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Gogo >>I don’t hate all non-Muslims simply because they are not all bad people, the point was how can a Muslim love a non-believer when they don’t acknowledge Allah (caza wajal) and our beloved prophet Mohamed (may Allah’s peace n blessing be upon him). Think about it !! can u have love for a kafir and the love of Allah in the same heart ?? Confused Confused Confused
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"Anyone who disbelieved prophet Muhammad (SAW) is a disbeliever, hence Yahuud and Nasara are definitely disbelievers, however, I am not sure if this Ayah was for a specific reason or "Auliya" means protectors, supporters or friends, I leave that for those whose knowledge permits them to indulge in the translation and translietration of the matter".


---------->Another great brilliant post. Let me tell you this way, Lady Luggoyo. ANYONE WHO DISBELIEVES IN ALLAH, and mark my words, ALLAH, (Do you understand de word Allah?) IS A DISBELIEVER, not someone who doesn't believe in Muhammad. For Christ's sake! Muhammad is not GOD!

I don't believe in Muhammad. I'm not a Muhammadist. I don't believe MUHAMMAD IS ALLAH or any kind of God. I don't follow Muhammad or submit under him. If that was the case, I would follow Allah and would be under His submission, not Muhammad's. Muhammad is not an end in himself, he's a link between a Muslim and Allah, a bridge, a wise man if you want. And, according with YOUR religion, he's not a God, so if you don't believe in him, no problem. (That's the reason hadiths musn't be read as holy words, unlike Al Quran. You can read hadiths, but hadiths are the words of a man, not the words inspired by Allah, as every muslim should know).

Jews and Christians are people FROM THE HOLY BOOK. And the Holy Book includes the Torah, The Bible and Al Quran, Al Quran being the seal of the books and Muhammad being the seal of the prophets.

Luggoyo and Beards: you're plainly a couple of ignorants even in your own religion... And you dare to call people kuffirs...
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[quote="SoMaLiSiZz"]Gogo >>I don’t hate all non-Muslims simply because they are not all bad people, the point was how can a Muslim love a non-believer when they don’t acknowledge Allah (caza wajal) and our beloved prophet Mohamed (may Allah’s peace n blessing be upon him). Think about it !! can u have love for a kafir and the love of Allah in the same heart ?? Confused Confused Confused[/quote]

No one can control whom they love sis, if ur heart falls for someone who is a non believer well there isnt much you can do about it. You can try to convince him/her about your religion and talk them through it. U never know, u might gain a big ajar from showing that person the lime light. If they choose not to its up to you then to either continue or halt it.

The prophet (csw) was married to Maria Al-Qobtiya and the reason behind him doing that was to show a Muslim man can marry a non Muslim.
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Kamal,

As usual you are teaching your sleazy version of Islam but the good thing is, your cover was blown long time ago, you can't lament about wishing to learn ISlam, everyone in this forum knows who you really are, an hairy arsed Spaniard whose main purpose in life is to fart around and regurgitate the same fukking senseless postings you started the day you joined S-net. Your sh!t ain't worth nothing you filthy worthless piece of sh!t. We managed to expose your tired rhetorics and no one is interested to read your worthless two pesos, so get out and stay out, maggot.
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Gogarad

Ee islaanyahay daacufta weyn lihi maxaad ii maageysaa inaan kugu ruquuso wadigii iiga dhaartaye?

Have we got something wrong here? Was Soamlizz testing the waters? perhaps she has fallen in love with a non-Muslim and wanted to know how people will react to it?

If so Kiddo go for it!
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"Kamal,

As usual you are teaching your sleazy version of Islam but the good thing is, your cover was blown long time ago, you can't lament about wishing to learn ISlam, everyone in this forum knows who you really are, an hairy arsed Spaniard whose main purpose in life is to fart around and regurgitate the same fukking senseless postings you started the day you joined S-net. Your sh!t ain't worth nothing you filthy worthless piece of sh!t. We managed to expose your tired rhetorics and no one is interested to read your worthless two pesos, so get out and stay out, maggot."




