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bareento wrote:Com on if the horn is so good that people cross huge deserts to come and settle, why bantus didnt come?
Or they did come and and their contribution to the horn gene pool is down played!

Probably there were no gene inflow from arabia or egypt!
Or if it arab/egypt inflow existed, bantu inflow existed too.

There is no geographical barriers between the horn and Bantu proper lands; wat witheld bantus from coming?

B.

lol as confusing as it is, seems the whole world came from us and not otherway around in my case.

I couldn't help but reply with all this amateurism, uneducated people. It's not confusing at all, it's very simple, read this..Here are the different sub-clades:

E1b1b1a1b


E1b1b1a1b V32
The E1b1b1a1b (V32) subclade is a descendant of E1b1b1a1 (V12). E1b1b1a1b/V32 is highest in Somalia (47-75%), Sudan (52%) and Ethiopia (40%). All these chromosomes detected to date fall into the East African M78 g microsatellite cluster, which is associated with Cushitic (Afro-Asiatic) language groups in Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya. There is some notion that the Great Rift Valley acted as a barrier to isolate language and genetic groups in this region. This subclade is abundant in Somalia, although the STR diversity is rather low. This data would suggest that the E1b1b1a1b/V32 Somali population was shaped by a founder effect, somewhat recently. The E1b1b1a1b/V32 was not found in Turkish population with M78 g microsatellite cluster, indicating that there is not a perfect correspondence between the M78 g microsatellite cluster and the E1b1b1a1b/V32 subclade. The g cluster is characterized by a short and unique DYS19 allele (11 repeats), a situation in which it acts almost as a unique event polymorphism like a SNP. The estimates for the TMRCA of this subclade are approximately 4-8kya.

E1b1b1a2


E1b1b1a2 V13
E1b1b1a2 (V13) is highest in the Balkan Peninsula (Albania 32%, Greece 18-45%) and diminishes from here northward. It overlaps with the previously identified E1b1b1a M78 a cluster, and makes up the majority of E chromosome types in Europe. This cluster was found primarily in Europe and to a lesser extent the Near East (e.g. 5% Turkey). It is rarely found outside of Europe.

E1b1b1a1*


E1b1b1a1* V12
E1b1b1a1* (V12) shows the highest frequency in Northeast Africa (e.g. up to 44% in South Egypt and 19% in Sudan). It may have migrated from Egypt in the North, south to Sudan along the Nile River Valley. It is not present at levels >5% elsewhere, except ~6% in Basques from France. TMRCA estimates an origin at 14-15kya.



Good luck with grasping this stuff

bareento wrote:Com on if the horn is so good that people cross huge deserts to come and settle, why bantus didnt come?
Or they did come and and their contribution to the horn gene pool is down played!

Probably there were no gene inflow from arabia or egypt!
Or if it arab/egypt inflow existed, bantu inflow existed too.

There is no geographical barriers between the horn and Bantu proper lands; wat witheld bantus from coming?

B.

Nothing, but don't forget that the Bantu expansion didn't happen that long ago. The Bantu in west Africa discovered iron working around 1000 BCE in west Africa, and spread all through Africa over the ensuing centuries, reaching the Kenyan highlands around the year 200 BCE.

The Bantu expansion DID spread into Somalia in the first few centuries CE, but ran head first into the rapidly expanding Kushite pastoral iron age expansion. Waves of Kushitic pastoralists pushed the Bantu settlers out of southern Somalia, and today only the Bajuni remain, a remnant of what was once a kingdom called "Shungwaya".

lol finally dawa wo is elin wayey.

this punch of maps doesnt make sense to uneduated people like me.

so go ahead and explain again Haplogroup E1b1b1(M35).

i just want to know , the unique somali one only.

You went the el cheapo way with genographic, as they are too lazy to tell you anything besides prehistoric linages.
If you want to get more value from your dollar go to ysearch.org and ‘search by haplotype’ and check your closest matches, with this simple method you can find out your lineages past the prehistoric stuff geno gave you.

http://www.ysearch.org/search_search.as ... entry=true

Musse that issaq guy is an expert on DNA, i mean dawwa

lol Nobleman.

dawa i dont want to compare with any one.
i just want to understand my east african unique of Eb3 , that's all.

Could someone explain how Bantus ended up in Papua New Guinea?

hyperactive wrote:i dont want to compare with any one.
i just want to understand my east african unique of Eb3 , that's all.

Where does it say you have to compare to anyone, read it my goodnes.. it is random query in a huge database. Nothing gets stored. Same shit like google.
If you are really hardcore you would compare your values to these 147 Somalis:

http://download.journals.elsevierhealth ... 000791.pdf

anilweyne wrote:Could someone explain how Bantus ended up in Papua New Guinea?

Stupid..stupid…

This place is so unintellectual

Dude, get off your high horse, i was addressing previous posters regarding bantu expansion.

i didnt even clicked and i dont mind publishing it, many people from this side already have my kit code they already checked and i dont care if they do the job for me!!
i already clicked the : contribute your result.

this thing is just rib off. they give you no detaild. just bunch of broud infos, no specific things!!!

hyperactive wrote:i didnt even clicked and i dont mind publishing it, many people from this side all ready have my kid cose they already checked and i dont care if they do the job for me!!
i already clicked the : contribute your result.

this thing is just rib off. they give you no detaild. just bunch of broud infos, no specific things!!!

...And with that An Idiot thinks he's "intellectual" by surfing day in day out these websites multiple times meanwhile cramming/memorizing their bogus infos.
By the way I can teach a 9year old kid how to be "intellectual" by showing him the DNA-maps posted by our Einstein Dawwa.

@ hyper, It is actually very detailed, you just don’t know how to process your data.

@ anilweyne, Confusing Melanesians for Bantus is pretty stupid, sorry dude. They have been there for a very long time even before Europe or the Americas were populated by modern humans, this is just general knowledge everyone should know. If you consider peer-reviewed academic journals to be ''bogus infos'', well so be it.

I’m off now.

Most of you are going to M78 or M86, but me and Hyper stop at M35, so do you have more info about M35 and not M78?
Abdihalim here is my complete repeats. do you take the test, or you study in DNA, it looks like you interested in them.
Tandem Repeats

DYS19 ---11 repeats
DYS392 ---12 repeats
DYS 390 --24 repeats
DYS388----12 repeats
DYS389-2-- 18 repeats
DYS389-1---13 repeats
DYS385a----16 repeats
DYS 385b ---18 repeats
DYS 393 ---13 repeats
DYS 391---- 10 repeats
DYS 439-----11 repeats
DYS 426-----11 repeats