign of Terror are not known to be in this business of Mosque bombings, and unless we can prove this it remains so.Specifically in Somalia where religious sectarianism does not involve this form of warfare.This is a new addition to the conflict, whether its apart of the trajectory of the Somali conflict remains to be seen.Al-shabab despite there limitations i think would be wary of attacks on schools or mosques, its simplistic to label them as that gullible to be inviting there own demise.

I don`t care whoever al Shabab,TFG,xisbul sheydaan planned or killed in this attack,except the innocent civillians died there- Allaha u naxariisto( innocent civ). kuwa kalena intey ummada ka gooyeen Allaha ka gooyo. Aamiin.

Really,shabab had tested and witnessed how it look like the real hell.

BlackVelvet wrote:

*Nobleman* wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8655912.stm

The blasts happened while people were sitting inside Abdala Shideye mosque, waiting for noon prayers. Most of those killed and wounded were worshippers," local businessman Ahmed Abdulle told the BBC

Illahaay ha uu naxariisto, good way to go though.


KEEP THE POLITICS OUT OF THIS THREAD

The best laid plans of mice and men...

That quote was in my head all day...get out of my head woman!

AUN those who have passed away, sabr iyo iimaan to their families.

r.i.p

hanqadh wrote:TW

Sxb I'm not defending the Shaamo attack or any other attack here, Prof.Cadow was one of my favourite Political personalities in Somalia.It was a tragedy of immense proportion.But there is space for considerable doubt in many minds after the emotion dissolved as to who really set those bombs off.The man who was designated as the bomber was later dismissed by close freinds and Family as a victim.So what was the bomb and were there any bombers/bomber? it remains unanswered.

Al-shabab very much began local and there links with Terrorist with Terror networks have matured over that period, although the ideology and certain figures have been affliated with Alqeada before.Nevertheless there is no doubt Al-shabab has now become an Al-Qeada franshise, still the majortiy of there attacks including suicide attacks have largely been directed at Goverment and affiliate entities.Obviously we cant overlook there mamoth abuse of the public by enforcing there foreign ideology.

The whole point of this is Shabaab despite there reign of Terror are not known to be in this business of Mosque bombings, and unless we can prove this it remains so.Specifically in Somalia where religious sectarianism does not involve this form of warfare.This is a new addition to the conflict, whether its apart of the trajectory of the Somali conflict remains to be seen.Al-shabab despite there limitations i think would be wary of attacks on schools or mosques, its simplistic to label them as that gullible to be inviting there own demise.

The views of the guy's family don't really count. The family is as much a victim as the ones that were brutally taken away that painful day. The point is that the suicide bomber left Denmark, went to Mogadishu and was found to be in that very same hotel. One can slant and twist it, but it simple really. Furthermore, there survivors that made it out alive on that day and their statements makes it clear that there was a suicide bomb. There is no doubt that the suicide bomber belonged to Al Shabab. They are the only ones that carry out suicide bombs. And Yes, the Hotel Shamo bombing was a government target for Al Shabab. Many government officials died in that attack.

I refuse to believe that Al Shabab has no-go areas when it comes to brutality and this is exactly why your argument is flawed. The suicide bombings in Somaliland and Puntland work against your presumptions. Al Shabab is limited only by its capabilities and when it has the means will carry out attacks that are more vicious and brutal than the ones they have carried so far. Instead of saying, " Al Shabab can't do this" or " Al Shabab is not this brutal" it would help to speak out against them. As I said, Al Shabab is affiliated with an International terrorist fraternity that has carried out similarly vicious attacks. Al Shabab is a cheap imitation of the Iraqi and Afghani militants and will carry out attacks simply to impress their Arab handlers

I will support anything that opposes Shabab till there eradicated but my argument is, It doesnt give anyone a reason to condone an attack on a mosque even if its Al-shabab controlled, at the end of the day its a mosque.Although its hard to do, trying to put some objectivity on the issue of Shabab and there attacks and how that relates to there behavioural and ideological trend through out the conflict was what i was trying to bring out when questioning the Shaamo attacks.We cant blindly label anyone and anything because of pre-conceived assumptions without careful consideration.

hanqadh wrote:I will support anything that opposes Shabab till there eradicated but my argument is, It doesnt give anyone a reason to condone an attack on a mosque even if its Al-shabab controlled, at the end of the day its a mosque.Although its hard to do, trying to put some objectivity on the issue of Shabab and there attacks and how that relates to there behavioural and ideological trend through out the conflict was what i was trying to bring out when questioning the Shaamo attacks.We cant blindly label anyone and anything because of pre-conceived assumptions without careful consideration.

I understand where you are coming from, but, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck. Only One group in Somalia is known for suicide bombings and only one group has so far targeted mosques. Al Shabab has planted bombs in mosques in Somaliland, actually fought within a mosque few weeks back near Afgoi and routinely assassinates people as they leave the mosque. If they are capable of assassinating people as they leave the masjid, what is stopping them from attacking them within the masjid?

Al Shabab is part of an International fraternity of terrorists and as such will copy and paste the vicious attacks of its brethren in arms into Somalia. If you pay attention to what Al Qaida is doing in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, it is only a matter of time before these destructive practices are sent to Somalia. So far we have suicide bombings in hotels, University graduations, market-places and bombings of mosques. The future is very bleak for Somalia.

The future is indeed bleak with an incompetent Goverment and a rutheless terrorist network both foreign pawns.

Were pretty much on the same page...up:

The only sad part is that the Jaberti Rasputin got a way

AbdiWahab252 wrote:The only sad part is that the Jaberti Rasputin got a way

But he is seriously injured

Galia,

Severely injured ? Even better, I hope he rots in pain