-------------->You didn't asked to my question: Who is a disbeliever, that one who believes in Allah or the one who believes in Muhammad.

--------------->Do Christians and Jews are not people from the book? Are the disbelievers?


And for your info, I'm not interested in Islam anymore. I said it sometime ago. I love my life of sex, rock and roll and some beers and all those material things you hate so much. I love my freedom. But I respect my muslim friends in real life and want to learn from them. I know very good you have nothing to teach me.
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[quote="Kamal35"]"


---------->Another great brilliant post. Let me tell you this way, Lady Luggoyo. ANYONE WHO DISBELIEVES IN ALLAH, and mark my words, ALLAH, (Do you understand de word Allah?) IS A DISBELIEVER, not someone who doesn't believe in Muhammad. For Christ's sake! Muhammad is not GOD!

I don't believe in Muhammad. I'm not a Muhammadist. I don't believe MUHAMMAD IS ALLAH or any kind of God. I don't follow Muhammad or submit under him. If that was the case, I would follow Allah and would be under His submission, not Muhammad's. Muhammad is not an end in himself, he's a link between a Muslim and Allah, a bridge, a wise man if you want. And, according with YOUR religion, he's not a God, so if you don't believe in him, no problem. (That's the reason hadiths musn't be read as holy words, unlike Al Quran. You can read hadiths, but hadiths are the words of a man, not the words inspired by Allah, as every muslim should know).

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for your info ; Allah caza wajal has said in the quran al kareem

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"...And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad (sallallaahu`alaihiwasallam) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it) , and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is severe in punishment." [Qur'ân 59:7]

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"And obey Allah and the Messenger, that ye may obtain mercy." [Qur'ân 3:132]

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how can u say that they hadeeth a mans words ?? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked


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[quote="Galol"]Gogarad

Ee islaanyahay daacufta weyn lihi maxaad ii maageysaa inaan kugu ruquuso wadigii iiga dhaartaye?

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Intan ku maago ayaan kab dacaan aah oo madhataay afka dhere kala dhici dona waliba.. Horta maxad igu dul merisaanisa sidi dayaradi xabashiida? orod oo mid aad ruqustiid ama aad camcamisiid milaha ka daydayo oo hawada iiga bax aniga..
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cubeed; I will insha*Allah write down the conditions regard socializing with non Muslims, I talk to many non-Muslims at that I am needed to and I invite them to Islam compare to non-Muslims we Muslims don’t wish that the all non-believers fall into hellfire but we rather wish that they get on our side and becalm Muslims or brothers and sisters. Smile



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Smelly Spaniard,

Are you trying to revive the dialogue I put a lid on? I am not interested in having any conversation with you or with any of your Kufaar, period. What part of that statement you don't get?

Shut the FUKK up you piece of worthless sh!t
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I believe a Muslim can love a kafiir, as well as vice versa. They can also have friendships with them. Axlaan said it best in her first post on the first page. In this day and age, it's nigh to impossible to NOT at least befriend a kafiir co worker or student. Doesn't mean you'll marry, but you cant avoid human interaction.
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"Smelly Spaniard,

Are you trying to revive the dialogue I put a lid on? I am not interested in having any conversation with you or with any of your Kufaar, period. What part of that statement you don't get?

Shut the FUKK up you piece of worthless sh!t"



------------>Same feeling here, so ignore me and I will ignore you. It will easy for you since you showed how ignorant you are.

End of conversation with you, bastard. From now on you will be completly ignored.


"how can u say that they hadeeth a mans words ?? Shocked Shocked Shocked "



----------->Somalisis: Could you elaborate, please? What's a hadith according to you? Holy words by the God Muhammad or what? As far as I know, Muhammad was a messenger, not a god himself. With this given condition, he spreaded a holy message (Al Quran). Some other words he said, advices, tips and many sentences for common life issues of his time are understood as hadiths. Mman's words, not words by Allah. Or hadiths are too words spreaded by Allah?

