Dr. Maxamed Aadan Sheekh

[snoop12]

AUN Dr. Maxamed Aadan Sheekh was given his medical degree by the Kacaan government in 1963

error, Kacaan didnt exist at this time but took government 6 years later where during its term it had imprisoned Dr. Maxamed Aadan Sheekh for a period of 8 years if i remember correctly.

[abdalla11]

lool haduu duqii yimid the damage is serious

walle i didn't even know he was MR, because i qouted Guhad and i thought he was OG ( Guhad was praising the guy and we know how he think about your people). It shows how you think if you turn it into qabiil

Did i say that the Gaalkacyo surgeon was the first surgeon in somali? As for the operation it was really sophisticated, she even checked it in Holland and she was good to go.

Don't be biased sxb, you're an old guy. If we had pilots who were flying around in 1950's how in god's name can we have a physician in 1963?

[xoogSADE14]

Snoop

I know when the military tookover control. I was merely making a point.

Abdalla

The simple fact that Guhad ( A man who its safe to say actually hates everything Mareexaan) had nothing negative to say about the marxuum speaks volumes about the legacy and credentials of the good doctor don't you think?

About whether he was the actual first Somali surgeon or not, is besides the point and probably can never be proven or disproven. However, he was the first foreign (European) trained Somali doctor. That my friend is a fact. You should ask your elders.

But then again maybe you would also like to argue about who came up with the written Soomaali language that you so frequently use?

[abdalla11]

abdalla

when you question the mans record of achievement you are in effect insulting his legacy, voltage can say what he wants, it has no bearing on the reality that Dr. Maxamed Aadan Sheekh indeed was the first Modern Physician in Somalia. i do realise people did surgery earlier than 1963 but the gap in skill and quality of the Somali traditional Physicians to the first Modern Somali Physician was big enough to actually give him the title of the first Somali Physician.

and dont call me dhoocil, dhoocilnimo adiga iyo cidaa ayaa lagu yaqaana ee meel naga joog balaayo yahee boodyaha weyn. dagaal baa ka dhex dhacay Majerteen iyo Hawiyo waa hore, Majerteen baa soo carartey ayadoo baryameeso, marka Marexan ka dhifaacay Hawiyaha, raga Hawiyaha oo Rer Abti loo ahaa baa la sii deynaye, ayagaa marka sheegey. "Majerteen boodyaweyn, ma baraar idaad baa, ma baruur bislataa, birta rogan ogaa".

since when did i question the guy? i just stated a true statement: Somalis like to exaggerate! It has nothing to do with him. I already mentioned my admiration for physicians in general!

When you lost the argument you resorted into name calling.
I am proud of my qabiil walle and unlike you i don't make things up to make myself better.

Mareexaan haduu rag yahay muxu Wagardhac u cawin waayay? I don't blame wagardhac for kissing our behinds, ileen walaal kale ma heestaane.

It's funny that out of all people you claim to save us from hawiye, while you admitted that they occupy your lands (plural). So how can someone who's occupied save some else? Why didn't reer caabudwaaq attack dhuuso mareeb and gelinsoor ( which from even millitairy perspective makes more sense)

Teeda kale so ma ogid hawiyahaad sheekesid iyo adiga bo inaan ku gumeesan jiray? War 60 sano ba igu hoosnooleed

Here's your own acknowledgement of your occupied land by hawiye

Cadaado, Dhusamareeb and Gelinsoor is marehan deegaans ? you can add ceelbuur and guriceel aswell to your future fantasy maamul

ina adeer let us not fool ourselves, i will admit you are occupying my deegaans but you need to act as a man and admit your recent migrant to these places, especially Gelinsoor and Dhusamareeb.

the fact is Cadaado has been an extremely diverse place up until recently.


"Qaan Mareexaan waa qaaxo kugu maqan"

Qaan mareexaan waa qaaxo kugu maqan. Goormuu mareexaan aarsandoonaa?
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[Firefly]

Ilahay ha uu naxariisto , ameen! He achieved great things.


Have some shame walaalayaal. Must you guys agree about the qabiil of every Somali marxuum? He represents his country and none of you have ownership over him or his achievements. Dadkiiisa iyo dadkiisa uu wax uu taray and if you lot lover your individual qabiils soo much go and wax uu tara. Go learn and benefit your qabiils instead of bickering here 24/7 like dhoocilo.

[abdalla11]

xoogsade,

you're more reasonable now. It doesn't suit a grown man like you to jump into (clannish) conclusion. I never connected the late doctor with qabiil, i didn't even know his qabiil untill you mentioned it.

As you said, it can never be proven, that's why i said somalis like to exaggerate. The claim that he was the first somali physician in an Italian hospital in Mogadishu is more accurate.

[Voltage]

Kind of embarassing how a tacsi topic went this way. Grandpa's disingenuous wasakhayn didn't help matters, but Abdalla knew exactly where he wanted the topic to go from the beginning. Just because Snoop responded by saying something about you being bitter personally, you started to turn the topic into tribal fadhi ku dirir. The reality is Mohammad Adan Sheikh was a known and well admired man of whom the BBC Somali itself....not anyone on this forum...said was the first Somali surgeon and that he was the chief surgeon at Martini and Digfeer, Somalia's two largest hospitals. You would think that would be enough for you, but I suppose our traditional bush doctors also should lay claim. War isku xishood and I firmly believe your underlying motivation is the man's qabiil no matter how much you protest.

