Historic Sketch of Sultan Madar Sultan Xirsi

[GENERAL_SNM]

GeneralSNM here is some facts for you.

Fact H.Y took Oog from dhullos
Daroor from Ogaden
Gaashaamo from Ogaden again
Northern Awaare from Ogaden again
Northern Danood from Ogaden again
Ceerigaabo took over it fully from Dhullos & Wasakhgalis and control it present day since - 1990's walking history deeh


Etc i could go and on of the countless land we took from the daroods and your talking about three places.

I have never lost land to Darods, have you?
Not even with Afweyne's army they couldn't take an inch from us. We are greedy folks, you should know.

Ps, Emperor has the right to claim any Isaaq qabil and if you wont let him use HY historical figures, I will accept him as not just a HJ but he can claim the great reer dahir history.The sharp front of the Isaaq spear.

[hargaysaay]

siciid i know the fact that daroor was taken by hy from Og
but to say northern n awaare is funny chil down man

[GENERAL_SNM]

siciid i know the fact that daroor was taken by y from Og
but to say northern n awaare is funny chil down man

War HY tuck the moon.

Hunguriga HY ma taqaanid, waa reer abtigay, I know them well.

[hargaysaay]

all in all agoogane was guul isaaq u soo hoyatay no mater who fought it

[Siciid85]

GeneralSNM, afweyn didn't want the deserts of baladhiig he wanted the rich reservoir range areas of sanaag mainly settled by Muse Ismaaciil that is why he armed the dhullos & wasakhgalis to take over the range reservoirs, but alhamdullilah Muse Ismaaciil & Sacad Yoonis stood up to them and chased them away from the whole sanaag a history that won't be forgotten.


PS as for emperior anigu uma dhidiin inu cisticmaalo H.Y history when he is with the daroods laakinse waxan ku iri uun recognise who had most of the share in that battle and masterminded it laakinse he wants to inject habar awal to the place.

[hargaysaay]

GENERAL_SNM, H.Y gained double the size of land in Hawdka & Eastern Somaliland so if it comes to land the 1's who took most lands from the darood are non other then H.Y & C.G, we know the only clans Ina maxamed abdalle the dervish leader feared was non other then H.Y always praising them in poems and sending letters.

The difference between HY and HJ is that we play for keeps. You tell me if you still own Danood or dallo? We still own Caynaba/Garadag/Balidhiig, which we named after the blood of the dervish.

Siciid, emperor's point is that HJ at that time were a powerhouse in that region, nothing could be done without HJ support. The closest Isaaq's to the Dervish were HJ and some HY. What the fock is cidagalle doing in Buhoodle?

it says preparatiopns happened areas between daror and buhoodle of course we have nothing to do with buhoodle but he have some thing to do with daroor

[Siciid85]

siciid i know the fact that daroor was taken by hy from Og
but to say northern n awaare is funny chil down man

Are you feeling sorry for the cagdheers again?

[hargaysaay]

I am feeling sorry for my ass, you said northern awaare was taken by HY , it is like me saying gaashaamo was taken by cidagale ,

[Siciid85]

Hargaysaay H.Y & Cidagalle are the samething so it won't make a difference your history is my history and my history is your history.

[GENERAL_SNM]

GeneralSNM, afweyn didn't want the deserts of baladhiig he wanted the rich reservoir range areas of sanaag mainly settled by Muse Ismaaciil that is why he armed the dhullos & wasakhgalis to take over the range reservoirs, but alhamdullilah Muse Ismaaciil & Sacad Yoonis stood up to them and chased them away from the whole sanaag a history that won't be forgotten.


PS as for emperior anigu uma dhidiin inu cisticmaalo H.Y history when he is with the daroods laakinse waxan ku iri uun recognise who had most of the share in that battle and masterminded it laakinse he wants to inject habar awal to the place.

I'm talking to a kid. War ninyo overrunning a few defeated Dhullo's and the fishheads with the full support of the SNM is not a an achievement. However repelling the Dhullo's who had the support of the SNA is an achievement worth many victory gabays. In 1983 the SNA was powerfull run by a Dhullo who was planning to settle scores, in 90's the SNA was gone how can you compare the two.

[Siciid85]

GeneralSNM, how about a person who fought the SNA+ WSLF , ever heard of dagaalaadii Gaashaamo iyo sirow? where the ogadens-WSLF at that time with the backing of the SNA were on a mission to try and take over their lost lands but failed miserably, adna your talking about having borders skirmishes with dhullos, while this was a full out war which lasted years and many lost their lifes.



As for H.Y having SNM backing them when they took over Erigavo and Sanaag, well most of those who invaded Erigavo and were attacking the dhullos & warsanglis were H.Y , what was your ass doing? trying to negotiate with dhullos somaha? you need to hit some books kid you have no idea.

[hargaysaay]

the fiercest clan based wars happened between isaaq and darod subclans were the following

1983 HY and OG
1985 AGAIN hy and OG
1984 CIDAGALE AND OG(BEGUN AFTER THE ASSASINATION OF MOHAMED MOOGE)
1986 AGAIN IDAGALE AND OG
1983 hj and dhulos

[Siciid85]

hargaysaay, spot on Siad Barre knew in order to break the spirits of the Isaaq & SNM he needed to arm the ogadens to commit genocide against the garhajis and break the backbone of the struggle but luckily his footsoldiers miserably failed to break the spirits.

[hargaysaay]

hargaysaay, spot on Siad Barre knew in order to break the spirits of the Isaaq & SNM he needed to arm the ogadens to commit genocide against the garhajis and break the backbone of the struggle.

you know those wars were called dagaaladii dhabarka becouse they were from the back

they were huge wars 1000s died in those wars walaahi

[Siciid85]

Which is why i said it was a organized genocide scheme( by siad bare) but failed miserably, but from what i heard the sub clan that most suffered were baha dhamaal - cidagalle but they fought bravely and continuesly until they drove away the enemey.