Enlight me at this point.

I never took hadiths so seriously because they were spoken and expressed in a time which is not mine (6th century) about issues of that time, not 21th century. Probably you sound so retarded because you're giving Al Quran and hadiths the same importance.

But next time, if you want to be consequent with your attitude, forget to say Salam and change it for HATE or Dead to Non-Muslims or War.

Salam doesn't fit with you,
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Somalisiz.....

dear sis, the *Quran* doesn’t aver that *non-Muslims* can’t be *Muslims* friends, nor does it prohibits *Muslims* 2 be forthcoming 2 *non-Muslims*. there r numerous *non- Muslims* who r virtuous friends of *Muslim* individuals and the *Muslim* community. there r also loads of courteous *Muslims* who beyond doubts and sincerely observe their faith and @ the same time they r very convival 2 many *non-Muslims*…. *Islam* edify us that we should be forthcoming 2 all people… *Islam* also instruct us that we should negotiate even with our enemies with justice and fairness.... Smile

*Allah* declared in the *Quran*… *O you who believe stand out firmly 4 *Allah* as witnesses 2 fair dealings and let not the hatred of others 2 u make u swerve 2 wrong and depart from justice. be just, that is next 2 piety. fear *Allah*, indeed *Allah* is well-acquainted with all that you do*. *al-Ma'idah 5:8* .... Surprised

in another place in the *Quran*, *Allah* asserted, *Allah forbids u not with regard 2 those who fight u not 4 your faith, nor drive u out of ur homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them. 4 *Allah* loves those who r just. *Allah* only forbids u with regard 2 those who fight u 4 ur faith, and drive u out of ur homes and support others in driving u out, from turning 2 them 4 protection “or taking them as wali”. those who seek their protection they r indeed wrong- doers*... *al-Mumtahinah 60:8-9*... Cool

alongside *Allah* has portrayed prophet *Muhammad*....*peace be upon him* as *a mercy* 2 the worlds. he was a sign of *Allah's* mercy 2 all, *Muslims* as well as *non-Muslims*..in his benevolence and impartial treatment he didn’t make any dissimilarity between the *believers* and *non-believers*, and we should pursue that policy.... Very Happy
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[quote="Kamal35"]Somalisiz: Aquí estamos educados para respetar las ideas y religiones de toda clase de gente, sin ninguna exclusión. Deja de justificar la violencia de una puta vez, porque nada justifica la violencia basada en la religión.[/quote]
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Buritto eating mothafucca do you see a mexican any where in this mothafuccin site, if you don't understand what the sister is saying, it should be your clue to step and look for a fuccin bean bag somewhere else!!!!
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"Buritto eating mothafucca do you see a mexican any where in this mothafuccin site, if you don't understand what the sister is saying, it should be your clue to step and look for a fuccin bean bag somewhere else!!!!"


----------->Cldyoubfcked: If your ignorance in life is like your ignorance in Geography, you have a serious problem. Spain is a European country located in the south of Europe and sharing borders with France and Portugal. Also, 14 kms away through the sea from Morocco. Mexica is an North American country located near to the United States of America. Mexico is a hispanic country because its citizen, like Argentinians, Colombians, Venezuelans, Peruans, Uruguayans, Paraguayans, Chileans, Equatorians, etc, speak in Spanish. I never ate a burrito, although I'd love to taste it. I love chilli. Spanish is spoken by more than 600 millions of people, and growing. Spanish is the fastest growing language in the world Wink . The Spanish food is paella, gazpacho, roasted lamb and good red wine. Next time, you can call me paella eater. I love it!.

If somalisiz have the disrespect of answering to me in a language different of that one we all are speaking here, I can do the same with her. It's a matter of attitude. If you hit me, I'll hit you back. Quite simple. Let's leave the sister to find out for herself what I told her. Probably (I don't think so) if she'd followed my advice, it would be nice.

Again: if your knowledgements are like your Geographical knowledgements, you will have serious problems in common life.
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