[snoop12]

Teeda kale so ma ogid hawiyahaad sheekesid iyo adiga bo inaan ku gumeesan jiray? War 60 sano ba igu hoosnooleed

what a clown, if you have any respect for this man you would not insult his legacy with ridiculous claims and then turn a tacsi topic dedicated to him into a tribal war again with ridiculous claims like the above one.

im done.

[Voltage]

Snoop you need to learn to analyze people's motivations from the beginning and not give them the ammo to unleash their hungaaco.

[grandpakhalif]

Voltage, my fierce response was warranted but untimely, this guy has been spewing this recycled crap several times now.

[abdalla11]

It all makes sense now that a certain people don't agree with the statement 'somalis like to exaggerate' if it concerns one of their own. i guess BBC somali isn't written by Somalis?Who make out of ten men a thousand men?

Snoop dissed my region, i showed him the sad reality of his. I never start dissing people but i sure as hell retaliate

LOL@ bush doctors, we somalis don't have 'medicine men' like other african countries alxamdulilaah. I haven't seen any bush doctor who could perform a sophisticated operation, that didn't need to be corrected in Holland. Teeda kale, what made you sure that guy i was talking about didn't posses amedical license? Did i say he used to operate before the marxuum?No, i didn't, but since you guys are biased you thought i was attacking your fellow marehaan. FYI, we had capable physicians way before the sixties, we used sent our physicians to neighbouring countries, especially Egypt and Ethiopia, where they till to day have outstanding surgeons.

I let you guys live in your bubble to think that we had pilots flying in the air before we even had a physician, one of the oldest professions, in our midst

[Voltage]

Voltage, my fierce response was warranted but untimely, this guy has been spewing this recycled crap several times now.

You are very immature and a loose cannon. The topic is about a tacsi for a well admired man. Someone steers the topic from what it is to "PS: You as a Sade from Mudug shouldn't even bother dissing Puntland, even your own brothers beg us for more seats. dad kaa sareeya waliga afka haku taagin".....if you had any intelligence you would see the provocation for what it is and noticing the reality, you would have shook your head at the bitterness and tribal motivations of the individual instead of responding like a bumbling fool helping desecrate a tacsi page

[Voltage]

Snoop dissed my region, i showed him the sad reality of his. I never start dissing people but i sure as hell retaliate

Snoop didn't dis your region. He used it as an example of our collective failure in the modern era and only did it because he was speaking to you. To paraphase Snoop; "the embarrassing thing is today we are several decades behind, PL has Ukrainian pilots in year 2010 with not one Somali pilot in a time of cheap and abundant education THAT is embarrassing !!"

LOL@ bush doctors, we somalis don't have 'medicine men' like other african countries alxamdulilaah. I haven't seen any bush doctor who could perform a sophisticated operation, that didn't need to be corrected in Holland.

What do you know about Somalia? You make a ridiculous statement like above and you wish to contest what an objective premier Somali media has to say about history? Somalia has many "medicine men", some of who even use sixir and faal. "Mingis" tumasho is traditional "medicine men". The idea of Yibir cursing your baby if you don't pay him before birth is "traditional medicine men". In fact, traditional "medicine men" culture is so prominent in our nomadic lifestyle that one of the most used Somali saying is "nin buko boqol u tali", a sick man has hundred doctors. I firmly believe you were taking about a bush doctor. One of the most famous "doctors" in central Somalia was Dr Cali Kanini who once fixed my grandpa's broken arm. I once asked where Dr Cali Kanini get his qualifications and the reply was, he never did.

My last comment on your attempt to desecrate a tacsi topic.

[abdalla11]

Teeda kale so ma ogid hawiyahaad sheekesid iyo adiga bo inaan ku gumeesan jiray? War 60 sano ba igu hoosnooleed

what a clown, if you have any respect for this man you would not insult his legacy with ridiculous claims and then turn a tacsi topic dedicated to him into a tribal war again with ridiculous claims like the above one.

im done.

I stated the obvious 'Somalis like to exaggerate' and that is an attack to a man who practices one of the professions i trully admire and look up to?

You started dissing regions, i gave you your own medicine. Stop playing the victim.
There's nothing false about my statement. Keenadiid ruled from burtinle to benaadir, from hobyo to wardheer. If your people reside between those places, they were under his rule. If they didn't inhabit between those cities, then they didn't fall under his rule.

Snoop you need to learn to analyze people's motivations from the beginning and not give them the ammo to unleash their hungaaco.

lol because you were clan motivated doesn't mean everybody is. I thought you would agree with me that we as somalis like to exaggerate. If my memory is correct you once started a topic about how somalis make things bigger than they are. I will look that topic up

Because of clan loyalty you even went as far as claiming that we were flying in the world before we even had one of the oldest professions in the world

[grandpakhalif]

I apologise for my partial desecration of this topic but that doesn't give you a right to call an individual a loose cannon. It seems you hold your own opinion high above others and enjoy patronizing people. You could of conveyed your message in a respectable fashion.